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MLB: The Defunct Saga - Indianapolis Arrows Added/Updated

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@BellaSpurs beat me to the punch, but even if it wasn't intentional, I like how the I resembles a bow.  Far as some of the rest, I particularly liked the Denver A's.

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7 hours ago, QueenCitySwarm said:

Wow! The Arrows look great, the only thing I have an issue with is the "I" insignia. I just can't for the life of me, see it as an "I". The extra part on the right is really throwing me off, so I think getting rid of it might help. Aside from that, they look pretty good, though I have to say I'd prefer a completely modernized set based on the concept uniforms. 

 

Thanks! I've incorporated your suggestions into the design.

 

7 hours ago, coco1997 said:

I agree with @QueenCitySwarm; the insignia doesn't immediately read as an "I." How about making the logo an "A" as was planned with those '80s mock-ups? I guess the problem you might run into with that is it might move them too close to the Braves, with whom the Arrows would have hypothetically shared a division...On second thought, maybe just try modifying the "I." 

 

My other nitpick is with the road wordmark. "Indianapolis" just seems too unwieldy to work on the front of a jersey. It also makes the arrow underneath too long and thin. How about just "Indy" instead?

 

Those small gripes aside, this is another excellent creation. Excited for the Tampa Bay sweepstakes, especially the TB White Sox!

 

Thanks! I've adjusted the set to incorporate a new "I" that reads more like an "I" and a compact "Indy" script (a la Phila for the A's/Phillies/Sixers) in the original post. Here is a comparison:

 

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It's still blackletter-influenced, but much more clear.

 

7 hours ago, Dalcowboyfan92 said:

The Arrows set looks really clean, and sharp. It's like if the AAA Indians got promoted to the MLB, and having to choose Arrows as their team name because of Cleveland.

 

Thanks! Part of the thesis of the set was making it so that the Arrows' identity could take over for the Indians, whether it be major-league promotion or naming controversy. 

 

6 hours ago, coco1997 said:

 

I didn't know about/overlooked that one, good catch! New Orleans would have just been a few home games, so I doubt I'll do it. Seattle, on the other hand, is in the cards. I'll loop around to it during the Tampa Bay Sweepstakes (because a bunch of consecutive TB concepts will get boring), along with the San Diego Reds and the Washington Nationals (former Orioles). I will be changing the name to Rainiers, citing it as either Nintendo of America not liking it or the city council forcing them to do it as part of getting Safeco Field funded.

 

Basically:

 

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Helping to change their image of crappy play (like the team wouldn't have the same problems they had in Cleveland and the Mariners had with owners) hoping for a brighter, more competitive future. It does mean that Major League would be subject to change, which I'm not fond about.  

 

6 hours ago, the admiral said:

Blackletter is always a valiant attempt at getting around the limitations of the letter I, it works wonders for O, but I think it needs a top and a bottom to read as an I.

 

It's hard for me to get too much into the "character" of the city of Indianapolis, but black and red somehow feels too dour for an Indianapolis team, especially on grey. My experience with Indianoplace is that it's not quite as German and old-stock as Milwaukee, St. Louis, and Cincinnati. It just is. I don't know what color palette would best reflect their just-is-ness.

 

Those original Arrows designs have aged like a banana in the sun, I think we can agree on that.

 

Thanks. I totally see where you're coming from with the "I" (hence the fix) and the color scheme. I thought about mixing up the color scheme to something that might be region/name-appropriate. Blue/gold was on the table for a bit, but I rejected it for being too Brewers-ish. Black/red fit the inspiration and the current iteration of the Indy Indians, while also being "generic" enough for a city like Indianapolis. I mean no offense to the people of Indianapolis, but the city just comes across as a big pile of "blah" compared to other big Midwest towns. 

 

The original designs are so '80s that Nirvana killed their career. I have no doubt that the team would have tossed them under the rug the minute somebody in the office got a copy of Adobe Illustrator, a la the original Timberwolves brand. Also, my research turned up a way to make the design exceptionally dated:

 

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Serpentine. Not even once.

 

2 hours ago, BellaSpurs said:

Y’all dont see the bow in the i? Or am going crazy, I think it’s a genius idea. I love Indianapolis, one of my favorites so far. Also how would Indiana be too close to st.Louis Chicago and Cincinnati But Louisville wouldn’t?

13 minutes ago, Discrimihater said:

@BellaSpurs beat me to the punch, but even if it wasn't intentional, I like how the I resembles a bow.  Far as some of the rest, I particularly liked the Denver A's.

 

Thanks, guys! I did chose the font partially because of the "I," which came that way. I tried to make it a bow in profile, but I didn't like the way it looked. I figured that changing it to a more traditional "I" would be a bit better. 

 

@BellaSpurs, the reason why Louisville wouldn't as much of problem as Indianapolis during the A's attempt to move there was that the AL was a bit more spread out in the area. They had teams in Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland, which were further from Louisville than Indianapolis is from Cincinnati. 

 

@Discrimihater Thanks for liking the Denver A's! They were one of my favorites in the series, especially going all-out with the 1990s set.

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Yea.  It's hard to even call Indianapolis an odd duck because if it were odd it'd at least have something you'd free associate the city with.  Even the things it should be known for (racing and basketball) are more freely associated with other places (Daytona and New York City). There's not even an ethnicity it's linked to the way Chicago is with the Polish, Brooklyn with Italians, Boston with the Irish, etc.

So, I mean, you might as well stick with black and red here.  It'd at least be unique in MLB and has represented baseball in Indy for long enough. 

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The new "I" is a big improvement, as is the "Indy" road script. Good job!

 

Also, the San Diego Reds? ?

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Dang, Indy looks great! I love the arrow under the scripts and the way the striping patterns are carried throughout. I think black & red works fine for them, but if you wanted to try a different scheme, powder blue & red could be an option, as that was what the photo of the mockup uniforms initially struck me as.

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Oh gooey, it's time for the Tampa Bay Sweepstakes! Where so many teams were looking to move to Tampa. Of course, knowing what we know now; they'd be moving into a giant cavernous stadium in The Trop that also doubles as a catwalk sanctuary.

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Just caught up with this thread, man it's the best thing going right now. I loved your complete bastardization of the a's. Can't what to see what you do with the myriad of teams wanting to move to Tampa Bay

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The Arrows look awesome!! Shifting the name to a medieval direction was a great idea. I'd also be curious to see a full set inspired by the retro look; despite the clear rush job with the logo, I think it holds a certain charm. This whole series is fantastic and so fun to follow!

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