McCall Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It isn't the fact that Mizzou left, it's the fact that a year ago they pledged their loyalty to a 10-team Big XII. Could you really blame Kansas for being bitter towards Mizzou if the Big XII folded and KU had to join the Mountain West for football and the Missouri Valley for all non-football sports following the Tigers' departuer?And then Texas A&M left for the SEC and Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech all flirted with the PAC. It wasn't "any 10-team" Big 12 that they pledged to, it was the current one. And that one became too unstable for them to just sit there and wait to see it go downhill before making a move. Stability came calling in the form of the top conference, so why would they turn that down? Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESTONES6 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The problem is non conference match ups are decided years in advance, so it will take a few years to get these meetings up again. I say the NCAA should step in and mandate Texas and A&M, KU-Mizzou and Pitt-WV continue their rivalry no matter what.Not gonna happen. WVU's already got two out-of-conference rivalries to maintain (Maryland, which is actually a good competitive rivalry, and Marshall, which is pretty much mandated by the governor of West Virginia). TAMU probably won't play UT if they know the game will be broadcast on the Failhorn Network. And KU-Mizzou probably won't happen with the way Mizzou departed the Big XII.Mizzou wants to keep playing. It's Kansas who's being the whiny crybabies.But is Kansas really being crybabies? They are defending themselves and their conference, in a sense. Mizzou left for a money grab instead of honoring long traditions, so why should Kansas be expected to do the same?No they made a decision based on what was best for the school, stability in the top rated conference over instability in a sinking conference. It's kind of a no-brainer. They're priority is what's best for Missouri, not another school. The rivalry had a chance to continue non-conference. Mizzou wanted to keep it going, KU declined. Fine, but to come out and say Mizzou is abandoning them and that the rivalry should've superseded any reasoning for leaving is just ridiculous. They were upset because they weren't being sought after by other conferences like Mizzou and other schools were.You have no clue why Kansas is terminating the rivalry. To say you do know why is asinine. The Big XII could have remained stable with 10 teams, including aTm and Mizzou, however, neither school wanted to pledge their loyalty to the conference. Sure there is a bunch of BS behind the scenes with Texas and Oklahoma, but bottom line is, Mizzou left the conference for safer waters. They left Kansas. They shouldn't expect Kansas to hold on to the rivalry. In a way, Mizzou, Colorado, Nebraska, and Texas A&M leaving is a slap in the face to the remaining schools that don't have options. If those 4 schools didn't want to stand by the conference for stability and loyalty, then why should Kansas stay loyal to those rivalries?This is laughable. There is no way the Big 12 is anywhere near as stable as you've made it out to be. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are more than likely off to the Pac-12 as soon as they get the chance, and Texas Tech is hoping they're included somehow. Texas has pretty much alienated every team in the conference. Even if OU were to stay, them and Texas are now going through a power struggle, so one would eventually get pissed and leave anyway.Mizzou did what was best for them. Kansas is bitter. Yes, I've seen some of their comments. It's pretty well known. If Kansas had the same opportunity, I guarantee you they would jump as well.Before laughing, read what's written. The Big XII could have been stable as a 10 team conference had aTm and Mizzou stayed. They would have eventually brought in someone like a Texas Christian and West Virginia, and they would have been fine. TCU isn't the caliber of Nebraska, but WV is better than Colorado.You are exactly right. Mizzou did what was best for them, so you can't expect Kansas to behave for the betterment of Mizzou. If Mizzou is going to get theirs, then I have no problem with Kansas getting theirs... or ANY team for that matter. Quote SAINT IGNATIUS WILDCATS | CLEVELAND BROWNS | CLEVELAND CAVALIERS | CLEVELAND INDIANS | THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It isn't the fact that Mizzou left, it's the fact that a year ago they pledged their loyalty to a 10-team Big XII. Could you really blame Kansas for being bitter towards Mizzou if the Big XII folded and KU had to join the Mountain West for football and the Missouri Valley for all non-football sports following the Tigers' departuer?"Murderer's Row" (with the possible exception of Baylor) had standing invites from the Big East in the event of the utter collapse of the Big XII. Kansas' AQ status would be secure regardless of what happened. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Jacksonville Jaguars are dropping down and moving to the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Jacksonville Jaguars are dropping down and moving to the SEC.Florida won't allow it. And since they're in the east, they're out of the Big East's geographical region. Their best bet would be the Sun Belt. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkell007 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Jacksonville Jaguars are dropping down and moving to the SEC.Florida won't allow it. And since they're in the east, they're out of the Big East's geographical region. Their best bet would be the Sun Belt.or C-USA...