2018 NBA Post Season

[FiddySicks]

NBA fans are funny, man. They take the few good aspects of the game and instead of celebrating them, they blame them for the failures of everyone else ?

[IceCap]

4 hours ago, ozzyman314 said:

Even without CP3, as long as they don't have a night where they forget how to shoot (like the Celtics did) they sweep easily.

This Cavs team is as bad if not worse than 07, and needed a massive choke job by an overachieving Celtics team just to eek out a win. 

You mean the Celtics team you kept going on about winning the East since last year’s playoffs? 

And now they’re “overachieving.” 

 

LOL ok. 

 

2 hours ago, ozzyman314 said:

This is another perfect example of them losing far more than the other team won it. 

Homers are annoying and Boston homers are the worst. 

 

1 hour ago, ozzyman314 said:

It’s not even Celtics losing that irks me. It’s all the :censored:ing Lebron slurpers like Skip Bayless and so acting like it’s some major accomplishment. 

He had an average game (by his standards) needed 7 games and an all time choking effort by Celtics to make The Finals again. 

Not exactly a good look for him. 

Yeah you’re right. All he did was lead his team to victory against a superior squad and earn his eighth straight Finals appearance. What a schmuck. 

 

 

[ozzyman314]

11 minutes ago, McCarthy said:

You said "not exactly a good look for him" after he won the conference championship (his 8th straight) with a group that has no business being in the finals apart from him. HOW THE IS THAT NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR HIM? It's a bad look for him that the Celtics missed a bunch of shots? That's so :censored:ing stupid. That's a bad look for the Celtics there, cheech. 

 

He had to face NBA teams with NBA players and did something no other NBA player has ever done. If it was easy it would've happened before. 

If he basically swept his way to The Finals like last year with this roster that’d Be impressive 

but it even then a majority of people had The Cavs in The Finals even with this :censored:ty team.

 

 

It’s basically like putting Peyton Manning on an Arena Football League and bragging about him making 8 straight championships. 

And if MJ hadn’t decided to play baseball he 100% would have done it first. With actual Competition too. 

31 minutes ago, McCarthy said:

 

Maybe, but he's not in the west, he's in the East and A. it's not his fault the rest of the East can't ever get their together, 2. He's smart enough to choose to be in the East, and iii. could be that his dominance is why nobody else in the East can win the conference.

If he was truly as dominant he wouldn’t have a 3-6 record in The Finals. 

I mean, it certainly seems odd that he looks so dominant against “strong” east teams, but as soon as he faces a strong West team he falters. 

I’m sorry I don’t think he deserves credit for taking advantage of a weak conference. 

 

If he goes out West to The Kings or Suns and makes The Finals with them, I’ll take everything back. 

[DG_ThenNowForever]

9 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

And if MJ hadn’t decided to play baseball he 100% would have done it first. With actual Competition too.

 

MJ got rocked by the Magic in 1995.

 

 

[ozzyman314]

 

19 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:

You mean the Celtics team you kept going on about winning the East since last year’s playoffs? 

And now they’re “overachieving.” 

 

LOL ok. 

You mean when everyone laughed at me for saying The Celtics were going to be the next dominant team in The East and you all thought they were “5-10 years away”. 

Tell me what happens if Hayward and/or Kyrie didn’t get hurt this year? 

And remind me again, how many people had the Celtics making the ECF after Kyrie went down and they had to rely on a bunch of inexperienced players & rookies in the playoffs? 

23 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:

Homers are annoying and Boston homers are the worst. 

 

No “homering” about it. That game was 2 teams playing like absolute dog :censored: and only winning because the other played even worse. That wasn’t a good game by either side.

 

25 minutes ago, Ice_Cap said:

Yeah you’re right. All he did was lead his team to victory against a superior squad and earn his eighth straight Finals appearance. What a schmuck. 

It not like that team choked on their own :censored: and only hit like 13% of their FG. That was basically the difference. 

If he dropped 40+ points and won by 30 that’d be a different story. 

[truepg]

1 hour ago, ozzyman314 said:

He had an average game (by his standards) needed 7 games and an all time choking effort by Celtics to make The Finals again. 

Not exactly a good look for him. 

 

19 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

If he basically swept his way to The Finals like last year with this roster that’d Be impressive 

but it even then a majority of people had The Cavs in The Finals even with this :censored:ty team.

