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I watched the premiere of the new NBC game show The Wall.

 

It's essentially a giant Plinko game. I think it's good.

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21 minutes ago, habsfan1 said:

I watched the premiere of the new NBC game show The Wall.

 

It's essentially a giant Plinko game. I think it's good.

If I have a complaint it's that the show's overly sappy.  There's too much emphasis on the feel-good story of the contestants and not enough emphasis on the game itself.

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15 minutes ago, LMU said:

If I have a complaint it's that the show's overly sappy.  There's too much emphasis on the feel-good story of the contestants and not enough emphasis on the game itself.

 

What bothers me even more is how some of the good ones get cancelled after only half a season sometimes.

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3 hours ago, habsfan1 said:

I watched the premiere of the new NBC game show The Wall.

 

It's essentially a giant Plinko game. I think it's good.

I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.  Without giving anything away..... I could not believe how that ONE red ball made a direct B-line towards that ONE spot on the last drop and that couple ended up the way they did.  Absolutely crazy.  I didn't see that particular ending coming at all. 

 

The fault was the husband's.  He never should have tripled up on that final drop. 

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17 hours ago, andycumbee19 said:

Without giving anything away..... I could not believe how that ONE red ball made a direct B-line towards that ONE spot on the last drop and that couple ended up the way they did.  Absolutely crazy.  I didn't see that particular ending coming at all.

 

The same thing happened in the 1st episode. Both times it was to the contestant's detriment.

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19 hours ago, LMU said:

If I have a complaint it's that the show's overly sappy.  There's too much emphasis on the feel-good story of the contestants and not enough emphasis on the game itself.

Deal or No Deal got that way the last 2 seasons of it.  Everybody had some sappy tragic story were trying to play for the $1,000,000.  I also think Gladiators got that way too. Its an NBC thing. 

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13 minutes ago, kmccarthy27 said:

Deal or No Deal got that way the last 2 seasons of it.  Everybody had some sappy tragic story were trying to play for the $1,000,000.  I also think Gladiators got that way too. Its an NBC thing. 

Deal or no Deal was almost unbearable.  If the people on there were so bad off,  stop opening cases when your offers are in the 6 digits already. 

 

Poor people can be greedy too,  and it almost always comes back to bite them. 

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I'm torn on The Wall.  I like the concept of the show but there's some annoyances.  The sappiness that LMU mentioned is one of them.  Another is the contestants explaining every single decision or answer they make.

 

"My dad *fights back the tears* taught me how to play football when I was seven, so I'm going to choose seven, Chris."

 

Uh, that's a bit of a stretch.

 

Does it seem to anybody else like the questions have gotten significantly more difficult each episode?  They were comically easy on the first episode, slightly less so on the second, and the third one had some difficult questions. 

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The Price is Right is having a live show in Atlanta in March.  We got our tickets not long ago.  Not sure what to expect...are they taking their whole show on the road with this being a recorded show for a future date, or just a facsimile so those that can't get to Los Angeles can get in on the action?

 

I doubt I'll try to be a contestant, but if I did...I'd forgo winning the car or a European trip if Manuela sitting on my face was a prize..... #HeyNow

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On 1/3/2017 at 4:44 PM, kmccarthy27 said:

Deal or No Deal got that way the last 2 seasons of it.  Everybody had some sappy tragic story were trying to play for the $1,000,000.  I also think Gladiators got that way too. Its an NBC thing. 

God dammit I miss Gladiators.  Put that show ion Spike or another cable network and it might work.

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11 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

The Price is Right is having a live show in Atlanta in March.  We got our tickets not long ago.  Not sure what to expect...are they taking their whole show on the road with this being a recorded show for a future date, or just a facsimile so those that can't get to Los Angeles can get in on the action?

 

I doubt I'll try to be a contestant, but if I did...I'd forgo winning the car or a European trip if Manuela sitting on my face was a prize..... #HeyNow

 

 

When I lived in South Dakota there was a "Price is Right Live" show in town for a week or so.  It wasn't the actual thing with Drew Carey, wasn't televised or anything, and, while I didn't go to it, I imagine the prizes were less extravagant.  Maybe that's what it is?

 

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4 minutes ago, See Red said:

 

 

When I lived in South Dakota there was a "Price is Right Live" show in town for a week or so.  It wasn't the actual thing with Drew Carey, wasn't televised or anything, and, while I didn't go to it, I imagine the prizes were less extravagant.  Maybe that's what it is?

 

They're only in town for that one day.  Can't imagine the real deal just doing one show.

 

So I guess the prizes will include a GameBoy, a year's subscription to AOL, and a '96 Kia....

