WAC

[cyandlux]

Well, if this has been posted already, sorry, but this interests me as a SJSU alum.

The WAC needs to get proactive instead of reactive by fining Fresno and Reno for leaving.

Plan A: Expand D1 by bringing up (finally) Sac St, UC Davis and Cal Poly (SLO) (this has been a long term plan that needs to be fast tracked now).

Plan B: Steal back Conference USA teams like SMU and Tulsa.

Plan C: Hawaii and SJSU go to the MWC and the WAC folds with everyone going back to D2/1AA from which they came.

It looks like its Plan D...no plan whatsoever which will eventually lead to Plan C.

[Red Wolf]

Well, if this has been posted already, sorry, but this interests me as a SJSU alum.

The WAC needs to get proactive instead of reactive by fining Fresno and Reno for leaving.

Plan A: Expand D1 by bringing up (finally) Sac St, UC Davis and Cal Poly (SLO) (this has been a long term plan that needs to be fast tracked now).

Plan B: Steal back Conference USA teams like SMU and Tulsa.

Plan C: Hawaii and SJSU go to the MWC and the WAC folds with everyone going back to D2/1AA from which they came.

It looks like its Plan D...no plan whatsoever which will eventually lead to Plan C.

SMU and Tulsa wouldn't want to go back to the WAC. They left for a reason. And the WAC has also offered North Texas in the past but they'd rather stay in the Sun Belt.

[cyandlux]

I was thinking that if they're not careful LA Tech will leave for either Conference USA or the Sun Belt.

[Red Wolf]

I was thinking that if they're not careful LA Tech will leave for either Conference USA or the Sun Belt.

The WAC doesn't really want Louisiana Tech. I can't imagine C-USA wanting them unless Houston leaves for the Mountain West or something, and even then I don't see why they'd want them. LA Tech has pretty well burned its bridges with the Belt so who knows how that will go.

[dfwabel]

Well, if this has been posted already, sorry, but this interests me as a SJSU alum.

The WAC needs to get proactive instead of reactive by fining Fresno and Reno for leaving.

Plan A: Expand D1 by bringing up (finally) Sac St, UC Davis and Cal Poly (SLO) (this has been a long term plan that needs to be fast tracked now).

Plan B: Steal back Conference USA teams like SMU and Tulsa.

Plan C: Hawaii and SJSU go to the MWC and the WAC folds with everyone going back to D2/1AA from which they came.

It looks like its Plan D...no plan whatsoever which will eventually lead to Plan C.

Plan A cannot happen as the NCAA has the moratorium on teams stepping up to FCS. It will be lifted on August 9, 2011, which is past the deadline for which a school's president/chancellor has to file with the NCAA in order to play as a FBS school for the 2013 season. The filing deadline is set for "not later than June 1 two years prior to the September 1 when the institution intends to reclassify to the Football Bowl Subdivision."

Plus the reclassification process takes four to five years.

[zmspartans]

if plan C were to happen and the FBS lost a few teams , i would hope that there is someone out there who is smart enough and has enough power to finally cut down the number of bowl games , as there are 35 , meaning 70 teams play out of the current 120 .

[Seadragon76]

Plan C, but with a twist...

-New Mexico State and Louisiana Tech join Conference USA (NMSU in the West and Louisiana Tech in the East)

-Idaho and Utah State join the Mountain West (Despite Boise State running interference to block the Vandals)

-Hawaii goes Independent

-San Jose State either falls down to 1-AA (Big Sky or Great West would be a good fit) or pulls the plug on their football program (Which could happen someday down the road)

[LEWJ]

I think a huge conference re-alignment for the NCAA should be in order.

I think even number of teams in each conference, sensible conference names, without numbers... hah

Just something that could be around a while, and make sense.

[Lights Out]

Plan B is what should happen for the WAC if they want any hope of survival. Plan C is what most likely will happen, especially if the commissioner keeps running his mouth.

As a longtime Boise State fan, I hate the WAC. They've been the one thing standing between us and the National Championship Game. Yes, the BCS is crap for punishing teams for other schools in their conference sucking, but the WAC is also to blame for sucking other than Boise State. I certainly wouldn't miss the WAC if it were to fold.

[Burmy]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

That's the WAC's only option for long-term survival in my book...I don't see why they can't do it.

[rams80]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

That's the WAC's only option for long-term survival in my book...I don't see why they can't do it.

NCAA rebuttal: If a teetering, barely functional to begin with Conference collapses due to its Machiavellian Schemes spectacularly blowing up in its face, why should we care. Also, dropping the moratorium only adds more weak sisters to I-AA.

[Lights Out]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency. In fact, it's probably a positive, all the other conferences can cherry-pick the former WAC teams and take in a little more money.

[cyandlux]

I just want SJSU to stay D1 in football. Which, yes, they had said they would like to cut it prior to Tomeys "success" (New Mexico Bowl win).

[Red Wolf]

Plan C, but with a twist...

