Gothamite Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, vtgco said: The Mets name doesn't work so well outside of NYC. It does when you want to associate the minor-league team with the big league club. The word doesn't mean "Metropolitan" in this context, it means "New York Baseball Club". We can argue the relative merits of that where this particular big league club is concerned, but the overall philosophy is not a bad one. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGeeX5 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, the admiral said: sub-Concepts folder Not really liking that white blob behind Syracuse, could've just left it blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilSox Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, vtgco said: (sigh) A real shame that such a well-executed identity and historical name have been replace by a copy-and-paste. The Mets name doesn't work so well outside of NYC. Because there isn't such thing as a metropolitan area outside of New York City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Is it me, or is that "SYRACUSE" mark a little low on his jersey? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This is a horrible logo. I like they changed to the Mets but slapping the wordmark across the state of New York and calling it a day is just lazy. I wouldve loved to see a logo involving Mr. Met or even the S or Mets wordmark in a roundel would have been better than this garbage. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 What is the matter with a roundel with Syracuse Baseball Club in the Roundel. Then Mets with a baseball inside? It would look so much cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: Is it me, or is that "SYRACUSE" mark a little low on his jersey? It's too low and it's kerned too tight. It's bad. 1 hour ago, NicDB said: Because there isn't such thing as a metropolitan area outside of New York City? Yes, there are "metropolitan areas," but the capital-M Metropolis, as in a country's largest and most important settlement, refers to New York. The notion of Syracuse Metropolitans is therefore a little silly. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtgco Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, the admiral said: Yes, there are "metropolitan areas," but the capital-M Metropolis, as in a country's largest and most important settlement, refers to New York. The notion of Syracuse Metropolitans is therefore a little silly. Totally agree. There are lots of big cities, but NYC is THE big city in the US. 4 hours ago, Gothamite said: We can argue the relative merits of that where this particular big league club is concerned, but the overall philosophy is not a bad one. Maybe... I guess the team might get the a tad of the brand value of its parent club, but I imagine sticking to one name would probably give the team more staying power in its own area. But really, regardless of any cost-benefit analysis, I just want to see more unique, local, and cool identities, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, the admiral said: Yes, there are "metropolitan areas," but the capital-M Metropolis, as in a country's largest and most important settlement, refers to New York. The notion of Syracuse Metropolitans is therefore a little silly. Uh oh, here comes the mobs of angry Syracuse.com commenters from the northern suburbs coming after you But yeah that logo is.. not great. I get doing the parent club connection, but putting two scripts on top of a map of New York is certainly a decision one can make. Going to go out on a limb that because Cuomo was behind the move that the state had something to do with it. Wordmarks at least look good on the jersey. They could've kept the theme they had rolling with the Syracuse Chiefs. Changing it from Native American imagery to a train imagery worked because the Syracuse train station's right next to the stadium and all the Amtrak and freight trains roll by the outfield. But hey, I see the Mets wanting to stamp their brand in CNY so I get it. Just again, that logo, man. Twitter: @RyanMcD29 // College Crosse: Where I write, chat, and infograph lacrosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch B Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I grew up watching a minor league Mets team that bore the parent club's name so I'm totally cool with this branding. https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrExo8AlsZbnWsAzE6KnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTIyNjh0c3ZrBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM3NTljZDAwOTQ3M2Q0OTBmMjE3YzRhYmExYTBkNmM5MQRncG9zAzMEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dlynchburg%2Bmets%26fr%3Dipad%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=758&h=1047&imgurl=4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-t1sR1tCwPrQ%2FVKJJ9qBCquI%2FAAAAAAAALIQ%2F3qta-gkFXzU%2Fs1600%2Fbibby_jim.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2F1986procards.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F12%2Fjim-bibby.html&size=185.2KB&name=1986+PROCARDS+PROJECT%3A+JIM+BIBBY&p=lynchburg+mets&oid=759cd009473d490f217c4aba1a0d6c91&fr2=piv-web&fr=ipad&tt=1986+PROCARDS+PROJECT%3A+JIM+BIBBY&b=0&ni=21&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11n35mch7&sigb=133vfot9u&sigi=12m16n96d&sigt=110u06q09&sign=110u06q09&.crumb=GuKGwGTyjd7&fr=ipad&fr2=piv-webc As a Mets fan, I'm happy their Triple A team is back in the east. Since the Mets left Norfolk, VA, I've always thought Syracuse was a good spot for their Triple A team unless they built a stadium somewhere in Jersey. I don't like the white outlines on the logos, but overall, as a long-time follower of the Mets organization, I am a happy camper. "Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." Dennis Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Besides the awful logo (easily a contender for the worst in AAA and possibly all of the minors), this reaction from a local columnist and sports-talk host perfectly captures the massive downside of this team ditching its local identity and taking on the parent club's identity: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Everything about this is terrible. https://www.behance.net/bmatukewic8043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The logo blows, but the uniforms are fairly decent. I dislike the white outline in "Mets" on the home jersey, but I dig both of the caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGeeX5 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 This version of it from the Mets Instagram looks sooo much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders99 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Smets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 16 hours ago, the admiral said: I'd take Indianapolis Arrows over Indians, pace the history, if only because they're not and will never seem to be an affiliate of the Cleveland Indians. Font needs work but the name is fine. Syracuse Chiefs should have stayed. Mets only works for New York City. I was thinking that, too. "Mets" is something that works for NYC, because, you know, it's a huge city. Syracuse isn't. I always sort of thought of the Mets as a specifically NYC team, and the Yankees more of a New York (state) team based on their names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 hours ago, KGeeX5 said: This version of it from the Mets Instagram looks sooo much better Agreed, except it still has the weird white square over the little section of Connecticut that juts in toward Rye and Port Chester. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Oof! Abandon a team name that has graced Syracuse minor league baseball for 77 years (87, if you count the decade under the SkyChiefs sobriquet)? Check! Unveil an uninspired - and visually clunky - primary logo that seemingly attempts to position the franchise as enjoying some sort of (non-existent) statewide appeal or relevance? Check! In other words, the Wilpons have hit the ground running when it comes to replicating their spotty track-record as owners of the big-league Mets with their newly-acquired Triple A franchise. Frankly, they'd have been better served doing something as simple as retaining the current Chiefs logos/uniforms while adopting the Mets color palette. Barring that, simply render the Chiefs name in a Mets-style script on the front of the home jersey and go with the road uniforms that they've just unveiled. As for a logo, copy the layout of the Mets primary mark, but place the name Chiefs over a silhouette of the downtown Syracuse skyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Buffalo Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 14 hours ago, vtgco said: Totally agree. There are lots of big cities, but NYC is THE big city in the US. Maybe... I guess the team might get the a tad of the brand value of its parent club, but I imagine sticking to one name would probably give the team more staying power in its own area. But really, regardless of any cost-benefit analysis, I just want to see more unique, local, and cool identities, not less. OK. Let's Compromise. From this day forward, they shall be called the Syracuse Suburbans, but like the Metropolitans we shall shorten it to the Syracuse Subs Don't the people of NYC think pretty much the rest of New York State is just a Suburb of NYC anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, MC Buffalo said: From this day forward, they shall be called the Syracuse Suburbans, but like the Metropolitans we shall shorten it to the Syracuse Subs Oooh, daddy. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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