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38 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

So was the AAF attendance in Arizona, Orlando, and Birmingham when they had over six months to sell tickets.  Orlando had damn near ten months as they were announced first in April.

 

Arena football has also been around since the late 80s and peaked 15 years ago. This league is just starting up and while attendance is bad now, I'll wait until the next few weeks before I can say anything (hell, could get worse). In the case of Orlando, Arizona and Birmingham, it'll probably increase as they keep winning. 

 

Atlanta looks like its going to be a total disaster IMO. You have the lowest capacity (which is smart except for the next point), most expensive tickets on average and a team that looks like it's going to be awful in a city with a lot to do. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

 

Arena football has also been around since the late 80s and peaked 15 years ago. This league is just starting up and while attendance is bad now, I'll wait until the next few weeks before I can say anything (hell, could get worse). In the case of Orlando, Arizona and Birmingham, it'll probably increase as they keep winning. 

 

Atlanta looks like its going to be a total disaster IMO. You have the lowest capacity (which is smart except for the next point), most expensive tickets on average and a team that looks like it's going to be awful in a city with a lot to do. 

 

The Legends are also up against a playoff team in the Braves as well as an Atlanta United team who led MLS in attendance in its two previous seasons and is the defending champion.

 

Regardless, AAF chose their cities and did a piss-poor job in selling tickets partly due to their delayed rollout in naming cities months after others and not having staff inside the city until September. 

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I consider the Arizona attendance horrible only. The others were fine. Birmingham and Orlando pretty good despite being defunct league graveyards. They both have the right to be skeptical at this point. If both keep winning we should see a good spike in attendance. I certainly expect to see  more fannies in the seats in Birmingham this coming week end.   Orlando and Arizona are on the road this weekend. Memphis is another graveyard defunct league town. It’ll be interesting to see how much they draw. 

 

Atlanta was sure an odd choice. With all the turmoil surrounding them plus so much to do there 5,000 could be considered miraculous. There has to be better cities down south to draw to other than Atlanta.  Very strange choice 

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I think that attendance for Memphis is going to look pretty good, but it’s probably a bit inflated. I have a cousin who works for FedEx and the league have them a HUGE group of tickets for their employees. 

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45 minutes ago, mkg74 said:

I consider the Arizona attendance horrible only. The others were fine. Birmingham and Orlando pretty good despite being defunct league graveyards. They both have the right to be skeptical at this point. If both keep winning we should see a good spike in attendance. I certainly expect to see  more fannies in the seats in Birmingham this coming week end.   Orlando and Arizona are on the road this weekend. Memphis is another graveyard defunct league town. It’ll be interesting to see how much they draw. 

 

Atlanta was sure an odd choice. With all the turmoil surrounding them plus so much to do there 5,000 could be considered miraculous. There has to be better cities down south to draw to other than Atlanta.  Very strange choice 

 

Atlanta was a strange choice indeed.  They already have one underachieving pro football team, so do they really need another one?

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43 minutes ago, mkg74 said:

Atlanta was sure an odd choice. With all the turmoil surrounding them plus so much to do there 5,000 could be considered miraculous. There has to be better cities down south to draw to other than Atlanta.  Very strange choice 

 

Honestly the only southern city that came to mind was Little Rock, Arkansas. Perhaps? 😕

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1 hour ago, Bucfan56 said:

I think that attendance for Memphis is going to look pretty good, but it’s probably a bit inflated. I have a cousin who works for FedEx and the league have them a HUGE group of tickets for their employees. 

I would consider 20,000 or above good. My realistic expectation is 10,000-15,000 for the fact that this team looked :censored:ty and lifeless vs the Iron plus the skeptisism. Memphis is the ultimate gridiron graveyard city plus the fact that they were spurned not only once but twice by the NFL....

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3 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

 

Honestly the only southern city that came to mind was Little Rock, Arkansas. Perhaps? 😕

That wouldn't be a bad choice tbh. The stadium there is the right capacity for something like this. No pro teams at all in Arkansas and a regional rivalry with Memphis. Shreveport would work too considering that the Pirates of the CFL had great attendance even with the mess that organization was. 

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7 hours ago, Discrimihater said:

Since the Rattlers got mentioned, I'm also wondering if the Apollos will be affected attendancewise by the revival of the Predators?

I doubt it, because the only thing that’s had less marketing and TV time on the local channels than the Apollos is the New Predators. I’m sure most people in the city don’t even know that they’re coming back in the first place.

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So the AAF is now announcing that their teams are now “affiliated” with NFL clubs. 

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Packers-Salt-Lake-Stallions-AAF-affiliate--128978123/

 

At first I thought this meant the NFL had a formal arrangement with the AAF, so lights out XFL.  But it seems the league was a little misleading with its press release. 

 

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Last Thursday, the Alliance of American Football announced its affiliations with the college and NFL teams across the country and the Packers are an official affiliate of the Salt Lake Stallions. This is all part of the AFF Player Allocation Program to determine which AAF team a player can sign with. 

 

The first phase of the allocation process is a player will be signed to an AAF team based on where they went to college. The Packers and the rest of the NFL teams fall in the second phase which is if a player's college does not align with an affiliated college, they will be assigned to a team based on their last NFL or CFL franchise. And the third phase is for a player who is not with an affiliated college and did not play in the NFL or CFL. Any AFF team can sign that player. 

 

It’s about arbitrarily assigning player rights.  Not in any way meaning cooperation with the NFL teams, though it implies exactly that. 

 

Not a good look, AAF. 

