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Rebuttal: There's no imminent or medium-term arena issue in the league (outside of the Kings), so you don't need a convenient market for moving threats,

The Bucks? Maybe?

Signed a lease extension to 2017 last October.

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
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Rebuttal: There's no imminent or medium-term arena issue in the league (outside of the Kings), so you don't need a convenient market for moving threats,

The Bucks? Maybe?

Yeah, keyword there being maybe. For the Bucks, the need to spend the money needed to up the on court product in the interim. Also the arena issue needs to be sped up at the same time, and both need to coincide with each other to get the local interest back. Otherwise it's going to turn into dead horse beating. And more of it. The problem with most arena or stadium deals now a days, is that there is always some kind of tax that has to be added, or in Milwaukee's case, as has been bandied about, is extending the Miller Park tax to help fund the new building. And there are still a lot of people unhappy about that, there is much resistance there, major roadblock. Until at least a site is picked and artist renderings start showing up, I am still a little bit iffy on everything there.

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Rebuttal: There's no imminent or medium-term arena issue in the league (outside of the Kings), so you don't need a convenient market for moving threats,

The Bucks? Maybe?

Signed a lease extension to 2017 last October.

Being kinda close to the situation, that lease is noted to be a temporary stop gap measure to build a bridge of sorts towards the new arena. Giving the team and arena officials time to put together a concesence plan for the new building.

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Unless the Bucks get back to the ECF by the time the lease is up, I don't see the taxpayers willing to pony up for a new building... and even if they do make it back, I'm still not sure that would change anything.

...and the Bucks organization has no one but themselves to blame for that.

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Rebuttal: There's no imminent or medium-term arena issue in the league (outside of the Kings), so you don't need a convenient market for moving threats,

The Bucks? Maybe?

Signed a lease extension to 2017 last October.

Being kinda close to the situation, that lease is noted to be a temporary stop gap measure to build a bridge of sorts towards the new arena. Giving the team and arena officials time to put together a concesence plan for the new building.

True, and as I understand it the Seattle has a limited time span to get something done (5 years starting last year).

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All this seems very interesting as it also has a huge effect on what happens in the NHL in regards to Phoenix. If I recall, the arena would also house an NHL team (most likely the Coyotes whenever that situation falls through and the NHL FINALLY gives up hope there) and from what I read here and there in various media, I get the feeling that Seattle would be the prefered destination for a new NHL team, especially after all the reallignment stuff. If this falls through, then I guess the best place for a relocated/ expansion team would infact be Quebec City.

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All this seems very interesting as it also has a huge effect on what happens in the NHL in regards to Phoenix. If I recall, the arena would also house an NHL team (most likely the Coyotes whenever that situation falls through and the NHL FINALLY gives up hope there) and from what I read here and there in various media, I get the feeling that Seattle would be the prefered destination for a new NHL team, especially after all the reallignment stuff. If this falls through, then I guess the best place for a relocated/ expansion team would infact be Quebec City.

If the rumors are true, and the other NHL owners are tired of subsidizing the Coyotes, then their situation might need to be settled sooner rather than later. Do we have any sense how quickly the Sacramento decision might take? What exactly needs to happen?

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All this seems very interesting as it also has a huge effect on what happens in the NHL in regards to Phoenix. If I recall, the arena would also house an NHL team (most likely the Coyotes whenever that situation falls through and the NHL FINALLY gives up hope there) and from what I read here and there in various media, I get the feeling that Seattle would be the prefered destination for a new NHL team, especially after all the reallignment stuff. If this falls through, then I guess the best place for a relocated/ expansion team would infact be Quebec City.

If the rumors are true, and the other NHL owners are tired of subsidizing the Coyotes, then their situation might need to be settled sooner rather than later. Do we have any sense how quickly the Sacramento decision might take? What exactly needs to happen?

