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Thinking about buying a China Counterfeit? AKA "The who can best justify IP theft thread".

#1681 User is offline   walby2 

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 18:37

Despite all of the advances in Chinese manufacturing technology, there is something about the simple American block font that just eludes them. Seriously, is it THAT hard?

...but notwithstanding the LOL-inducing jerseys posted here, a lot of the websites linked to from here manage to produce replicas that appear bang-on to about 99% of the sports-watching population.

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 20:48

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 21:06

Not a counterfeit, but my friend posted this pic of himself at the Hockey Hall of Fame. You'd think they'd get the name font right.
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Story B: Red Wings go undefeated and score 100 goals in every game. They also beat a team comprised of Godzilla, the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, 2 Power Rangers and Betty White. Oh, and they played in the middle of Iraq on a military base. In the sand. With no ice. Santa gave them special sand-skates that allowed them to play in shorts and t-shirts in 115 degree weather. Jesus, Zeus and Buddha watched from the sidelines and ate cotton candy.

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 21:17

View Postnash61, on February 22, 2012 - 21:06, said:

Not a counterfeit, but my friend posted this pic of himself at the Hockey Hall of Fame. You'd think they'd get the name font right.
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I'm looking at the Canadiens jerseys from that era on nhluniforms.com and the name font seems to match up.
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View Postthe admiral, on April 1, 2012 - 14:09, said:

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 21:19

Ah, Wayne Gretzky. The only NHL pleyer to have played in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2010s.Posted ImagePosted Image

And while it's not a knockoff...seriously, WTF? Oh, well, I'm not the one who wasted $200:

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Posted February 22, 2012 - 21:20

At least if it was a #49 Tampa Gretzky jerseys he's be close. I knew a guy in Junior High that had a Gretzky Wings jersey.
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Posted February 23, 2012 - 09:13

View Postcharger77, on February 22, 2012 - 21:20, said:

At least if it was a #49 Tampa Gretzky jerseys he's be close. I knew a guy in Junior High that had a Gretzky Wings jersey.


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Posted February 23, 2012 - 09:16

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Posted February 26, 2012 - 16:14

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.
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Posted February 26, 2012 - 16:23

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Posted February 26, 2012 - 20:33

View Postunimaniac, on February 26, 2012 - 16:14, said:

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?
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If they prematurely cut off hockey for golf one more time, we're gonna have to start calling them Leafs TV.

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Posted February 26, 2012 - 20:35

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View Postunimaniac, on February 26, 2012 - 16:14, said:

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?

Not to mention there's rumors of Nike upping the prices on NFL replicas when they take over for Reebok in April. Over $100 for a replica is bullsheet.
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Posted February 26, 2012 - 20:39

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I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?


The licensed product if I had the available funds. If not maybe I'd get a t-shirt/sweat shirt or two of my favorite team.
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Posted February 26, 2012 - 20:40

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View Postsportstar1212, on February 26, 2012 - 20:33, said:

View Postunimaniac, on February 26, 2012 - 16:14, said:

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?

Not to mention there's rumors of Nike upping the prices on NFL replicas when they take over for Reebok in April. Over $100 for a replica is bullsheet.

If the logos numbers and striping are embroidered, I would be okay with that price.
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If they prematurely cut off hockey for golf one more time, we're gonna have to start calling them Leafs TV.

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Posted February 26, 2012 - 21:04

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View Postsportstar1212, on February 26, 2012 - 20:33, said:

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?


The licensed product if I had the available funds. If not maybe I'd get a t-shirt/sweat shirt or two of my favorite team.


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Posted February 26, 2012 - 21:04

View Postcharger77, on February 26, 2012 - 20:39, said:

View Postsportstar1212, on February 26, 2012 - 20:33, said:

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?


The licensed product if I had the available funds. If not maybe I'd get a t-shirt/sweat shirt or two of my favorite team.

Right. I think the problem lies in the fact that the vast majority of the sports-apparel-purchasing population is ignorant to the devil in the details. They just go "Oh, it's so cheap because it comes right from the overseas supplier," or "it's a great deal on eBay," and they don't notice the difference in details or quality, no matter how glaring we jersey nerds may find it. I have a friend who bought several baseball jerseys from a bootleg site, and he had me take a look at them. I pointed out the inaccuracies in design and construction I saw, but they were things he - and probably 99% of the non-obsessive public outside of this board - wouldn't notice.

The problem here is on several fronts. Jersey prices keep spiraling upward at a time when most people's paychecks are not, the jersey is now seen as an "essential" accessory of sports fandom in a way it wasn't 10 or 20 years ago, and teams and leagues (except for the Canadiens) haven't gotten out in front of this. They haven't marketed directly to fans to explain why that $50 jersey on eBay isn't "worth it", and seem to be ignoring the revenue problem that's filling their arenas nightly.

I don't think the average consumer is like loogodude, who is just Hard Trollin' at this point. But many are ignorant to the problem, and I think teams and leagues need to do a far better job addressing it.

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Posted February 26, 2012 - 21:18

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View Postsportstar1212, on February 26, 2012 - 20:33, said:

View Postunimaniac, on February 26, 2012 - 16:14, said:

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?

Not to mention there's rumors of Nike upping the prices on NFL replicas when they take over for Reebok in April. Over $100 for a replica is bullsheet.

If the logos numbers and striping are embroidered, I would be okay with that price.

Me too, but because I'm a cynic I think they'll still be screen-printed.
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Posted February 27, 2012 - 00:06

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View PostRedSox44, on February 26, 2012 - 20:35, said:

View Postsportstar1212, on February 26, 2012 - 20:33, said:

View Postunimaniac, on February 26, 2012 - 16:14, said:

I have a quick question for those who are on the Pro-Buying-Fakes side of this argument, especially with regards to NFL jerseys. What's the appeal of buying them over the $75 replicas? Is it 100% the fact that the fakes are cheaper, or is the authentic look just that much preferred over the replica look?

This is for research purposes for my Sports Law paper. As mentioned before, I'm writing a law school paper on counterfeit jerseys, and I plan to have a so-called "Reasons people buy them" section. I'm not actually going to quote anyone, but I just want the general feeling.

I'll use NFL as an example beacuse that where it seems to be bad:
I think knockoffs are populare because people are pissed off with Reebok. Reebok charges $80 for a jersey where the logos, numbers, and stripes are screen printed. You could also get an authentic jersey for $250. Then, there are the Chinese made jerseys which are meant to be the equivalent to an authentic. They may be knockoff, but for the most part it looks accurate and everything is nicely embroidered and go for $20-60. Which would you buy?

Not to mention there's rumors of Nike upping the prices on NFL replicas when they take over for Reebok in April. Over $100 for a replica is bullsheet.

If the logos numbers and striping are embroidered, I would be okay with that price.


That's yet another glaring error in the counterfeits.

The numbers aren't and haven't ever been embroidered. In fact, the only thing that's embroidered on an authentic jersey are if the team has a logo on the sleeve or chest.
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Posted February 27, 2012 - 01:09

At least they're from overseas. I've always been bothered that the number font on Reebok Dallas Cowboy authentic jerseys sold in america, is different then the font on the game jerseys! that imo is inexcusable
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Posted February 29, 2012 - 16:34

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