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Why are the 5950's so high? And why did the Low Profiles go away?


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Questions I'd love some help with. I saw the earlier thread regarding the 5950 but did not see why they're still made to stick up so much. Some I've seen are ridiculous.

I loved the Low Profiles but know they're no longer made.

So my questions are...

1) Why does baseball insist on the 5950 riding so high?

2) Why did they ditch the low profile, which is unquestionably a more wearable and normal looking hat?

Is this all New Era's doing? If so, why do they care about making these hats that sometimes look like a cake-box. I have a Marlins hat that sits so high on my head I can't even wear it.

I know I'm in the right place for answers. Thanks!

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1) Why does baseball insist on the 5950 riding so high?

2) Why did they ditch the low profile, which is unquestionably a more wearable and normal looking hat?

1) Not all of the 5950s sit so high. When you buy one, try on multiples and all of them will fit differently. I have a somewhat-loose Reds home 7 5/8 that sits very low, and a somewhat-tight road model, same size that rides high. The two other new models I have are different as well.

2) Unquestionably? I beg to differ.. only a New Era feels right to me, and they don't all feel like a cakebox. Low-profile doesn't look or feel good on everyone. I wouldn't mail-order a 5950, but if I'm somewhere with lots of caps to try, I can find one that works out great. I won't defend their quality control much (although it seems to have gotten better with the switch to polyester, it's still hit-and-miss) but you can find a cap that works for you, I'd wager.

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Take your cap and turn it upside down and book a load of books on it and you will get a lower profile cap. I found this out by accident as I lost one of my caps and found it about a month later under some books, and it sat lower. :lol:

 

 

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2) Unquestionably? I beg to differ.. only a New Era feels right to me, and they don't all feel like a cakebox. Low-profile doesn't look or feel good on everyone. I wouldn't mail-order a 5950, but if I'm somewhere with lots of caps to try, I can find one that works out great. I won't defend their quality control much (although it seems to have gotten better with the switch to polyester, it's still hit-and-miss) but you can find a cap that works for you, I'd wager.

I have to concur. When it comes to outfitting my softball teams, I either go with Richardson 512's or New Era 59/50's across the board, simply because they feel and look like a ballplayer's cap should.

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Those of you who are old enough may remember the sports specialties caps that ceased to exist in the early 1990s. They were my favorite caps.

Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse."

 

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Quality control is still an issue (I'm 7 1/2 in EVERY hat except for retro Jays 7 3/8) but seriously folks, if you work this hat in for a month, it will look how you want it.

Sweating/showering in it isn't as effective as it was with the old wool ones, but if you sweat like me when you work out, then wearing it for that 3 or 4 times will help do the trick. Mine show minor sweat stains but thats nothing a little water or Tide 2 Go won't take care of.

Also, try crushing the crown with objects and leaving it for hours at a time. I would especially recommend this if you're between a hat size. Go with the lower size, crush the crown with objects for a good amount of time, and then use the "cracking" technique where you hold the hat just beyond the brim by each ear and stretch it over your knee (which is usually good for a half size extra).

The reason I say go with the smaller size is because if say, a 7 1/2 is a perfect fit for you right out of the store, or even a bit loose, then it's not going to get any tighter, especially when you try and make the crown lower, because it's not like material is disappearing, it's gotta go somewhere.

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Quality control is still an issue (I'm 7 1/2 in EVERY hat except for retro Jays 7 3/8) but seriously folks, if you work this hat in for a month, it will look how you want it.

Sweating/showering in it isn't as effective as it was with the old wool ones, but if you sweat like me when you work out, then wearing it for that 3 or 4 times will help do the trick. Mine show minor sweat stains but thats nothing a little water or Tide 2 Go won't take care of.

Also, try crushing the crown with objects and leaving it for hours at a time. I would especially recommend this if you're between a hat size. Go with the lower size, crush the crown with objects for a good amount of time, and then use the "cracking" technique where you hold the hat just beyond the brim by each ear and stretch it over your knee (which is usually good for a half size extra).

The reason I say go with the smaller size is because if say, a 7 1/2 is a perfect fit for you right out of the store, or even a bit loose, then it's not going to get any tighter, especially when you try and make the crown lower, because it's not like material is disappearing, it's gotta go somewhere.

I usually cut out the inner lining with scissors (be careful not to puncture the outside as I've done to two of my hats...the hole is not very conspicuous on either luckily however) and that helps the crown form to my head faster. Wearing it 3-4 times after a workout does wonders too. I usually bring one of my 5950s with me when I go running, play bball whatever and put it on for the drive home.

These two steps will have that 59 fitting your head like a glove in a few short days

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Quality control is still an issue (I'm 7 1/2 in EVERY hat except for retro Jays 7 3/8) but seriously folks, if you work this hat in for a month, it will look how you want it.

Sweating/showering in it isn't as effective as it was with the old wool ones, but if you sweat like me when you work out, then wearing it for that 3 or 4 times will help do the trick. Mine show minor sweat stains but thats nothing a little water or Tide 2 Go won't take care of.

Also, try crushing the crown with objects and leaving it for hours at a time. I would especially recommend this if you're between a hat size. Go with the lower size, crush the crown with objects for a good amount of time, and then use the "cracking" technique where you hold the hat just beyond the brim by each ear and stretch it over your knee (which is usually good for a half size extra).

The reason I say go with the smaller size is because if say, a 7 1/2 is a perfect fit for you right out of the store, or even a bit loose, then it's not going to get any tighter, especially when you try and make the crown lower, because it's not like material is disappearing, it's gotta go somewhere.

Thats not true though, at least in every experience I've had. I wear a 7 1/2 perfectly out of the store and after a few months it won't fit at all. And unlike the old wool hats the material has absolutely no give, so cracking it over your knee has almost no effect. If I find a 7 5/8 thats just a bit too big I'll always buy it because it will shrink just slightly and fit absolutely prefect. So yes, the shrinkage is signifigantly less, but it's not non existant. I have nearly a dozen of the new hats in 7 1/2 that are nearly unwearable now because of this.

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Anyone know how to make a 5950 fit a little looser? Junior year's been taking a toll on my head.

Poly or Wool?

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
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Hot shower with it on your head (I conditioned it to soften it up, too! I'm an idiot), then wear it for a while till it dries. It will fit your head. Stripping the buckram helps, too, but you may have done that already.

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The reason I say go with the smaller size is because if say, a 7 1/2 is a perfect fit for you right out of the store, or even a bit loose, then it's not going to get any tighter, especially when you try and make the crown lower, because it's not like material is disappearing, it's gotta go somewhere.

Thats not true though, at least in every experience I've had. I wear a 7 1/2 perfectly out of the store and after a few months it won't fit at all. And unlike the old wool hats the material has absolutely no give, so cracking it over your knee has almost no effect. If I find a 7 5/8 thats just a bit too big I'll always buy it because it will shrink just slightly and fit absolutely prefect. So yes, the shrinkage is signifigantly less, but it's not non existant. I have nearly a dozen of the new hats in 7 1/2 that are nearly unwearable now because of this.

Weird, I`ve worn some of my hats pretty hard and they haven`t had any noticeable shrinkage.

In response to the bolded comment though, I don`t know how that is the case for you, because I worked in a store that sold a lot of 5950s and urban hats, and I would stretch them for people who were having trouble with a size. I even just stretched one of mine just now that I don`t wear very often just to see and it worked.

It`s not nearly as obvious or as great of a stretch as the old wool ones, because those things you could get 2 sizes out of, but the new ones are still good for half a size when stretched.

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