 

If he was truly as dominant he wouldn’t have a 3-6 record in The Finals. 

I mean, it certainly seems odd that he looks so dominant against “strong” east teams, but as soon as he faces a strong West team he falters. 

I’m sorry I don’t think he deserves credit for taking advantage of a weak conference. 

 

If he goes out West to The Kings or Suns and makes The Finals with them, I’ll take everything back. 

 

See, if he had beaten the Celtics in, let's say, 4-5 games, it would have been an even worse look for him in your eyes. It turns out, he got some legitimate competition for the Finals appearance.

 

In your argument against him being dominant, you somehow overlook the fact that he has made it to the Finals 9 times, 8 of them straight.

 

He hasn't faced simply a "strong West team", he has faced most probably the strongest team of all time, beating them to the championship the season they had an all-time best record. And the Spurs, playing some unbelievable team basketball.

 

I mean, whichever way you put it, you will always see it as his disadvantage. We already got that.

 

35 & 15 & 9 an "average" game by his standards? For as easy as you make him have it, you do keep him in rather stratospherically high regard.

[ozzyman314]

14 minutes ago, truepg said:

 

 

See, if he had beaten the Celtics in, let's say, 4-5 games, it would have been an even worse look for him in your eyes. It turns out, he got some legitimate competition for the Finals appearance.

 

In your argument against him being dominant, you somehow overlook the fact that he has made it to the Finals 9 times, 8 of them straight.

 

He hasn't faced simply a "strong West team", he has faced most probably the strongest team of all time, beating them to the championship the season they had an all-time best record. And the Spurs, playing some unbelievable team basketball.

 

I mean, whichever way you put it, you will always see it as his disadvantage. We already got that.

 

35 & 15 & 9 an "average" game by his standards? For as easy as you make him have it, you do keep him in rather stratospherically high regard.

That’s simply untrue, As i’ve already said, put him on The Suns or Kings and if he makes The Finals with them I’d give him all the credit in the world. 

 

If he had had the same dominant performance in the playoffs with this team as last year, again i’d Give him credit for that. 

 

If This Celtics team had Kyrie and/or Hayward, I’d also laude at how great he is for beating them. 

 

My point is when you take a step back and actually look, those accomplishments like “8 straight Finals” are a bit deceiving. 

How good were the teams he beat, really? His toughest challenge in a while was a Celtics team that lost it’s two best players.

 

That kind of says it right there. 

[SFGiants58]

Ozzyman:

 

Spoilers: You can’t dig yourself out.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

At the minimum, 8 straight finals equals 128 additional games. That means he's played nearly 10 seasons when many players played eight. It's really amazing.

 

I'm sorry some salty Boston Celtics fans lack perspective. But really, no one does this in the modern era. There's regular greatness, and then there's greatest of all time greatness. That's what's happening here.

[Crabcake]

2 hours ago, Digby said:

I don't understand why it has to be zero-sum. On the one hand yes, the Celtics choked away game 7 and were down two all-stars, and the Raptors completely embarrassed themselves. On the other hand LeBron willed THAT roster, which has only been a thing for two months besides, to the finals. These are not mutually exclusive! Good luck does not take away from all-time talent! Everybody needs a bit of both!

THANK YOU ?

[IceCap]

38 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

How good were the teams he beat, really? His toughest challenge in a while was a Celtics team that lost it’s two best players.

Do you even read what you write before you hit “Submit Reply”?

 

LeBron James led a Cleveland Cavaliers team down 3-1 to the single greatest team of all time to a NBA Championship. 

 

So get out of here with this weak “how good were the teams he beat, really?” bs. 

[ozzyman314]

20 minutes ago, Kaz said:

Why does he need to carry those two bum-ass teams to prove anything?

 

The East became putrid once Kyrie went down because it essentially boiled down to Lebron vs the Washington Craptors; the Celtics stepping up during the playoffs did make things interesting though.  That being said, it doesn't take away how tough it is to make 8 straight finals, especially when you are able to make bums like Jeff Green, Larry Nance Jr, and Tristan Kardashian look amazing in the process.

The West if :censored:ing stacked compared to The East, if he can carry bum-ass team like The Suns or Kings through solid teams like Rockets, Pelicans, & Warriors, That's impressive. 

