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The XFL may be making a comeback

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25 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

  Maybe have two gorillas available for use.  

 

This is absurd, there's already a dire shortage of NFL calibre gorillas as it is. Maybe one gorilla and one baboon, or maybe add a non-primate like a grizzly bear to really be unique.

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13 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Not really a different sport, but I get what you mean - and it touches on something important - 

 

People see these leagues as low-level football, stocked with talent that's lower than most D1 NCAA teams.  

 

What if you changed the sport?  For example, play 9 on 9 or something.  Get rid of a lineman or two, or make some other change.  You'd instantly raise the talent level, since there would be fewer players, you'd make it different enough to be intriguing and get a few people to watch just to see what it's like, you'd give players more opportunities since there may be only one WR on the field at any given time, so you'd build stars, etc.  

 

Not saying taking people off the field is the right way to change it enough, but something like that could actually give a league a better chance to work.  

 

Maybe have two gorillas available for use.  

 

I've thought for the last few years about this...on a US sized field, remove the two lineman and implement some of the CFL rules like the waggle, rouge, no fair catches, shorter play clock, etc. to make for a faster tempo game.

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No fare catches is irresponsible. 

 

I haven’t heard waggle since I played HS back in the 90s. It needs to come back. 

 

Maybe no clock stoppages for incomplete passes - you need to run your ass back to the huddle for the next play. Also fewer substitutions. 

 

Maybe lose one lineman and one skill player, so you can use any combo as long as there’s 4 minimum at the line of scrimmage. So you’d almost always have a tight end on the line. 

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So if the XFL is on a major network, do they need to use that network's rules analyst?

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47 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

No fare catches is irresponsible. 

 

I haven’t heard waggle since I played HS back in the 90s. It needs to come back. 

 

Maybe no clock stoppages for incomplete passes - you need to run your ass back to the huddle for the next play. Also fewer substitutions. 

 

Maybe lose one lineman and one skill player, so you can use any combo as long as there’s 4 minimum at the line of scrimmage. So you’d almost always have a tight end on the line. 

They had this rule in 2001 but expanded the catch halo to a 5 yard cushion that forced defenders to slow up on their angles. It didn't seem to really give too much advantage though. And when people saw they couldn't just light up the punt returner they were turned off. 

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4 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

No fare catches is irresponsible. 

 

Not really, you rarely, if ever, see a returner in the CFL get his clock cleaned with the 5-yard halo.

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I’m surprised New Orleans didn’t get a team. 

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6 hours ago, Chawls said:

I’m surprised New Orleans didn’t get a team. 

Other than the stadium on Tulane's campus there isn't a stadium that makes too much sense for them. The Superdome would look pretty empty with under 30,000 people.

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Dallas XFL just announced....and nobody in DFW will care.  The local media will either laugh at this announcement or ignore it. 

 

 

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Most of these cities are disappointing choices, with the exception of St. Louis. Extremely expected. But, I guess in Vince's case, you go where the money is.

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My issue with the XFL in Dallas is that.....if Dallas is such a great alternative football league market as the XFL has said, why hasn't their ever been a Dallas team in any of those leagues?  Why was there no Dallas WFL team?  Or even a Dallas team in the USFL?  Houston had a team in both leagues, but not Dallas.  Another issue I have is that there is no way that XFL Dallas will have any media coverage or if they do, they will be treated like a joke.  FC Dallas has been around since 1995 and they hardly get any media coverage at all, otherwise, they would have gotten the same type of coverage as the Rangers, Mavericks and Stars but they don't.  XFL Dallas will be lucky if they get the same coverage as FC Dallas. 

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So basically, Dallas's XFL team will be the first to fold or relocate should they actually play?

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22 minutes ago, neo_prankster said:

So basically, Dallas's XFL team will be the first to fold or relocate should they actually play?

 

Probably fold when the league folds.  They will be lucky to get 30 seconds of screen time in the local media.  When the Cowboys are not playing, the local media sports wise is focused on Rangers, Stars and Mavericks with College Basketball and high school sports.  They will cover the WNBA's Dallas Wings sometimes but only on a slow day.

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Also, with the XFL focusing on NFL cities, I wouldn't be surprised if those markets stuck with the NFL as far as media coverage goes.

 

Vinnie Mac...I dunno what to tell you, bub.

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50 minutes ago, neo_prankster said:

Also, with the XFL focusing on NFL cities, I wouldn't be surprised if those markets stuck with the NFL as far as media coverage goes.

 

Vinnie Mac...I dunno what to tell you, bub.

 

I wonder how Vinnie is going to react when the league fails again. 

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41 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

I wonder how Vinnie is going to react when the league fails again. 

 

Kinda want to see Vinnie throw a fit when XFL players start expressing themselves...you know, like normal people.

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1 hour ago, neo_prankster said:

Also, with the XFL focusing on NFL cities, I wouldn't be surprised if those markets stuck with the NFL as far as media coverage goes.

 

Vinnie Mac...I dunno what to tell you, bub.

 

Just a thought to consider, just to play devil's advocate, isn't that the point?

 

I mean the XFL season starts the week after the Super Bowl and they mentioned a number of times in the press conference that their research says people still want football after the Super Bowl (I'd like to see how they came to that but I digress).

 

Based on that logic; wouldn't it make sense to go to markets who clearly will support the sport? 

 

 

**disclaimer before I get a bunch of responses saying "you idiot". I'm not saying this is MY logic, I'm saying this is the XFL's logic.

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44 minutes ago, neo_prankster said:
1 hour ago, GDAWG said:

 

I wonder how Vinnie is going to react when the league fails again. 

 

Weird formatting here, but I'm trying to reply to GDAWG.

 

Vince has entered only fail upwards territory. He'll be fine.

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41 minutes ago, mr.negative15 said:

 

Just a thought to consider, just to play devil's advocate, isn't that the point?

 

I mean the XFL season starts the week after the Super Bowl and they mentioned a number of times in the press conference that their research says people still want football after the Super Bowl (I'd like to see how they came to that but I digress).

 

Based on that logic; wouldn't it make sense to go to markets who clearly will support the sport? 

 

 

**disclaimer before I get a bunch of responses saying "you idiot". I'm not saying this is MY logic, I'm saying this is the XFL's logic.

This has been the justification used for just about every spring football league ever formed, yet I've never seen an iota of data to back it up.

 

Personally, I'm relieved when football is over after the Super Bowl. I look forward to the break from it. 

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6 minutes ago, gosioux76 said:

This has been the justification used for just about every spring football league ever formed, yet I've never seen an iota of data to back it up.

 

Personally, I'm relieved when football is over after the Super Bowl. I look forward to the break from it. 

A fair point, but those leagues tend to to go cities that the NFL isn't in.

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