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Torland Star League - A Fictional Baseball History: The Introduction

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First off, what an amazing idea and I love the backstories on the country and teams as well. On the logos however, which all look great, but they each seem to be a bit ahead of their time, except for Perna. For example, the Waterdee Ducks logo looks fantastic for 2018, but in 1960 I feel like the W logo without the duck might work best for the time period. The secondary and tertiary marks for all teams look exactly like I'd think of a 60s logo as, but the roundels and modern fonts seem to give the primaries a more modern feel. Nonetheless, still great logos and I'm excited to see where you take this!

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On 11/21/2018 at 11:24 AM, Roadrunner8ball said:

First off, what an amazing idea and I love the backstories on the country and teams as well. On the logos however, which all look great, but they each seem to be a bit ahead of their time, except for Perna. For example, the Waterdee Ducks logo looks fantastic for 2018, but in 1960 I feel like the W logo without the duck might work best for the time period. The secondary and tertiary marks for all teams look exactly like I'd think of a 60s logo as, but the roundels and modern fonts seem to give the primaries a more modern feel. Nonetheless, still great logos and I'm excited to see where you take this!

 

Thanks for the critique, I'm inclined to agree with you. Torland being fictional gives me a little wiggle room on modern looks but I went back and compared to other big ball teams of the era and made some adjustments. I just love roundels and baseball so I'll keep that general aesthetic for this series but hopefully some of these are more simple and appropriate for the time period.

 

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What do y'all think, better looks for the era?

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San Estas and Cobante fit, but for the ducks, I'd go with something slightly more donald-duck cartoonish for the primary with maybe a bad, but a simple "W" for. Kinda like how the St. Louis Cardinals have been doing it since the 50s

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I do love these designs, the roundels in particular are very well executed. The idea of doing a totally fictional world, instead of a totally fictional sport, is really cool too and I look forward to seeing it evolve.

I do have a criticism however. So far, these identities feel a bit... typical? Right now it seems like every team is just going to have a local animal as its name. I'd love to see in the coming identities maybe some people-at-work kinda names, references to more abstract elements of a city, and maybe even elements of the cityscape getting mixed into the logos. Right now I feel like the descriptions are making the city's come alive, but the logo isn't really reflecting it. If part of what you're doing is telling the story of Torland through its baseball league, I think having the visual elements of  the series really reflect Torland would be really helpful to the series. I don't really know what that would be, because it's not my world.

Also, a question: which city is the capital, and is it large like the Londons of the world or smaller like the Washingtons and Ottawas?

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18 hours ago, TargetToad said:

San Estas and Cobante fit, but for the ducks, I'd go with something slightly more donald-duck cartoonish for the primary with maybe a bad, but a simple "W" for. Kinda like how the St. Louis Cardinals have been doing it since the 50s

 

Thanks. I struggle in the freehand drawing department so those types of logos are difficult for me but I really dig the idea so I'm gonna give it a shot. No telling on how it'll turn out so I think it'll become an alternate logo that could turn into a primary, similar to the Orioles. Good idea.

 

8 hours ago, Jack3Nimble said:

I do love these designs, the roundels in particular are very well executed. The idea of doing a totally fictional world, instead of a totally fictional sport, is really cool too and I look forward to seeing it evolve.

I do have a criticism however. So far, these identities feel a bit... typical? Right now it seems like every team is just going to have a local animal as its name. I'd love to see in the coming identities maybe some people-at-work kinda names, references to more abstract elements of a city, and maybe even elements of the cityscape getting mixed into the logos. Right now I feel like the descriptions are making the city's come alive, but the logo isn't really reflecting it. If part of what you're doing is telling the story of Torland through its baseball league, I think having the visual elements of  the series really reflect Torland would be really helpful to the series. I don't really know what that would be, because it's not my world.

Also, a question: which city is the capital, and is it large like the Londons of the world or smaller like the Washingtons and Ottawas?

 

Thank you for your thoughts, always appreciated. I think I wanted to start fairly simple and work my way up from there. Torland will be a breeding ground for many leagues and there will be some pretty crazy identities in the future. I agree some of these initial nicknames could be somewhat common but they were all chosen carefully based on my (still-growing) understanding of each city. In some respects, I'm still learning about Torland too. But that is definitely something to continue keeping in mind, especially with juggling the magnitude of a huge new world.