The BOG will decide on or around the 19th of April. After that it's done and the Kings belong to Hansen and are on their way to Seattle. That's all that needs to happen. The NHL can engage the ownership group in Seattle and depending on how fast they move the Coyotes could also be Seattle bound a few weeks later since their own owners would approve that move pretty fast (since there's no good reason to stay in Glendale at this point).

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On the contrary, it looks like the Coyotes are going to make the playoffs and we're going to do yet another summer of Hang On The Papers Are Almost Signed Give Us Two More Weeks, so I don't think there's any urgency in Glendale after all. Also, Seattle looks about as capable to start a team on short notice as I do.

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On the contrary, it looks like the Coyotes are going to make the playoffs and we're going to do yet another summer of Hang On The Papers Are Almost Signed Give Us Two More Weeks, so I don't think there's any urgency in Glendale after all. Also, Seattle looks about as capable to start a team on short notice as I do.

What makes you say that? They're already planning to renovate Key Arena in the off season and have already had the NHL approve of it as a temp venue until their new arena is ready. Seems to me they're more than capable.

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Well, let's break down:

Is there some billionaire who has been in talks to buy the team?

Seattle: maybe

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

Is there a world-class arena being built to house this team?

Seattle: hopefully in a while maybe

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

And will the team be the anchor tenant at this arena, which is imperative for sufficient revenue streams?

Seattle: no

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

In the meantime, is there a suitable place to play?

Seattle: we sort of have 75% of a suitable place to play

Quebec: it's old but it's still bigger than Winnipeg's barn

Advantage: Quebec

Would you happen to own your own RSN, a virtual necessity these days?

Seattle: maybe later

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

Can you say with certainty that the team will be a success there?

Seattle: Of course! As long as you don't make us suffer the growing pains of an expansion team, I mean I think we're a little too good for that, those hoser bastards will watch any old crap but we're Seattle

Quebec: bien sur!

Wait, did someone just speak :censored:ing French.

Seattle: Wasn't me.

Quebec: Hi didn't ear anyting.

QUEBEC LOSES BY FORFEIT

WINNER: SEATTLE BY A SCORE OF A MILLION TO NEGATIVE INFINITY

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The issuess surrounding where the NBA's Kings will be playing long-term - and how that impacts where the NHL's Coyotes will be moving - continue to be in a state of flux.

Ben Bolch of the the Los Angeles Times is reporting that...

"Commissioner David Stern indicated this week that the decision of whether the Kings can be sold to Seattle investors could extend beyond the NBA Board of Governors meeting April 18-19 in New York.

"It had been widely expected that the board's vote on the proposed sale and relocation of the team would be the final say on the matter, but Stern told reporters there were 'complex' issues that needed to be resolved before a final decision could be reached.

"Stern did not say when the Kings' fate would ultimately be decided other than in time to prepare for next season."

Meanwhile, the Sacramento Bee reported last Thursday that Alameda Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch has announced that he plans to strike down a provision of AB 900, the two-year-old California law designed to fast-track major construction projects that face legal challenges on environmental grounds. The portion of the law that Roesch would strike down requires opponents of big construction projects to file their lawsuits in state appellate court, which would have just 175 days to rule. Roesch, ruling in a case brought by the Planing and Conservation League, said that opponents of projects should have the right to begin the legal process in lower courts. Beginning the process in lower courts could then take longer than 175 days.

So, the "lead" that members of a proposed Sacramento ownership group felt they'd gained in the race to complete construction of an arena when Chris Hansen conceded that it might take longer than originally stated to build in Seattle may well have evaporated.

In other words, stay tuned... and be prepared to stay tuned for what could be a longer period of time than we'd initially thought.

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"Commissioner David Stern indicated this week that the decision of whether the Kings can be sold to Seattle investors could extend beyond the NBA Board of Governors meeting April 18-19 in New York.

"It had been widely expected that the board's vote on the proposed sale and relocation of the team would be the final say on the matter, but Stern told reporters there were 'complex' issues that needed to be resolved before a final decision could be reached.