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Jacksonville Jaguars are dropping down and moving to the SEC.Florida won't allow it. And since they're in the east, they're out of the Big East's geographical region. Their best bet would be the Sun Belt.Would Flordia Atlantic or Florida International want the competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The Jacksonville Jaguars are dropping down and moving to the SEC.Can they really compete in the SEC, though? The payroll of those teams tend to be way higher than the Jaguars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Back to colleges, more on the "Western Six" of the Big East for 2013.From the story: Chances are good that San Diego State will join the Big East Conference in football unless something unexpected derails their ongoing discussions, sources close to the situation have said. The Aztecs still need to find a league to place their other sports. The most likely spot for those teams is the Big West, the sources said. Another possibility is the Western Athletic Conference. The Big Sky is probably not an option. The commissioner of the Big West, Dennis Farrell, didn't return a call seeking comment. WAC Commissioner Karl Benson said Friday, "If and when the time is right to have that conversation, I would certainly welcome it." Though a move to the Big West might appear to be a downgrade for the SDSU's men's basketball program, the Big West's TV deals with ESPN and Fox Sports would be considered upgrades with potential for growth in exposure and revenue. According to the plan, the Aztecs would be part of a six-team Big East western division that could include other new potential members Boise State, Houston, Southern Methodist and possibly Air Force. Louisville also might be part of that division, though it's not certain. The winner of the western division would face the winner of the eastern division in a championship game. The proposed eastern division probably would include UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati, South Florida and possible new members Central Florida and Navy. For SDSU, a move would be made mainly to increase its TV rights money. In the Mountain West, SDSU gets about $1.5 million annually. The Aztecs struggled for exposure with many of its games on The Mtn., which isn't available to about 200,000 Time Warner Cable subscribers in the northern half of San Diego County. By contrast, Big East members receive a reported $3.7 annually, but the league hopes to significantly increase that amount when it negotiates its TV contract, which is currently with ESPN. It's unclear how much money the Big East would fetch in a new contract, which is where the risk comes in. It would depend in large part on who would be part of the new league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESTONES6 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 By contrast, Big East members receive a reported $3.7 annually, but the league hopes to significantly increase that amount when it negotiates its TV contract, which is currently with ESPN. It's unclear how much money the Big East would fetch in a new contract, which is where the risk comes in. It would depend in large part on who would be part of the new league.I didn't realize the disparity was so large between the Big East and the B10/SEC. I mean, its staggering. Quote SAINT IGNATIUS WILDCATS | CLEVELAND BROWNS | CLEVELAND CAVALIERS | CLEVELAND INDIANS | THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailstateunis Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I still think the Big East should try and get Southern Miss. Especially after they killed Houston today. Quote http://www.hailstateunis.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 By contrast, Big East members receive a reported $3.7 annually, but the league hopes to significantly increase that amount when it negotiates its TV contract, which is currently with ESPN. It's unclear how much money the Big East would fetch in a new contract, which is where the risk comes in. It would depend in large part on who would be part of the new league.I didn't realize the disparity was so large between the Big East and the B10/SEC. I mean, its staggering.In May 2010, the conference received an offer from ESPN for $12M/team, but they rejected it thinking that they could get more the closer to the end of their contract which is 2013. Now they have lost some members and media markets. They planned to leverage major media markets to gain a max deal. That is why they are looking at SMU (Dallas), UCF (Orlando), Houston, and eve SDSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Finally...Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013Football OnlyBoise StateSan Diego StateAll SportsCentral FloridaHoustonSMU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 SAN DIEGO State in the Big EAST... Sure. Quote | ANA | LAA | LAR | LAL | ASU | CSULB | USMNT | USWNT | LAFC | OCSC | MAN UTD | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Can someone take the Big East out back and shoot it already? That dog needs to be put out of its misery. Quote On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Here's a linkhttp://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/12/big_east_football_expansion_an.htmlI cant say any more I just face palmed myself into a noise bleed. Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Because Nebraska (the first domino) HAD to join the BigTen, college football has now become THIS. BTW, Props to Air Force for telling the Big East to go to hell. Go Falcons Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 BTW, Props to Air Force for telling the Big East to go to hell. Go Falcons Go.Well, at least for now. Tank's link still quotes the commish as wanting to have a 12-team conference. My guess is that this move came first, and that when Cuse, Pitt, and WVU leave then 2 more will be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I think the NCAA would be a more honest opperation if it were run by Bernie Madoff, John Gotti, Al Capone, and Tony Soprano.BTW the reason for this one is the AQ Bull and Boise State playing in the Maaco Bowl again despite #7 ranking. Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Bunky Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 So SDSU might play football in the Big East and other sports in the Big West? Wow....But I would love to have San Diego State in the Big West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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