 

I'm glad you asked about the capital. The capital city of Torland is Vensessor, situated just north of Prestonburg in New Dosa at the geographical center of the island. It is a small city, more similar to DC in it also being an independent district apart from the state, but it's laid out more like Canberra in Australia. It's near the headwaters of the Cauldron River and many of the government buildings are built into the cliffs and foothills of the northern Wilder Mountains. Victory Station is the central military headquarters for Torland's armed forces, including the NDA (National Defense Agency, Torland's version of the CIA) and the historic Fort Renfro, which was named for "Mad" Sal Renfro, the most famous military leader in Torland's history, known for his fearless style and demeanor.

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1 hour ago, Steelman said:

 

I struggle in the freehand drawing department so those types of logos are difficult for me but I really dig the idea so I'm gonna give it a shot.

You could always recolor/tweak Oregon’s clearly stolen from Disney Disney-licensed Donald Duck Logo, as long as you give credit.

 

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Not a big fan of the hand drawn style of the lettering for Cobantle and San Estas, and the W isn’t doing much for me, seems too bland. However I really like the seal logo and roundal as a whole for Cobantle and San Estas

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On 11/23/2018 at 9:59 PM, ItsSlothy said:

You could always recolor/tweak Oregon’s clearly stolen from Disney Disney-licensed Donald Duck Logo, as long as you give credit.

 

 

Ok, this is not hand drawn, I took various free art from around the internet and spliced them up to get what I needed. I kind of like it and it can be a base for now until I can hand draw my own version. What do you guys think of this direction? I'm not sure if it's too cute or if the cap is enough to make the duck look baseball-ish.


If I stick with this new duck, should he be named Webby or Dubby?

 

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On 11/24/2018 at 12:02 AM, BellaSpurs said:

Not a big fan of the hand drawn style of the lettering for Cobantle and San Estas, and the W isn’t doing much for me, seems too bland. However I really like the seal logo and roundal as a whole for Cobantle and San Estas

 

Thanks for your thoughts! The hand drawn lettering is being reconsidered as they matched the uniform scripts but I'm reevaluating each look to stay era-appropriate as I don't want to get too modern too early. I tend to jump the gun sometimes.

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3 minutes ago, Steelman said:

 

Ok, this is not hand drawn, I took various free art from around the internet and spliced them up to get what I needed. I kind of like it and it can be a base for now until I can hand draw my own version. What do you guys think of this direction? I'm not sure if it's too cute or if the cap is enough to make the duck look baseball-ish.


If I stick with this new duck, should he be named Webby or Dubby?

 

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Thanks for your thoughts! The hand drawn lettering is being reconsidered as they matched the uniform scripts but I'm reevaluating each look to stay era-appropriate as I don't want to get too modern too early. I tend to jump the gun sometimes.

The Waterdee is perfect, the update is tremendous 

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10 hours ago, Steelman said:

 

Ok, this is not hand drawn, I took various free art from around the internet and spliced them up to get what I needed. I kind of like it and it can be a base for now until I can hand draw my own version. What do you guys think of this direction? I'm not sure if it's too cute or if the cap is enough to make the duck look baseball-ish.


If I stick with this new duck, should he be named Webby or Dubby?

 

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That is one good logo! It looks like it was designed by Arthur Evans. And by the way, you should call that duck Dubby, and if you ever do a female duck mascot, call THAT one Webby.

 

P.S. I don’t know yet, but I think I’m a Seals fan.

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As I continue to introduce new teams and identities, I'll be adding in pieces of Torland history and other pertinent information. Torland has a vast collegiate athletic system, which is part of the reason professional sports have taken off in the country. (Other than baseball, American football, hockey, and soccer are all popular. Basketball hasn't quite caught on yet but it's growing slowly) Here is the collegiate system, comprised of two overall governing commissions, each with a unique configuration of conferences and divisions. The UAC is considered the more elite of the two, featuring larger universities, budgets and facilities. Below is a map and list.