-New Mexico State and Louisiana Tech join Conference USA (NMSU in the West and Louisiana Tech in the East)

-Idaho and Utah State join the Mountain West (Despite Boise State running interference to block the Vandals)

-Hawaii goes Independent

-San Jose State either falls down to 1-AA (Big Sky or Great West would be a good fit) or pulls the plug on their football program (Which could happen someday down the road)

There's a problem with that plan though. Why would C-USA want LA Tech or NMSU? They add nothing. Same for Idaho going to the Mountain West. Utah State could be a possibility in the Mountain West though, especially for basketball.

[CityOfWalrus]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency.

Hardly the worst conference in the FBS..

Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, and Nevada all have been winners against some BCS teams the past 5 years in either bowl games or regular season games. They've had a team in a BCS bowl game 3 out of the past 4 years. When was the last time the C-USA, MAC, & Sun Belt ever did that? The only other Non-AQ conference that contends with that is Mountain West.

[FiddySicks]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency. In fact, it's probably a positive, all the other conferences can cherry-pick the former WAC teams and take in a little more money.

I think you're underrating the WAC just a bit. It's not the greatest conference, but prior to the purge it wasn't all that bad. Hawaii, Fresno St., Boise St., and Nevada have all been pretty impressive in football in the past few years and were building the other teams around them up to where it was actually fairly competitive. And when you look at the basketball side of it, Utah State has done pretty well and Nevada has been extremely impressive. Now that three of the top four teams are gone it's definitely going to be tougher, but with a bit of creativity I think it'll be able to survive. Well, at least until the super conferences come...

[Seadragon76]

Plan C, but with a twist...

-New Mexico State and Louisiana Tech join Conference USA (NMSU in the West and Louisiana Tech in the East)

-Idaho and Utah State join the Mountain West (Despite Boise State running interference to block the Vandals)

-Hawaii goes Independent

-San Jose State either falls down to 1-AA (Big Sky or Great West would be a good fit) or pulls the plug on their football program (Which could happen someday down the road)

There's a problem with that plan though. Why would C-USA want LA Tech or NMSU? They add nothing. Same for Idaho going to the Mountain West. Utah State could be a possibility in the Mountain West though, especially for basketball.

In the case of Louisiana Tech, it's either that or the Sun Belt and I've heard that the Sun Belt isn't all that fond of Louisiana Tech to begin with. By having them and New Mexico State join Conference USA, it'll help expand the conference footprint (Which goes from Texas to West Virginia) and it will not only keep older rivalries alive (New Mexico State and UTEP), it can create new rivalries (Louisiana Tech and Tulane, for example)

As for Idaho, it's either that or joining San Jose State in the FCS ranks and I don't think the Vandals really want to regress that much. Yeah, they were a member of the Big Sky a long time ago, but I just don't think that is what they want.

[Lights Out]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency.

Hardly the worst conference in the FBS..

Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, and Nevada all have been winners against some BCS teams the past 5 years in either bowl games or regular season games. They've had a team in a BCS bowl game 3 out of the past 4 years. When was the last time the C-USA, MAC, & Sun Belt ever did that? The only other Non-AQ conference that contends with that is Mountain West.

That's why I said "arguably."

Boise's been the only really good school in the conference for a while now. Yeah, sometimes those other schools luck into crap like the Humanitarian Bowl but let's be honest, who really cares about those tiny bowls?

[cyandlux]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency.

Hardly the worst conference in the FBS..

Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, and Nevada all have been winners against some BCS teams the past 5 years in either bowl games or regular season games. They've had a team in a BCS bowl game 3 out of the past 4 years. When was the last time the C-USA, MAC, & Sun Belt ever did that? The only other Non-AQ conference that contends with that is Mountain West.

That's why I said "arguably."

Boise's been the only really good school in the conference for a while now. Yeah, sometimes those other schools luck into crap like the Humanitarian Bowl but let's be honest, who really cares about those tiny bowls?

What about Fresno State? They were Boise State before Boise State. Need I remind everyone that SJSU beat Stanford 3 years in a row from 98-01!!!

[rams80]

I think the NCAA needs to hold an emergency meeting where they can lift the moratorium (I believe there's a provision where they can do it if an urgent case arises, which, frankly, I don't see why it shouldn't)

The impending death of arguably the worst conference in the FBS is hardly an emergency.

Hardly the worst conference in the FBS..

Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, and Nevada all have been winners against some BCS teams the past 5 years in either bowl games or regular season games. They've had a team in a BCS bowl game 3 out of the past 4 years. When was the last time the C-USA, MAC, & Sun Belt ever did that? The only other Non-AQ conference that contends with that is Mountain West.

That's why I said "arguably."

Boise's been the only really good school in the conference for a while now. Yeah, sometimes those other schools luck into crap like the Humanitarian Bowl but let's be honest, who really cares about those tiny bowls?

What about Fresno State? They were Boise State before Boise State. Need I remind everyone that SJSU beat Stanford 3 years in a row from 98-01!!!

Was that one of Stanford's good periods or one of Stanford's we suck please drop our sport periods?