TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 A good friend of mine just uncovered a bunch of official WLAF helmet and logo sheets, and has been helping me fill in the blanks as far as missing Pantones go.I now have confirmed color sets for the entire WLAF/NFL Europe/NFL Europa conglomerate except for the following franchises:England MonarchsRaleigh-Durham SkyhawksThat's it. All other teams are official now.Here are the links to the separate league pages:World League of American Football (1991-1992; 1995-1997)NFL Europe (1998-2006)NFL Europa (2007)Just so you know - I AM working on a redesign of my database that will include combining league information into one record.Even though I'm almost complete, I still have some assorted questions, and one of them has to do with the San Antonio Riders. We've discussed them many times in the past, but I am still confused about their colors. According to my source, they only used the following colors in their color scheme (at least in their logos and helmet design):I had thought for years that their facemasks were supposed to be Orange; it turns out that this was just a bad color match to the Gold. The official helmet graphics apparently show the facemasks to be Gold. Here's an actual pic of a helmet:However, I'm still confused by the uniform trim. Was there Orange trim? Was it Red? I cannot find good pics to determine what was going on there.Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I always thought the Riders had orange trim as well, and I assumed the facemask was orange. Pro Set cards though the Riders had orange too, as it's the color behind the helmet in their sets of cards:The trim doesn't look to be that deep red secondary color. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Apollo Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here's what I've got. Hope it helps.Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks: PMS 201 Nevada Red, PMS 348 Kelly Green, Black"London" Monarchs: PMS 201 Nevada Red, PMS 871 Vegas Gold Metallic, PMS 287 RoyalSan Antonio Riders: PMS 440 Brown, PMS 871 Vegas Gold, PMS 1665 Burnt Orange, Flag on logo: PMS 300 Royal, PMS 200 Scarlet, WhiteJerry: Who was the last President with a beard? George: Nixon. Jerry: No, I mean a real long Smith brothers type Beard? George: Faulkmore. Jerry: Who? George: Artimus A. Faulkmore. Jerry: Your making that up aren't you?George: Yeah, but it sounds real doesn't it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here's what I've got. Hope it helps.Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks: PMS 201 Nevada Red, PMS 348 Kelly Green, Black"London" Monarchs: PMS 201 Nevada Red, PMS 871 Vegas Gold Metallic, PMS 287 RoyalSan Antonio Riders: PMS 440 Brown, PMS 871 Vegas Gold, PMS 1665 Burnt Orange, Flag on logo: PMS 300 Royal, PMS 200 Scarlet, WhiteJerry: Who was the last President with a beard? George: Nixon. Jerry: No, I mean a real long Smith brothers type Beard? George: Faulkmore. Jerry: Who? George: Artimus A. Faulkmore. Jerry: Your making that up aren't you?George: Yeah, but it sounds real doesn't it!?Thanks! I appreciate the help, although I've got a different Pantone for London's Red...Still looking for England's colors (they were apprently different than London's)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Jerry: Who was the last President with a beard? George: Nixon. Jerry: No, I mean a real long Smith brothers type Beard? George: Faulkmore. Jerry: Who? George: Artimus A. Faulkmore. Jerry: Your making that up aren't you?George: Yeah, but it sounds real doesn't it!?OK, so I'm risking looking like a fool here. Were you making those values up, or not? Because, most of the ones I can confirm were spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsM29 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 The question I have is, now that you have the actual colors, how close were your estimates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 The question I have is, now that you have the actual colors, how close were your estimates?Very close in some cases, a little off in others. Par for the course.I nailed the Fluorescent Lime Green for the Thunder, but didn't know that they had an alternate for their uniforms.Now all I need is to find the only two American-based CFL teams I'm also missing - the Las Vegas Posse and the Memphis Mad Dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Apollo Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here we go... Mad Dogs: PMS 330 Green, Black, PMS 129 yellow, PMS 506 burgundyLas Vegas Posse: Black, PMS 4635 Brown, PMS 465 Sand.You owe me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here we go... Mad Dogs: PMS 330 Green, Black, PMS 129 yellow, PMS 506 burgundyLas Vegas Posse: Black, PMS 4635 Brown, PMS 465 Sand.You owe me!Apparently, I do.Thanks!Email me @ the SSUR, and we'll talk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here we go... Mad Dogs: PMS 330 Green, Black, PMS 129 yellow, PMS 506 burgundyLas Vegas Posse: Black, PMS 4635 Brown, PMS 465 Sand.You owe me!OK...I have a question about the Posse. I get it that the Brown 4635 was used in the logo...what about the outer helmet stripe? I was always under the assumption that there was a Red outer stripe...was it actually this Brown color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Las Vegas PosseWithout a doubt, one of the coolest and most underrated city/nickname combos in the history of sports. Rolls off the tongue too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Just bumpin' this one up again today...Anyone have the Pantones for the England Monarchs? I believe they wore Red and Dark Blue (no Gold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The Montreal Machine didn't wear silver. It is listed as grey although the pants were metallic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Apollo Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Montreal Machine didn't wear silver. It is listed as grey although the pants were metallicLa Machine colours are listed as : PMS 5115 Maroon, PMS 877 silver or PMS 429 grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsandt Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Some screenshots from the 1992 season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Some screenshots from the 1992 season...Where did you get those images? I've been looking for clips from old World League telecasts for years! The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Some screenshots from the 1992 season...Look at those facemasks...they really WERE supposed to match the Metallic Gold, believe it or not. They came out somewhere between Yellow and a Light Orange.Thanks for the pics, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Some screenshots from the 1992 season...Look at those facemasks...they really WERE supposed to match the Metallic Gold, believe it or not. They came out somewhere between Yellow and a Light Orange.Thanks for the pics, BTW.They almost look like they were taken from the Washington Redskins' equipment room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_Barlik Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 great thread - didn't know the OT were listed as having "Day-Glo" Lime Jello Green as a color.....always just thought it was Lime Green 5-time Defending NL East Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsandt Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Made those screenshots from a highlight vid. Got that some years ago from a tor..., well, lets say it this way, from the web. Regulary checking ebay for some WLAF stuff and from time to time there is a dude from north of the border who sells WL DVDs.So if you are desperately looking for old WL footage that might be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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