 

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UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS COMMISSION (UAC)

 

BIG SIX CONFERENCE (BSIX)

 

Abrieden Bulldogs

Maienzona Mustangs

Pakola State Tigers

Granago Lions

Granago State Pirates

New Dosa Hornets

 

SUPER TEN CONFERENCE (S10)

 

- East Division

 

Cabriga Tech Panthers

Lecayne Saints

Hemstrand Hawks

Forstana State Bears

Isles State Vikings

 

- West Division

 

Kimaesee Falcons

Tamokeva State Wolves

Bevin Patriots

Emerald Eagles

Cauldron Valley Wildcats

 

UNIVERSITIES OF TORLAND ATHLETICS COMMISSION (UTAC)

 

SOUTH SUN CONFERENCE (SSC)

 

Conover Crusaders

Mitchlea Broncos

Estas Jaguars

Turnbull Tech Cougars

Cromwell Golden Eagles

Coulston-Dunlis Raiders

 

FOREST LAKES CONFERENCE (FLC)

 

Guilden Tech Pioneers

Robinette Rams

Wingate Owls

Howerton State Black Knights

Gavas Bobcats

 

MOUNTAIN COAST CONFERENCE (MCC)

 

Pantoja Dragons

Madford Red Devils

Warrington Tech Warriors

Fulcher Tech Trojans

Pinkerton Tech Bulls

 

 

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Trouble in Paradise?

Kip Christy of South Cabriga, rumored to also want a Malvaton-based club has publicly denounced new Malvaton Maroons owner George Kidwell, saying that his own franchise proposal was decidedly better but Kidwell forced him out. Kidwell hotly denied the accusation, saying that Christy is an incompetent, petulant child. Christy is reportedly now seeking to establish a team directly across the bay in Moriga despite the lack of a suitable facility in the city, the only one being the Alliance Center, which is a ramshackle structure in bad condition and almost 20 years old.

 

Kip, Kip, Hurray?

Kip Christy appears to have gotten his wish to start a team in Moriga, much to the chagrin of the other new owners. In a jab to Kidwell, Christy has decided to stake his claim on the whole Cabriga Isles and call his team the Cabriga Blackbirds with the Alliance Center (now known as “The Shack”) as home park. Also officially announced, though with much less fanfare and drama, Joe Cardoza will own the San Estas Seals, playing at Ferryman Field.

 

Malvaton Is Swaddled in Maroon

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Malvaton keeps things simple with primary use of their namesake color which they pair with cream and occasionally powder blue.

 

Quick Facts:

  • City: Malvaton, Cabriga Isles
  • Nickname: Maroons
  • Colors: Maroon, Cream
  • Owner: George Kidwell
  • Home: Rhymorkin Park (Cap. 46k; Built: 1954; Field: Grass; Owned by Rhymorkin Family Trust; Nickname: "The Rhy")
  • Sponsor: (none)
  • Mascot: (none)

Malvaton is an interesting city because of its prominence as an island port and a gateway to other areas of Torland. The Cabriga Isles in general (pronouced KUH-BREE-GUH) have a deep, tumultuous history, perhaps only slightly underscored by the bitter feud between Maroons owner George Kidwell and Blackbirds owner Kip Christy, who were dorm mates and classmates at Cabriga Tech. The island state's nickname is "The Land of Leaping and Joy" or "The Leaping State" comes from the large herds of wild goats on the island before it was inhabited, which is also the inherent meaning for "Cabriga." It's people are hardy, boisterous and known for both working hard and playing hard. They will bicker and backbite among themselves (Malvaton, Moriga, and Engor being the big three) but if there's a state issue, the islanders are fiercely loyal to protect their state. The addition of several air force bases only further flavored the bravado that these islanders carry. The term "maroon" is from a special forces unit based out of nearby Fort Barrows and Joint Base Hauser which became famous for its elite roster of sea and air warriors trained by General Daniel Hauser. These soldiers had to undergo intense training and complete a handful of dangerous missions before earning a special maroon beret, which itself was a nod back to the old pirate days of Malvaton when a certain notorious Captain Cetta wore a white cap that had been fully stained into a dark maroon-ish color from the blood of his slain enemies. It is said that the "Spirit of Cetta" still lives on in the people of Malvaton, and many still call themselves the "Sons of Cetta." The Maroons play at Rhymorkin Park (the venerable William Rhymorkin being the founding father of the city) which is owned by the Rhymorkin Family Trust which has built and maintains dozens of facilities and municipal improvements in the city. (A modern comparison to the park would be AT&T Park in San Francisco). New owner Kidwell made his money in offshore oil investments and several big dollar defense contracts for the air force. Kidwell infamously carries himself with a particular ease in front of the camera but off the record is just as temperamental as his rival Kip Christy. If any of the new owners in Cabriga can survive themselves, the potential for a loyal fanbase is extremely high.

