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Miami Marlins 2019 Rebrand

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On 11/16/2018 at 4:22 PM, BringBackTheVet said:

Why is “slate” gray always tinted blue? Not just here, but in pretty much any context? I ordered “slate gray” curtains that were basically blue, and have seen slate paint that’s bluish. 

 

That’s what “slate gray” means, a bluish-gray.  Just like “teal” means a light greenish-blue.  And as with teal, the exact ratio of color to color is up to each individual curtain company to decide. 

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20 minutes ago, skip88 said:

Jeter won't pay any good players, nobody shows up to the games, so all they have left to stay relevant is to change uniforms ever so often just to generate a bit of buzz. 

Oh here we go with this trash again. This thread is about the rebrand. Keep your assumptions about Jeter's plans out of here and give him time to prove he's not Jeffrey Loria. To me he's already proved that. 

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7 minutes ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

Oh here we go with this trash again. This thread is about the rebrand. Keep your assumptions about Jeter's plans out of here and give him time to prove he's not Jeffrey Loria. To me he's already proved that. 

No, i will not keep it out. Everyone has slammed jeter, even your beloved marlins man. I have the right to say what i think, and this is  just a move  by the team/jeter to distract from the joke that is the team. They saw what the Heat did and thought, hey lets do that as well. Exactly the same colors, does not take a genius to see where they got the idea from. Please go to the games, nobody is stopping you, but i have the right to say why i think this re brand happened.  3rd identity in 25 years...  LOL. 

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Yeah, they do remind me of the terrible BFBS Mets. I'm so glad they went back to their more traditional uniforms like the Blue Jays and Phillies to match the traditional Red sox, Cubs,Yankees,Tigers, Cardinals,Dodgers( we don't need to go back 100 years to know what I mean). I think the post expansion era from 1961, there are a mixed bag of traditional looking uniforms like the Mets, Blue Jays, Mariners, Expos(when they existed) and messes, Padres, Astros,White sox even the traditional A's changed colors(because of Finley) but this was all because of color TV. The real problem was the 1990s expansion while the Rockies could fit into traditional, the other three teams....Marlins(see above), Diamondbacks(need I say more) and the Rays(changed identities) have been probably some of the most discussed uniforms on this board. The league all the way around has probably looked the best it's ever looked at one time(post-expansion). I think if the Brewers went back the the BIG, Padres(brown), Diamondbacks(garbage can) and leave the Marlins alone because we don't know how these will play out.

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1 hour ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

 

 

This looks gray and black only from that short of a distance. So much for "our colores"... These paired with the plain black cap (from 10 feet and over) will look as generic as possible. I hope they'll change mind and introduce a last minute blue button and brim hat asap, it is desperately needed.

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2 hours ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

Here's the road uni and PANTS... they've got the same sleeve piping along the pants, very good there...

Check out @Marlins’s Tweet:

The script looks great here but again the trim is hard to see. The numbers look good because the red trim is more noticeable. Still think a not black front number would help. I'm over the collar piping too as i perused other teams unis and was stunned by how many teams have sleeve piping but no collar piping. 

 

The Marlins' new number font--or at least certain characters within it--remind me a lot of the Motre Bame Milwaukee Brewers (one of my favorite identities from the past, so definitely not complaining):

 

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As for the overall aesthetic... I've had two or three days to take this in. I think the Marlins stepped up to the plate swinging for the fences. I think they hit a ground-rule double with one RBI--but had they made better contact, they could have hit a 3-run homer.

 

Someone mocked up a version of the blue and black jerseys with white keylines. That one small change alone made the whole jersey that much livelier. (They could even use glitter silver, to harken back to their original days, in that application to great effect). Up close, the detail in the scripts, numbers and sleeve trim look great. From distance, however...they may as well be another black and _______ team. (Kinda like in '03 when they won the World Series...the teal was barely noticeable--but 21-year-old me was all jazzed up about that! So yeah...add one more to the "nostalgia" column for that one.) I'm still not completely sold on the execution of the scripts, namely the terminals of some of the letters when the "M" has sharp pointed terminals (or semi-serifs, I guess?). But that's nitpicky stuff. One thing for sure, though: blue brims would do wonders to bring out at least one of their colores. And did they explore the idea of blue placket piping? That'd be at least one other way to get some more color in there.

 

As it is, it's okay, but I'm not particularly moved by it. That said, I still haven't seen a jersey up close, so I'll see next time I happen by a sporting goods store.

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You're right, they do look alike. Which raises the question: where else would we mistake Miami Modern for Turn-of-the-Century German Midwest? I don't think that's supposed to happen!

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3 hours ago, rmc523 said:

The bigger stroke/outline on the numbers looks so much better - you know, so you can actually see the colors.

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Here are a few pics I've taken after getting some of the merchandise.....the blue is the same as the current blue jersey.

 

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The colors DO pop in bright lighting:

 

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They start to dim/get lost quickly though in less-than-ideal lighting conditions.  I guess luckily the team will be in bright lights in uniforms on the field.5kFQfO8.jpg

 

Woof, that new cap looks AWFUL. Is the black part of the M just negative space?

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8 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Woof, that new cap looks AWFUL. Is the black part of the M just negative space?

 

Yes.  The interior of the M is "blank" - just the regular hat material, whereas the Marlin is raised.

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What a mess. 

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2 hours ago, skip88 said:

No, i will not keep it out. Everyone has slammed jeter, even your beloved marlins man. I have the right to say what i think, and this is  just a move  by the team/jeter to distract from the joke that is the team. They saw what the Heat did and thought, hey lets do that as well. Exactly the same colors, does not take a genius to see where they got the idea from. Please go to the games, nobody is stopping you, but i have the right to say why i think this re brand happened.  3rd identity in 25 years...  LOL. 

You absolutely have the right to say whatever you want, I'm not stopping you. But you're also making assumptions on Jeter and his ownership of the team 13 months into his run and based off what the previous owners did. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Jeter wanting to rebrand the team with a new identity, the fact that there were 2 identities before him isn't his fault. You're assuming this is a distraction from the on field product and I find that laughable. His plan now is for this to be the longterm definitive identity and the one that becomes associated with stability, success, and not making the mistakes that previous owners made. Give the guy a chance before you make ignorant assumptions.

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Had a thought... even with the team's heavy use of black Marlins players were quite good with using a lot of color, orange and blue, in their accessories like batting gloves, cleats, and arm sleeves. I look forward to beautiful light blue accessories next season. Was also thinking the Rockies players are another group who does this well, accentuating the black heavy Rockies jerseys with great purple accessories. 

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6 hours ago, rmc523 said:

The bigger stroke/outline on the numbers looks so much better - you know, so you can actually see the colors.

 

The colors DO pop in bright lighting:

 

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A thicker outline on the cap logo would make a difference too. Like the Brewers logo:

 

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2 hours ago, daveindc said:

A thicker outline on the cap logo would make a difference too. Like the Brewers logo:

 

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The Brewers had a thicker outline in the late 1980s.

 

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And yes, it was the regular logo with an additional gold outline around it. 

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The gray uniforms are absolutely lifeless. The first time I saw them scrolling through this topic and scrolled from the whites to the grays I actually thought my screen dimmed, then I had to refocus my eyes. Even the baseball logo on the sleeve was grey.

 

And this red is crazy-  it really does feel like a different color throughout its applications in the jerseys and logos.

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I'm intrigued by the shoulder patch. From the MLB rulebook

 

 

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3.03 Player Uniforms 

(g) No part of the uniform shall include a pattern that imitates or suggests the shape of a baseball. 

 

 

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