What isn't impressive is lauding him carrying a bum ass team in a joke of a conference for The 8th year in a row. 

21 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

At the minimum, 8 straight finals equals 128 additional games. That means he's played nearly 10 seasons when many players played eight. It's really amazing.

 

I'm sorry some salty Boston Celtics fans lack perspective. But really, no one does this in the modern era. There's regular greatness, and then there's greatest of all time greatness. That's what's happening here.

Now if you take off the Lebron optics, you realize him going 8 straight in a Conference that has never really been on his level isn't all that impressive. 

Like lauding Peyton Manning if he won 10 straight Arena Football championships.

 

The only time he's faced anyone close to him is in the Finals, against a team in The West. Where his record is less than stellar. 

[IceCap]

2 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

Like lauding Peyton Manning if he won 10 straight Arena Football championships.

He lead a team down 3-1 to the record-breaking Warriors to a NBA Championship. You are talking out of your  

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Boston

 

(In fairness, not all Boston. But a lot)

[Lights Out]

49 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

That’s simply untrue, As i’ve already said, put him on The Suns or Kings and if he makes The Finals with them I’d give him all the credit in the world. 

Put him on the Suns or Kings and he probably has a better supporting cast than the bums he's actually been playing with, as sad as that is. Just imagine LeBron setting Devin Booker up with open threes, as opposed to JR Smith or Jeff Green. You would probably be saying that Booker is "saving LeBron's legacy" and "carrying LeBron."

[ozzyman314]

Just now, Ice_Cap said:

He lead a team down 3-1 to the record-breaking Warriors to a NBA Championship. You are talking out of your  

If you actually read why I was saying you'd realizing I'm specifically referring to The Teams he's faced in The Conference Finals Not the NBA Finals. 

His record there proves my point.

[truepg]

2 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

Put him on the Suns or Kings and he probably has a better supporting cast than the bums he's actually been playing with, as sad as that is. Just imagine LeBron setting Devin Booker up with open threes, as opposed to JR Smith or Jeff Green. You would probably be saying that Booker is "saving LeBron's legacy" and "carrying LeBron."

 

This, thank you.

[ozzyman314]

3 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

Put him on the Suns or Kings and he probably has a better supporting cast than the bums he's actually been playing with. Just imagine LeBron setting Devin Booker up with open threes, as opposed to JR Smith or Jeff Green. You would probably be saying that Booker is "saving LeBron's legacy" and "carrying LeBron."

Still missing the point. 

 

You really think he'd still make The Finals having to go through  teams like The Rockets & Warriors beforehand? 

[See Red]

2 hours ago, ozzyman314 said:

Are you implying that if Celtics didn’t shot 13% Cavs still would have won. 

 

It’s not even Celtics losing that irks me. It’s all the :censored:ing Lebron slurpers like Skip Bayless and so acting like it’s some major accomplishment. 

He had an average game (by his standards) needed 7 games and an all time choking effort by Celtics to make The Finals again. 

Not exactly a good look for him. 

 

If Lebron spent his career out West having to compete against Kobe and now The Warriors, he no way in hell makes 8 straight Finals. 

 

You’re acting like the Cavs were just lighting it up from deep all game. They were slightly better but not much so when you account for Boston having to force threes late.

 

Lebron had 35-15-9. That this was an “average game” for him is the entire point. After game 5 the question was whether or not LeBron had anything left in the tank. In game 7 he played every single minute and willed his trash heap of a team into the Finals. 

[Lights Out]

10 minutes ago, ozzyman314 said:

Still missing the point. 

 

You really think he'd still make The Finals having to go through  teams like The Rockets & Warriors beforehand? 

I think he'd easily get through the Kawhi-less Spurs, the Pelicans, the Wolves, the Jazz, etc. Beating the Rockets seems doable with a better supporting cast. Nobody's beating the Warriors unless they completely choke like they've been doing for much of this series (and they'll still probably win it anyway).

 

As a fan of a Western Conference team, I can't lie: the West is getting by mainly on past reputation and its usefulness as a go-to excuse for the anti-LeBron crowd these days. After GSW and Houston, the West isn't all that great anymore. I'd easily rank the Celtics, Raptors, Sixers and even the Pacers ahead of the third-seeded Blazers.