Geoff Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Four letters that should end all debate:NIFL Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Sands Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It took two pages for this to come up?Maybe everyone else realized that as much as it's despised, it's nowhere near as bad as what's been posted already, hence, it doesn't belong here. But thanks for being that guy.You're that guy who doesn't know how to answer anything without being snarky and a wannabe moderator.Yes, it's very bad. Considering the resources and time put into it, the finished product and reaction are as bad as anything. It's a major-league logo done with major-league money, major-league technology, and major-league people, but that's the result. Pretty bad.Don't be a (censored) and a know-it-all, when I'm guessing you don't know (censored). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Holy . I think we have a winner.Yes, the Buffaslug sucks and the Ravens helmet logo has issues, but to choose those, you really ought to set it up with "worst of the major sports leagues". Because logos like this one and Canton Ice Patrol cannot be touched by the big leagues. Look at this and imagine if the Brooklyn Nets tried to use some variation of it; we'd be longing for their boring logo.Additionally, please think of this logo when you feel like logos need to be "fierce" or "intimidating". Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It took two pages for this to come up?Maybe everyone else realized that as much as it's despised, it's nowhere near as bad as what's been posted already, hence, it doesn't belong here. But thanks for being that guy.You're that guy who doesn't know how to answer anything without being snarky and a wannabe moderator.Yes, it's very bad. Considering the resources and time put into it, the finished product and reaction are as bad as anything. It's a major-league logo done with major-league money, major-league technology, and major-league people, but that's the result. Pretty bad.Don't be a (censored) and a know-it-all, when I'm guessing you don't know (censored).Imma just leave this right here:Buffalo Sabres Early Conceptual WorkI highly advise y'all read through this—ALL THE WAY through this—and then come back and re-read your posts. Might open some things up in your minds a little bit. *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It took two pages for this to come up?Maybe everyone else realized that as much as it's despised, it's nowhere near as bad as what's been posted already, hence, it doesn't belong here. But thanks for being that guy.You're that guy who doesn't know how to answer anything without being snarky and a wannabe moderator.Yes, it's very bad. Considering the resources and time put into it, the finished product and reaction are as bad as anything. It's a major-league logo done with major-league money, major-league technology, and major-league people, but that's the result. Pretty bad.Don't be a (censored) and a know-it-all, when I'm guessing you don't know (censored).Imma just leave this right here:Buffalo Sabres Early Conceptual WorkI highly advise y'all read through this—ALL THE WAY through this—and then come back and re-read your posts. Might open some things up in your minds a little bit.I've read that all the way through before. While it certainly lets you in on the processes and thoughts that went into the BuffaSlug's creation it ultimately doesn't make the logo any better. Easier to understand, perhaps, but not any better. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Your last sentence is precisely why I posted that link...so those who've not yet seen it (we've had quite the influx of n00bies around here lately ) can view it, and at least try to gain a better understanding of the process behind this stuff. Taste is subjective, of course—we all know that—and certain end products just ain't gon' be our cup of tea sometimes. Anyone's welcome to critique, but I think it's important to understand the process of it all...how it got to where it ended up, from what the original concept might've looked like. That's all that is. *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Oh I agree completely. That the Sabres wanted a "modern classic" like what the Houston Texans have certainly made me look at the BuffaSlug in a whole new light.My post wasn't directed at you so much as it was directed at people who insist that the logo suddenly becomes good once you understand the story behind it. I certainly appreciate the talent of the artist, understand the restraints he was working within, and I even see what he was trying to do. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Sands Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've read that whole piece and it's fascinating. It also shows what can happen when a logo comes from groupthink.It doesn't excuse the total lousiness of the logo, which all things considered, is in my opinion the worst logo in American sports history. I don't expect much from a crappy minor league team with zero budget, but the Buffalo Sabres are different. It doesn't matter who's at fault for the process behind the logo, just that it's an awful failure of a logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I've been going through some United States Basketball League team color sets...that league had some really bad graphics...this one in particular:You win. That thing is horrifying. GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If the Buffalo Bills did a similar logo, we would be calling it a good modernization. While I don't think the logo itself is bad, it just looks bad on a hockey sweater. On a football helmet it's really not that bad looking. Which I think lies the problem with the logo.