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1 hour ago, rams80 said:

 

Because they weren't.  They just ran into a Warriors team that got hot at the right time and was led by a coach who rather intimately knew all of the failings and vulnerabilities of the Mavs roster.

Yes, just because you lose doesn’t mean 4 games do’s this mean your a bad team, just a little bit unlucky

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That Warriors team was also a matchup nightmare for Dallas, and that was well known at the time too. That's easily the least shocking 1/8 upset I've seen in the NBA. 

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3 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

For all you idiots that praise Colangelo while disparaging Hinkie, at least Hinkie knew that tanking only worked in the regular season. 

 

#idiots #TrustTheProcess

 

Nope...You don't get to do praise the moves you think your terrible GM would have made but didn't. Colangelo built a bench for the Sixers that got them into the second round. Hinkie never would have done that.

 

Somehow, Sixers fans are blind to the fact that the Celtics pick in the top three each year and they didn't have to nuke four seasons to get there. And the Celtics, when healthy, are closer to a championship than Philadelphia.

 

3 hours ago, Kramerica Industries said:

I'm not trying to be a flippant jerk when I say this, but this Cavs/Raptors series is yet another exhibit as far as I'm concerned about how completely useless the NBA regular season is. I don't have time to watch too much basketball these days as it is, but I know plenty of people who do and talk about it, and obviously the threads here that I read even if I generally don't post in them, but all the talk about the Cavs being in crisis mode and such and, legitimate as it may have been at the time, I've pretty much been of the train of thought of "yada yada yada I'm expecting them to be in the Finals until someone beats them first". Being a #4 seed, the seasons Toronto and Boston have had, meh, whatever. We've seen this story so many times before. 

 

And here we are; Cavs being on the road the first two games? Doesn't matter. I think the last two times they've been on the road to begin an Eastern series, they've won the first two anyway, and they did so again. So we can now confidently brush aside whatever Raptors hype that people were trying to peddle. Probably will say the same about the Celtics or Sixers in a couple weeks time as well.

 

The only regular season that really matters is football. But also, sports don't matter and you can't separate the need for their to be a television and in-arena product from the competitive aspect of any sports. Bad teams have to exist; so do random games in February. And, if it comes to Golden State/Houston in the WCF, you don't think GS would prefer to have home court?

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17 hours ago, the admiral said:

This is how people talked about Mad Men or the solar eclipse. I think I like it better when sports are sports. I'm better at watching them I am at beholding them.

 

You don't have to behold it. It's just silly to be watching something that's obviously great and finding reasons to not enjoy it (I know Bayless is doing a bit. Sabresrule is just a grump)

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13 hours ago, SabresRule7361 said:

CLE/GSW AGAIN has no upside. None.

Ah yes, why would anyone want to watch the best basketball player ever against the most talented NBA team ever assembled?

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13 hours ago, Lee Noire said:

I mean they kinda are. The only reason they are where they are is because LeBron is a walking cheat code. I can’t even give Love credit because he just started to show up.

 

Its not as bad as his first finals team, but they aren’t beating the Warriors no matter how great LeBron is.

I mean, the double combo of Indiana being an awful matchup for Love and that whole torn thumb ligament thing might have a bit to do with why he's struggled this postseason.

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11 hours ago, SabresRule7361 said:

If LeBron James is the greatest player of this generation, then this might be a watered down generation of basketball.

 

You realize, when its all said and done, this is a generation will produce the best shooter of all time (Curry), the best pure scorer of all time (KD), and the best ball handler/below the rim finisher of all time (Kyrie), and the best all around player of all time (LBJ), right?

 

And that doesn't even include guys like Anthony Davis, Harden, Khawi, or Embiid...

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1 hour ago, CLEstones said:

 

You realize, when its all said and done, this is a generation will produce the best shooter of all time (Curry), the best pure scorer of all time (KD), and the best ball handler/below the rim finisher of all time (Kyrie), and the best all around player of all time (LBJ), right?

 

And that doesn't even include guys like Anthony Davis, Harden, Khawi, or Embiid...

Yeah, this era is just fine. LeBron might not be Jordan but he has just as much, if not more, star power to compete with.  Plus, in the era of superteams, what he's done since his superteam ended has been all that much more impressive.  He's probably going to retire with three titles,* which in the eyes of some will contribute to the point of the "best player of the era" being a bit "watered down" but in his Cleveland years, he's overcome some rough circumstances (namely, playing in Cleveland).

 

*Unless he super-teams it up again, which will cause his titles to be tainted in the eyes of the LeBron-hating community anyway. 