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5 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

So the AAF has announced that their teams are now “affiliated” with NFL clubs. 

 

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Packers-Salt-Lake-Stallions-AAF-affiliate--128978123/

 

At first I thought this meant the NFL had a formal arrangement with the AAF, so lights out XFL.  But it seems the league was a little misleading with its press release. 

 

 

 

It’s about arbitrarily assigning player rights.  Not in any way meaning cooperation with the NFL teams, though it implies exactly that. 

 

Not a good look, AAF. 

This isn't new, it is just restated as the league was closer to starting. As the release states, the same affiliation works on the other end with college teams and how players are generally assigned.

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9 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

 

Honestly the only southern city that came to mind was Little Rock, Arkansas. Perhaps? 😕

A few weeks ago, I did some research because I wanted to know the towns that had stadiums with suitable capacity, and would be different from other spring leagues. So that would eliminate:

 

XFL - St. Louis (Seriously, the other 7 all have NFL teams)

Freedom Football League - Oakland, Portland, Connecticut, and OKC(which other than the AAA park, I have no idea where they'd play)

American Patriot League - Daytona, Mobile, Sacramento, Shreveport, Canton

 

The markets I found with stadiums and no pro football teams as tenants are:

Little Rock, Jackson, El Paso, Ft. Worth, Louisville, Richmond, Norfolk, Albuquerque, Boise, Omaha, Raleigh, Austin, Boise

 

Now, I don't imagine this league expands any time soon. Watering down your player pool while other leagues pop up seems like an awful idea. It is a fun thinking activity though. I'd venture to say the AAF has the strongest group of cities.

 

I think it's too early to judge the attendances the other day. After lighting up the scoreboard Sunday, I've seen so many people say the Hotshots could beat the Cardinals. It's not true, but that momentum of competent football is a good thing. If they can crush Memphis and beat Salt Lake again in Utah, I'd expect a much larger crowd to turn up at Sun Devil Stadium. The league more than doubled the amount of twitter followers over the last weekend to where I think people are actually going to make plans to go to games. Just my 2 cents!

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1 hour ago, raysox said:

A few weeks ago, I did some research because I wanted to know the towns that had stadiums with suitable capacity, and would be different from other spring leagues. So that would eliminate:

 

XFL - St. Louis (Seriously, the other 7 all have NFL teams)

Freedom Football League - Oakland, Portland, Connecticut, and OKC(which other than the AAA park, I have no idea where they'd play)

American Patriot League - Daytona, Mobile, Sacramento, Shreveport, Canton

 

The markets I found with stadiums and no pro football teams as tenants are:

Little Rock, Jackson, El Paso, Ft. Worth, Louisville, Richmond, Norfolk, Albuquerque, Boise, Omaha, Raleigh, Austin, Boise

 

Now, I don't imagine this league expands any time soon. Watering down your player pool while other leagues pop up seems like an awful idea. It is a fun thinking activity though. I'd venture to say the AAF has the strongest group of cities.

 

I think it's too early to judge the attendances the other day. After lighting up the scoreboard Sunday, I've seen so many people say the Hotshots could beat the Cardinals. It's not true, but that momentum of competent football is a good thing. If they can crush Memphis and beat Salt Lake again in Utah, I'd expect a much larger crowd to turn up at Sun Devil Stadium. The league more than doubled the amount of twitter followers over the last weekend to where I think people are actually going to make plans to go to games. Just my 2 cents!

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Well, they cannot count on ASU students for either of their next two home games since they are when ASU is on Spring Break*.

March 3 vs. Atlanta

March 10 vs. San Antonio.

 

*I'm not going to go over when the school districts have break since Maricopa County has 58 school districts.  WTF?

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2 hours ago, raysox said:

A few weeks ago, I did some research because I wanted to know the towns that had stadiums with suitable capacity, and would be different from other spring leagues. So that would eliminate:

 

XFL - St. Louis (Seriously, the other 7 all have NFL teams)

Freedom Football League - Oakland, Portland, Connecticut, and OKC(which other than the AAA park, I have no idea where they'd play)

American Patriot League - Daytona, Mobile, Sacramento, Shreveport, Canton

 

The markets I found with stadiums and no pro football teams as tenants are:

Little Rock, Jackson, El Paso, Ft. Worth, Louisville, Richmond, Norfolk, Albuquerque, Boise, Omaha, Raleigh, Austin, Boise

 

Now, I don't imagine this league expands any time soon. Watering down your player pool while other leagues pop up seems like an awful idea. It is a fun thinking activity though. I'd venture to say the AAF has the strongest group of cities.

 

I think it's too early to judge the attendances the other day. After lighting up the scoreboard Sunday, I've seen so many people say the Hotshots could beat the Cardinals. It's not true, but that momentum of competent football is a good thing. If they can crush Memphis and beat Salt Lake again in Utah, I'd expect a much larger crowd to turn up at Sun Devil Stadium. The league more than doubled the amount of twitter followers over the last weekend to where I think people are actually going to make plans to go to games. Just my 2 cents!

 

Fort Worth is part of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.  The pro football team they consider their own are the Dallas Cowboys.  We already have the Cowboys and Dallas XFL in Arlington, we don't need a 3rd pro football team in an already oversaturated sports market.  Take for example the WNBA's Dallas Wings.  They got no coverage for hiring Brian Agler as coach, instead the local TV stations focused for sports The Rangers, Mavericks, Stars and Cowboys, all of whom were in the news the same day the Wings hired their coach. 

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