Translation: the NBA doesn't think that either plan represents its group's best offer, and it's waiting for the groups to sweeten their offers.

And why not? The NBA can only win by dragging out negotiations between two interested ownership groups. Unlike other prolonged relocations, the Sacramento fans won't abandon their club, needing to show support. So the Kimgs can stay put while the NBA squeezes every last cent. I don't know if the NHL can afford to wait until the dust settles there.

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"Commissioner David Stern indicated this week that the decision of whether the Kings can be sold to Seattle investors could extend beyond the NBA Board of Governors meeting April 18-19 in New York.

"It had been widely expected that the board's vote on the proposed sale and relocation of the team would be the final say on the matter, but Stern told reporters there were 'complex' issues that needed to be resolved before a final decision could be reached.

Translation: the NBA doesn't think that either plan represents its group's best offer, and it's waiting for the groups to sweeten their offers.

And why not? The NBA can only win by dragging out negotiations between two interested ownership groups. Unlike other prolonged relocations, the Sacramento fans won't abandon their club, needing to show support. So the Kimgs can stay put while the NBA squeezes every last cent. I don't know if the NHL can afford to wait until the dust settles there.

Sweeten their offers? Both ownership groups in Seattle and Sac are offering half a billion dollars for one of the NBA's worst teams, and on top of that Sacramento is offering a quarter billion in public funding for a new downtown arena (in California no less where public funding for stadiums doesn't happen very often if at all). The offers aren't going to get any better from either side. What they're waiting for now is simply which arena has the better chance of happening.

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Meanwhile, the Sacramento Bee reported last Thursday that Alameda Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch has announced that he plans to strike down a provision of AB 900, the two-year-old California law designed to fast-track major construction projects that face legal challenges on environmental grounds. The portion of the law that Roesch would strike down requires opponents of big construction projects to file their lawsuits in state appellate court, which would have just 175 days to rule. Roesch, ruling in a case brought by the Planing and Conservation League, said that opponents of projects should have the right to begin the legal process in lower courts. Beginning the process in lower courts could then take longer than 175 days.

Why? It's always going to be appealed, why not save your state a few dollars in court fees?

On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said:
You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now.
On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said:
Today, we are all otaku.

"The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert

POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010

The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy)

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Well, let's break down:

Is there some billionaire who has been in talks to buy the team?

Seattle: maybe

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

Is there a world-class arena being built to house this team?

Seattle: hopefully in a while maybe

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

And will the team be the anchor tenant at this arena, which is imperative for sufficient revenue streams?

Seattle: no

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

In the meantime, is there a suitable place to play?

Seattle: we sort of have 75% of a suitable place to play

Quebec: it's old but it's still bigger than Winnipeg's barn

Advantage: Quebec

Would you happen to own your own RSN, a virtual necessity these days?

Seattle: maybe later

Quebec: yes

Advantage: Quebec

Can you say with certainty that the team will be a success there?

Seattle: Of course! As long as you don't make us suffer the growing pains of an expansion team, I mean I think we're a little too good for that, those hoser bastards will watch any old crap but we're Seattle

Quebec: bien sur!

Wait, did someone just speak :censored:ing French.

Seattle: Wasn't me.

Quebec: Hi didn't ear anyting.

QUEBEC LOSES BY FORFEIT

WINNER: SEATTLE BY A SCORE OF A MILLION TO NEGATIVE INFINITY

It's funny but it's also true. Seattle would have two very big advantages as far as the league is concerned. It's in the US, and it's not an almost entirely Francophone city that makes Montreal look like it's an English speaker's paradise.

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and it's not an almost entirely Francophone city that makes Montreal look like it's an English speaker's paradise.

Tell me about it. I've been to Quebec City a few times (business releated) and every time I go there I feel like I'm the only one speaking English. I had to learn French when I was in elemenatry school and High School but that was eons ago and I can proudly say I forgot each and every word I learned. So I literally feel like I'm a foreigner

in my own country whenever I go there.

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