^ I meant to quote this initially...anyway, here's a different version (I like this one better myself):This really doesn't look that bad and is a perfectly acceptable modernization of the Bills logo. so i conclude that it isn't necessarily a bad logo, just looked bad for the team and medium used.Good god that LI Surf logo is horrible. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddavid Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The Long Island Surf logo is a ghastly disaster! The Cincinnati Cyclones logo, the goalie, is easily the most poorly rendered logo in recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayne Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I've been going through some United States Basketball League team color sets...that league had some really bad graphics...this one in particular:You win. That thing is horrifying.+1 I'm Danny fkn Heatley, I play for myself. That's what fkn all stars do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksupilot Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 ...we gotta put an end to all these "these are my opinions, show me your opinions so we can fight and disagree!" threads...They've been done countless times before, and it's especially painful when the OP has only 8 posts...Completely disagree. They're some of the best threads on this site. And anyone should be able to post a new thread regardless of how many posts they have.I don't mind "themed" threads like "Favourite one-offs", but a flat-out "logos I don't like" thread is pretty predictable, redundant, and uninteresting to read.Then don't read it?Also, pretty much every logo to come out of the Federal Hockey League is the worst ever. http://www.sportslogos.net/teams/list_by_league/113/Federal_Hockey_League/N/logos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwing64 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Also, pretty much every logo to come out of the Federal Hockey League is the worst ever.http://www.sportslog...League/N/logos/There are some good ones there, like the Outlaws, but a lot of them really are stinkers. The Dayton Demonz name makes me cringe. PotD: 24/08/2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykton Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Four letters that should end all debate:NIFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joechicago Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Holy . I think we have a winner.Is the basketball eating the surf?So...your team is so awesome it's being readily consumed by a medium-sized rubber ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Holy . I think we have a winner.Is the basketball eating the surf?So...your team is so awesome it's being readily consumed by a medium-sized rubber ball?No, it's eating Long Island. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Example of the horribleness of NIFL logos: (Missouri is the "Show-Me" State) "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexWilson Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Holy . I think we have a winner.Is the basketball eating the surf?So...your team is so awesome it's being readily consumed by a medium-sized rubber ball?No, it's eating Long Island.didn't notice that at first glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 If the Buffalo Bills did a similar logo, we would be calling it a good modernization. While I don't think the logo itself is bad, it just looks bad on a hockey sweater. On a football helmet it's really not that bad looking. Which I think lies the problem with the logo.^ I meant to quote this initially...anyway, here's a different version (I like this one better myself):This really doesn't look that bad and is a perfectly acceptable modernization of the Bills logo. so i conclude that it isn't necessarily a bad logo, just looked bad for the team and medium used.thats about what i was going to say. i never thought of the Sabers logo as a bad one, ive always liked it. you see it on a football helmet and it looks pretty cool really. the reason that failed, IMO, is not because its not a well executed logo, or that it's a bad idea/concept, but its just that it wasnt the right thing for the right people. its a lesson in appropriateness.the reason we create identities is to be unique, to separate one thing from its competitors. the thing is though, not a lot of people want to be unique (regardless of what they might say) they actually want to fit in with everyone else, and thats why you have standard aesthetics from sport to sport; thats why it's hard to do something really forward thinking and fresh because you're going against the aesthetic of that niche's culture. so when creating a new mark, you usually see color and type being the only real thing that is new or different from the others. it's especially hard if the company being represented isnt willing to stand behind it and instead let their audience define them, rather than themselves finding an audience of like-minded people (which is brand building and it takes years to do). i guess thats not so wrong if you want to earn a lot of money (which keeps the team/business going) but it will never push design forward. GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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