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18 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

The "imagining" is based on facts. LeBron has already had a better career than Durant... fact. LeBron still gets criticized a lot more than Durant... fact. So based on these facts, guess what one can reasonably project would happen if he had the same career as Durant?

 

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23 minutes ago, Lights Out said:

And fans are equally entitled to think less of a star player for joining the 73-win team that they had just choked against.

 

Right. It’s possible to understand all of the reasons why Durant went to GS and still think it was a lame move from a competitive standpoint because it was. 

 

When Lebron went to Miami I thought that was the lamest, most chicken :censored: move anybody had pulled, but it’s not close to being as lame or chicken :censored: as what Durant did because KD joined the team that beat him. That’s a huge difference. And on top of that Durant got pissy when people called him on it. 

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4 hours ago, who do you think said:

Anyone who attacks Durant's decision to join Golden State but defends LeBron's decision to join Miami (and then Cleveland) is a hypocrite.

I remember a lot of people saying the same thing about both; that the player in question might win some rings with his new team but it wouldn’t mean as much if he had won them with his old team. 

 

I think LeBron’s career as proven that to be true.

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I feel bad for next year’s thread. It’s got a lot to live up to. 

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5 hours ago, Lights Out said:

 

I won't even get into the idea that LeBron is somehow "pathetic" for both joining the Heat and leaving the Heat... or the misogynistic comparison you've come up with for it. It's obvious that you're just one of those bitter haters who will find a reason to criticize LeBron no matter what.

 

OK, please... somebody else tell me they also laughed out loud when the guy who's been crying rivers for pages called someone else a "bitter hater".

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5 hours ago, who do you think said:

You forgot the part where I light flaming bags of dog poop on his front yard and then retreat to my lair and laugh like Danny DeVito's Penguin character.

 

Do you feed the dog some nasty food first, just to enhance the essence?  Why wouldn't you use your own, since you have more control over what goes into it?  I never get this - it just seems so much more practical to use your own feces when tormenting someone.

 

4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

Anyone who attacks any player's decision to join any team is an idiot.  Every player is entitled to take the job that is most attractive to him, for whatever reason.

 

Totally - which is why I've never held a grudge against any player that holds out or refuses to play.  In reality, it's no different than any of us at our jobs, except that most of us don't have the same kind of leverage a star athlete does.  If I did, I'd definitely play hardball to get a higher salary or more perks.  Also, I could decide tomorrow to move to California or anywhere else, and get a new job there.  Athletes don't have the same freedom until they hit FA - why should someone waste their prime years in Cleveland, when they could choose to work / live anywhere else?  It's incredibly selfish to begrudge an athlete for making the decision that's best for himself.

 

That being said, while it's reality to them, it's SPORTS to most of us, and sports kinda exists to give people stuff to waste time debating, so it's fair to discuss - as long as everyone realizes that at the end of the day, reality >SPORTS.

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9 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

To be fair, Giancarlo Stanton going to the Yankees does not have the impact that Durant has. Could he knock 40 home runs and drive in 1000 runs? Yes, but it depends on more factors than Durant faces. On a bad night he'll still put up 15 points and 5-10 rebounds. For Stanton, a bad night is 0-5 with three strikeouts and no RBIs. 

 

Lol, yeah that’s all great, except for the fact that Stanton doesn’t even crack the list of guys the Yankees added while already a juggernaut. The Yankees added future Hall of Fame pitchers the season after winning the World Series TWICE. And that’s just off the top of my head. 

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45 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Lol, yeah that’s all great, except for the fact that Stanton doesn’t even crack the list of guys the Yankees added while already a juggernaut. The Yankees added future Hall of Fame pitchers the season after winning the World Series TWICE. And that’s just off the top of my head. 

 

Did either of those pitchers leave championship contenders that lost to the Yankees in the playoffs largely because of their own inability to play well under pressure?  That's where the primary criticism of Durant stems from.  It was as close as we'll ever see to an all-time great admitting he's not capable of leading a team to a championship, in my opinion.  I don't care that he did what he did largely for the reasons BBTV mentioned, but it's still difficult if not impossible to find a precedent for it especially since having one great player doesn't carry you as far in other sports as it does basketball.

 

The reason Durant gets more leeway than LeBron on changing teams is because as great as Durant is, I don't think there's ever been a feeling that he's chasing something beyond championships.  But at least LeBron fled an inept organization that thought acquiring a 37-year-old Shaq was the answer and that he had already carried about as far as he or anyone could have.

 

Neither should get that much criticism.  It's not like "superteams" are some new thing in the NBA.  What's changed is how they've formed.

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