 

For those old enough to remember Jordan's prime, nothing will probably ever touch that star power, anyway.  But this is a pretty good era for stars overall.

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3 hours ago, crashcarson15 said:

Ah yes, why would anyone want to watch the best basketball player ever against the most talented NBA team ever assembled?

 

Because we’ve already seen it.

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2 hours ago, SabresRule7361 said:

 

Because we’ve already seen it.

 

For someone so in search fresh new experiences, you spend a lot of time saying the 5 things on an internet message board.

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20 hours ago, DG_Now said:

 

The funny thing is that put the healthy Kyrie of 17/18 on this team, a give-a-damn TT, and they all of a sudden turn into a threat.

Yeah, things will always look brighter when you have three walking double doubles at worse.

 

20 hours ago, SabresRule7361 said:

 

I don't think anyone from the East beats them, but at the very least, I want to see the Warriors get a different dance partner.

 

Like, GSW vs. BOS/TOR/PHI is refreshingly DIFFERENT.

 

CLE/GSW AGAIN has no upside. None.

I’d say it has plenty of upside. You’ll get the people that love the matchup/players, and you’ll get the viewers that hate watch to see LeBron or a particular Warrior lose.

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7 hours ago, crashcarson15 said:

I mean, the double combo of Indiana being an awful matchup for Love and that whole torn thumb ligament thing might have a bit to do with why he's struggled this postseason.

Would you give LeBron that same courtesy had he played poorly? Say he had an injured toe and wasn’t going to the rim would you give him a pass?

 

I’d bet most people wouldn’t because of who he is. If Kevin Love is supposed to be a Star then he has to show up. I’m not saying guys can’t be hurt, but if you can’t go don’t get on the court. Not in the playoffs.

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8 hours ago, CLEstones said:

 

You realize, when its all said and done, this is a generation will produce the best shooter of all time (Curry), the best pure scorer of all time (KD), and the best ball handler/below the rim finisher of all time (Kyrie), and the best all around player of all time (LBJ), right?

 

And that doesn't even include guys like Anthony Davis, Harden, Khawi, or Embiid...

 

To be fair, the NBA's defense rules have been completely gutted in favor of offense. I doubt any of these guys would have the same stats in the 80s or 90s (That's not to take away from any of these guys, they'd all still be stars in other eras).

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Lafarge said:

 

To be fair, the NBA's defense rules have been completely gutted in favor of offense. I doubt any of these guys would have the same stats in the 80s or 90s (That's not to take away from any of these guys, they'd all still be stars in other eras).

80's and 90's defenders wouldn't check Curry and Co. from 30 feet and beyond as they'd still be worried about the post player.  Can't hand check them as they're catch and shoot most of the time, especially guys like Klay, who is underrated.

Edited by dfwabel

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20 hours ago, SabresRule7361 said:

If LeBron James is the greatest player of this generation, then this might be a watered down generation of basketball.

Or, maybe - and hear me out on this - LeBron's just a really good basketball player.

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1 hour ago, dfwabel said:

80's and 90's defenders wouldn't check Curry and Co. from 30 feet and beyond as they'd still be worried about the post player.  Can't hand check them as they're catch and shoot most of the time, especially guys like Klay, who is underrated.

 

That's true. I even thought about that while typing but just sort of left it out.

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4 hours ago, Lafarge said:

 

To be fair, the NBA's defense rules have been completely gutted in favor of offense. I doubt any of these guys would have the same stats in the 80s or 90s (That's not to take away from any of these guys, they'd all still be stars in other eras).

 

Uh, no they haven't.  The rule changed that allowed teams to play zone defense made it easier to defend star players.  In the 80's and 90's, pretty much everything teams do to defend players like LeBron in today's NBA was illegal.

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Pels came out aggressive and got a big Game 3 win. Rondo with a career-high 21 assists. They had better offer him a nice contract this summer because he's been absolutely solid for them all year long.

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15 minutes ago, Tracy Jordan said:

Pels came out aggressive and got a big Game 3 win. Rondo with a career-high 21 assists. They had better offer him a nice contract this summer because he's been absolutely solid for them all year long.

But he's moody Rondo now at age 32.

Plus Boogie is unrestricted.

I love him, but he will easily backstab a coach faster than he beats a foster kid in Connect 4.

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Posted (edited)

Nice job, Jazz.

 

When Harden hit the 3 from the mid-H in "UTAH", it was over.

 

Getting beat by 28 after 3.

Rockets didn't care, they were shooting the 3.

 

Mitchell is very inefficient. Westbrook has been inefficient because he must be. Mitchell is because Snyder had no other real option for 2017-18.

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