 

(Note: I'm not super keen on the secondary mark as it looks too collegiate. I was working on a more unique mark with a maroon beret but haven't come up with something I feel good about yet. What do y'all think, any ideas?)

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Great series so far, and Torland seems like a place from a Just Cause game, IMO

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Birds Find a Nest in Moriga

 

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The Blackbirds had a snafu with the fabric dye and received a dark brown and light blue instead of the off black and teal that Kip Christy had requested. Because of the last minute nature of his franchise agreement, Christy decided to go ahead with it anyway.

 

Quick Facts:

  • City: Moriga, Cabriga Isles
  • Nickname: Blackbirds
  • Colors: Dark brown, light blue, cream
  • Owner: Kip Christy
  • Home: Alliance Center (Cap. 32; Built: 1940; Field: Turf; Owned by the City of Moriga; Nickname: "The Shack")
  • Sponsor: Antler Entertainment
  • Mascot: (none)

The city of Moriga (MOR-REE-GAH) is the rebellious, brash little brother to Malvaton across the bay. Moriga is mixture of Oakland and New Orleans in the States. As the primary city of the southern Cabriga Isles, the people are not keen to outsiders but also don't mind the flocks of people who frequent the many casinos along the coastal ferry ways in the area to keep the economy flush with cash. The local municipal government is poorly run and the crime rates are among the highest in Torland. Nearby Devilshy Mountain which carries an imposing figure in the center of South Cabriga Island, was according to folk lore so-named due to the Devil himself being too shy to participate in the sheer revelry going on during the Golden Pirate Era in Moriga. The city has attempted to curb its reputation and keep business taxes low to attract new big business but it also constantly battles the ingrained mob nature of its politics. Blackbirds owner Kip Christy was born in a low-income neighborghood in Moriga before leveraging a track and field scholarship to attend Cabriga Tech (where he met Maroons owner George Kidwell) and relocate to Malvaton. Christy doesn't take no for an answer, evidenced by his strong-arming commissioner Bo Gossett into granting him a franchise despite not meeting many of the requirements. The projected home for the Blackbirds is the Alliance Center (referred to as "The Shack") in Moriga which is 20 years old and in decrepit condition and barely functional as a baseball stadium. The patchwork roof leaks and though it's manually removable, is too beat up to be opened regularly and the early-generation turf is in a bad state. Along with the colorway snafu with the printing company, Christy's foray into baseball hasn't gone well so far. There are concerns among the other owners that Christy's whole arrangement is a major liability for the stability of the new league and his war with George Kidwell isn't the type of publicity they need.

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Would there be any way for the Blackbirds secondary logo to pop up on the uni's shirt. It us my favorite look you have so far 

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I would promote the bird to primary status and write Cabriga Blackbirds around it. And make the current primary the secondary, and get rid of the blackbirds workmark as it clutters it up. I love the color scheme and secondary logo! Lookin good!

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23 hours ago, TargetToad said:

Would there be any way for the Blackbirds secondary logo to pop up on the uni's shirt. It us my favorite look you have so far 

 

Thanks. That's a good idea, I've been messing around with some Cardinals-esque shirt arrangements.

 

13 hours ago, BellaSpurs said:

I would promote the bird to primary status and write Cabriga Blackbirds around it. And make the current primary the secondary, and get rid of the blackbirds workmark as it clutters it up. I love the color scheme and secondary logo! Lookin good!

 

Thanks. I made some adjustments.

 

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The Blackbirds look is by far the best one you have so far. It feels a little atypical for the time, so I don't feel like I'm just looking at an American logo, but it's also not crazy modern looking so I don't feel like it breaks the story. I love the mismatch of name and color; one, it looks great, but two, it incorporates the "shady but glitzy" mood you're clearly going for in Moriga into the look. Loving it--more so than the others, this one really feels like the logo tells a story.

12/10, A++

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