2012 MLB & Logo Changes
#1701
Posted February 21, 2012 - 12:21
#1702
Posted February 21, 2012 - 12:32
Old School Fool, on February 21, 2012 - 07:05, said:
Using "Indian" to refer to Native Americans is considered incredibly racially insensitive.

#1703
Posted February 21, 2012 - 12:37
NDwas, on February 21, 2012 - 10:14, said:
The old scoreboard looked so much better... Well not the screen, but the rest of it. And they got rid of the clock too! Tut tut, for shame.
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#1705
Posted February 21, 2012 - 14:41
RedSox44, on February 21, 2012 - 12:32, said:
Actually, that isn't true. According to the US Census Bureau, 55% of people who identified as indigenous preferred the term "American Indian," 34% preferred "Native American" and the remainder preferred other terms or had no preference; you would think, I guess, that we should listen the indigenous people of the Americas.
#1706
Posted February 21, 2012 - 15:08
The old scoreboard was horrible with two low res boards on the side and ads in the middle. The arched TIGERS is terrible and the clock was impossible to read.
#1707
Posted February 21, 2012 - 15:10
#1708
Posted February 21, 2012 - 15:38
On itself it's an upgrade.
#1709
Posted February 22, 2012 - 18:30


I guess they're not retiring #7 for Todd Pratt. Or Jose Reyes.
#1710
Posted February 22, 2012 - 18:43
#1712
Posted February 22, 2012 - 23:59
#1713
Posted February 23, 2012 - 01:37
dgthree, on February 21, 2012 - 14:41, said:
RedSox44, on February 21, 2012 - 12:32, said:
Actually, that isn't true. According to the US Census Bureau, 55% of people who identified as indigenous preferred the term "American Indian," 34% preferred "Native American" and the remainder preferred other terms or had no preference; you would think, I guess, that we should listen the indigenous people of the Americas.
Not only that, but the term "Indian" to refer to indigenous peoples in the Americas wasn't meant to be offensive. Christopher Columbus, the schmuck, thought he was in India. So he called the people he came across "Indians." He didn't call them that to demean them.
So it's an inaccurate term and an incorrect term. It's not an offensive term, however.
#1715
Posted February 23, 2012 - 05:06
Bucfan56, on February 22, 2012 - 23:59, said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember the Mets saying that was the plan when they were first unveiled. They did wear last year's ugly blue-and-black BP's in a regular season game as well.
#1716
Posted February 23, 2012 - 10:34
Braden, on February 23, 2012 - 02:37, said:


Wish it didn't have the navy pit stains.

#1717
Posted February 23, 2012 - 10:46
cmm, on February 23, 2012 - 05:06, said:
Bucfan56, on February 22, 2012 - 23:59, said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember the Mets saying that was the plan when they were first unveiled. They did wear last year's ugly blue-and-black BP's in a regular season game as well.
Throw the logo patch on the left sleeve and add some orange piping, and you have your 2013 alternate.

#1718
Posted February 23, 2012 - 10:48
njmeadowlanders, on February 23, 2012 - 10:46, said:
cmm, on February 23, 2012 - 05:06, said:
Bucfan56, on February 22, 2012 - 23:59, said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember the Mets saying that was the plan when they were first unveiled. They did wear last year's ugly blue-and-black BP's in a regular season game as well.
Throw the logo patch on the left sleeve and add some orange piping, and you have your 2013 alternate.
I'd buy it.

#1719
Posted February 23, 2012 - 11:21
njmeadowlanders, on February 23, 2012 - 10:46, said:
cmm, on February 23, 2012 - 05:06, said:
Bucfan56, on February 22, 2012 - 23:59, said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember the Mets saying that was the plan when they were first unveiled. They did wear last year's ugly blue-and-black BP's in a regular season game as well.
Throw the logo patch on the left sleeve and add some orange piping, and you have your 2013 alternate.
And I'm sure that when the blue alternates come out next year, they will probably crap-up the BP jerseys, such as adding orange side panels, to diferentiate it from the blue alt.
#1720
Posted February 23, 2012 - 21:00
Ice_Cap, on February 23, 2012 - 01:37, said:
dgthree, on February 21, 2012 - 14:41, said:
RedSox44, on February 21, 2012 - 12:32, said:
Actually, that isn't true. According to the US Census Bureau, 55% of people who identified as indigenous preferred the term "American Indian," 34% preferred "Native American" and the remainder preferred other terms or had no preference; you would think, I guess, that we should listen the indigenous people of the Americas.
Not only that, but the term "Indian" to refer to indigenous peoples in the Americas wasn't meant to be offensive. Christopher Columbus, the schmuck, thought he was in India. So he called the people he came across "Indians." He didn't call them that to demean them.
So it's an inaccurate term and an incorrect term. It's not an offensive term, however.
What about the fact that their logo is the equivalent of putting a Chinese guy with yellow skin and thin eyes, calling him a specific word that begins with a "c", and finding nothing wrong with it?
^Wow, the Blue Jays look fantastic. The 3D stitching on the logo (puff patch) looks awesome.


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