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I think they still give away trips, large appliances, stuff in the low-4 figures. They have Plinko, but the top prize is only $2,500.

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I went in Vegas one year, and Todd Newton hosted the show.  The main game, got 4 new people to play the pricing game for each of the 6 rounds.  They pretty much bid on, items that were <$500 like digital cameras, watches etc...  When they played the main games that's where the prizes were more large appliance and cheap trips, which sometimes included a free stay at the casino they were doing the show. 

 

The Showcase round, they had one of those 3 trip combo showcases where like the others were more within the continental US, and the other was for a car, and at that time it was a Nissan Versa which at that time was only 9,000 and small enough for a model to drive out on stage.  

 

I will also point out in Vegas 3 of the 4 people called on stage for the bidding round were part of the casino's rewards program. 

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The only time they took TPIR out of the Bob Barker Studio was a primetime special from Vegas in one of the old man's final years as host.  Because of the layout of the auditorium they used (pretty similar to the Ed Sullivan Theater, balcony-style seating), Barker looked grumpier than usual while waiting people to make it to Contestant's Row.

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Bumping up this thread because Monty Hall died Saturday at age 96. Let's Make A Deal is his TV legacy, but I had no idea how deeply involved in charitable organizations he was, or that he wanted to be a doctor, but was excluded by a Canadian system at the time which secretly imposed limits on the number of Jews allowed in med school.

 

There will probably be a tribute marathon coming up on Buzzr, so I encourage you to either catch some of it or watch him run the Deal on YouTube, and pay attention to how the man worked. He was constantly spinning multiple plates and planning moves ahead to ensure he was creating the biggest mind- :censored: possible for the contestant and interest for the viewer at home. And yet there was never any real cruelty or sadism to it; he wanted the players to have fun win or lose, not feel like they got screwed. In the current version, everything's a little more straightforward, and not so subject to those last-minute swerves or buildup of tension that Monty worked so well. The guy was a true master of his craft.

 

And 1970s Split Second kicks the ass of Jeopardy up and down any hallway you got.

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Yeah, I mentioned it in the Monty Hall thread, but Split Second was a terrific concept that never got the execution quite right. The Family Channel ran the '80s Split Second in the summer of '95 and I became obsessed with it, just in time for USA and the Family Channel to drop the midday game show reruns a couple months later; I wouldn't see a lot of those shows again until Noted Video-Sharing Website YouTube put them up eleven years later. 

 

It didn't occur to me then, but I see now that the biggest problem, ironically, was Monty himself, who had to host because they taped in Hamilton on the cheap and needed a Canadian for CRTC purposes. I think he was out of his element and couldn't keep up with his own idea: too much stumbling on right/wrong answers, trouble explaining some of the three-pronged questions. Also, like I said, cheap. $5 (and late-'80s CDN at that?) for a right answer looks lame. I think there's only one episode left of the original, and Tom Kennedy handled it much better, but it looks primitive (they didn't have the technology to show the order players buzzed in, so it looked ad hoc or arbitrary) and the bonus round is kind of a throwaway after such a challenging game. But I liked it a lot and wish it got another shot with real production values and sharper hosting.

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Agreed with you that Monty was out of his element hosting the show. It needed someone who could deliver the questions straightforward and move things along at a solid clip constantly, and that clearly wasn't his preferred delivery. The worst part, though, was how they ruined the core element of the show by reversing the presentation of the questions. In the original, here come the three sub-questions, then the main question gets read, and if you buzz in too early, the host stops reading the question right away, and you could screw yourself. So there's a risk/reward in having that hair trigger.

 

In the '80s reboot, Monty reads the main question in full first, then shows the three sub-questions, at which point everyone immediately presses their buzzers every time, so it's just a reflex game. Monty then reads all three sub-questions in full, so whoever got the minuscule jump on their opponents now gets a couple more seconds to process which question they're going to pick. All of this probably slowed the game down as much as Monty's hosting did. The neon indicators below each player and making the Countdown Round 4-5-6 instead of 3-4-5 are about the only upgrades I took from the reboot.

 

I also agree with you that the bonus game is just... ehh. Fit in perfectly when they used it on Hollywood Squares in the '80s, but not here. Personally, I'm of the mind that such a solid game with a suspenseful final round like this one doesn't need a bonus round at all, though I'm sure a good one could be crafted out of the three-part question conceit. My thought was that the champion gets a set cash bonus for winning the game, and that bonus increases every day the champion defends their title. Say if you put the game in 2017 dollars, your first win gets you $10,000, your second gets you $20K, then $30K, $40K, and your fifth gets you another $100,000 and retired.

 

By the way, someone who was on the show for four days in the '70s apparently had a VCR at the time, and uploaded his run to YouTube.

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