Rays Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I don´t follow MLS so i was surprised to hear about the NY red bulls, i think it´s really strange the league agreed to the name change.......... and also, that drink is really bad for anyones health..Just reading about the drink on wiki: ."Red Bull GmbH is an Austrian company which sells the Red Bull energy drink. In 2011, a total of 4.631 billion cans were sold in over 161 countries.".Holy man ! they got alot of money i guess, but is anyone else upset about a team with a product name, what if a team was called the Big Mac´s ....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 it's a bit strange, but the "Red Bulls" has a nice sporting ring to it and feels much more acceptable than the "Big Macs". all soccer teams are corporate billboards anyway, so in the MLS maybe it's not so strange.i dont recommend anyone drink RedBull either but i love them as a brand. they don't spend a lot of money on traditional advertising trying to attract an audience, they know exactly who their audience is and they go directly to them. they sponsor all kinds of "extreme sport" events. they have a decent youtube channel where you can get a better feel for that. there's a lot to learn from that company from a marketing/branding standpoint. GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I think its stupid yeah, but I also can't stand how soccer kits have ads plastered on them anyway, so what can you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevs7 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 They agreed to do it because it makes sense. Even if they weren't sponsored by the drink, the name Red Bulls still works as a team name. Obviously they would be called like the New York Mcdonald's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Is this any dumber than a team being named after an owner? Cleveland Browns or Charlotte Bobcats are two examples. The Houston Astros are named after an industry. The Florida Panthers and Atlanta Thrashers are/were named after animals on the protected list. If it sounds good, who cares. Now I don't quite think Red Bulls sounds good, but hey, it could be worse, we could have the tough sounding Maple Leafs for a nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 it's a bit strange, but the "Red Bulls" has a nice sporting ring to it and feels much more acceptable than the "Big Macs". all soccer teams are corporate billboards anyway, so in the MLS maybe it's not so strange.i dont recommend anyone drink RedBull either but i love them as a brand. they don't spend a lot of money on traditional advertising trying to attract an audience, they know exactly who their audience is and they go directly to them. they sponsor all kinds of "extreme sport" events. they have a decent youtube channel where you can get a better feel for that. there's a lot to learn from that company from a marketing/branding standpoint. This. If it weren't for Red Bull's financial backing, a lot of the extreme sports events out there wouldn't exist. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I don´t follow MLS so i was surprised to hear about the NY red bulls, i think it´s really strange the league agreed to the name change.......... and also, that drink is really bad for anyones health..Just reading about the drink on wiki:."Red Bull GmbH is an Austrian company which sells the Red Bull energy drink. In 2011, a total of 4.631 billion cans were sold in over 161 countries.".Holy man ! they got alot of money i guess, but is anyone else upset about a team with a product name, what if a team was called the Big Mac´s ....LOLWe are in 2014, and you did not know how much revenue Red Bull has? Money talks...suckers walk.Per 'BrandMooreArt' and his comments, "60 Minutes" profiled them somewhat recently on their marketing.Plus, Philips and Bayer have been majority team owners for decades as well as the Japanese Baseball names already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Green Bay Packers anyone? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffa Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 New York Red Bulls aren't the only team to be afflicted with the name, though - the company owns a number of other teams around the world, including Austria's FC Red Bull Salzburg, Red Bull Brasil and Red Bull Ghana. They also own a German team, RB Leipzig - the rules in Germany prohibit the use of sponsor's full names as part of a club's playing name though, so they have to make do with the initials in this case. We have similar rules in England, they've been tested a few times over the years but fortunately we've held firm so far...Plus, Philips and Bayer have been majority team owners for decades as well as the Japanese Baseball names already mentioned. The circumstances of clubs such as PSV and Bayar Leverkusen is different, however - these started life as works clubs founded by company employees which later went professional, as opposed to the Red Bull clubs which were existing teams with established identities which were wiped out by the corporate brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I remember when the Grizzlies moved to Memphis they wanted to be called the Express since FedEx had something to do with the team but the NBA vetoed the name. It seemed odd to me since it wasn't the Memphis Federal Express but just the Memphis Express. Anyway, if the name works, use it I say. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 New York Red Bulls aren't the only team to be afflicted with the name, though - the company owns a number of other teams around the world, including Austria's FC Red Bull Salzburg, Red Bull Brasil and Red Bull Ghana. They also own a German team, RB Leipzig - the rules in Germany prohibit the use of sponsor's full names as part of a club's playing name though, so they have to make do with the initials in this case. We have similar rules in England, they've been tested a few times over the years but fortunately we've held firm so far...Plus, Philips and Bayer have been majority team owners for decades as well as the Japanese Baseball names already mentioned. The circumstances of clubs such as PSV and Bayar Leverkusen is different, however - these started life as works clubs founded by company employees which later went professional, as opposed to the Red Bull clubs which were existing teams with established identities which were wiped out by the corporate brand.And going professional, they became corporate with acceptance and did not incorporate themselves independently with another name.The OP made a comment on the product itself and its consumption. The OP was worried about Red Bull, but NPB teams, J-League teams some of which deal in questionable markets or in the case of Bayer, a chemical company with a long history and produces pesticides for grain seed for products we may eat every day, especially if you live in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Green Bay Packers anyone?But that's an occupation. I don't see it as being much different than 49ers or Cowboys. I know the Packers' history, and I know that sort of thing wouldn't fly today, but the end result is that they were named after an occupation instead of a specific product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Pinstripes Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Miami Hooters of the Arena League existed for a few seasons, they had the restaurant logo on a white helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Green Bay Packers anyone?But that's an occupation. I don't see it as being much different than 49ers or Cowboys. I know the Packers' history, and I know that sort of thing wouldn't fly today, but the end result is that they were named after an occupation instead of a specific product.They were named after the sponsoring company though. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgdmhl Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Green Bay Packers anyone?But that's an occupation. I don't see it as being much different than 49ers or Cowboys. I know the Packers' history, and I know that sort of thing wouldn't fly today, but the end result is that they were named after an occupation instead of a specific product.They were named after the sponsoring company though.Indian Packing Co (Name changed to ACME Packing Co) was the sponsor of the team after Curly Lambeau, who worked for the company, asked for some money to pay for uniforms. Curly got the money from Indian/ACME as long as the company name was on the uniforms. Indian/ACME Packers was on the uniforms until they stopped sponsoring the team. The "packers" became such a well known team, they kept "packers" on their uniforms and then later Packers officially became their team name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyraven8 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 EC Red Bulls Salzburg of the Austrian League.Only know them because Irbe played for them in 2005-06 [According to Wikipedia team has had the Red Bull name since 2000]. Couldn't resist posting an Irbe pic: "Just when I thought you'd said the stupidest thing, you keep on talking" - Hank Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I drank a Red Bull once and it gave me really scary heart palpitations. Admittedly, I was 12 at the time, but it's still nothing I'll ever touch again. Tastes like metal, and not the good kind like Black Sabbath. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gongofdoom Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 New York Red Bulls aren't the only team to be afflicted with the name, though - the company owns a number of other teams around the world, including Austria's FC Red Bull Salzburg, Red Bull Brasil and Red Bull Ghana. They also own a German team, RB Leipzig - the rules in Germany prohibit the use of sponsor's full names as part of a club's playing name though, so they have to make do with the initials in this case. We have similar rules in England, they've been tested a few times over the years but fortunately we've held firm so far...Plus, Philips and Bayer have been majority team owners for decades as well as the Japanese Baseball names already mentioned. The circumstances of clubs such as PSV and Bayar Leverkusen is different, however - these started life as works clubs founded by company employees which later went professional, as opposed to the Red Bull clubs which were existing teams with established identities which were wiped out by the corporate brand.And going professional, they became corporate with acceptance and did not incorporate themselves independently with another name.The OP made a comment on the product itself and its consumption. The OP was worried about Red Bull, but NPB teams, J-League teams some of which deal in questionable markets or in the case of Bayer, a chemical company with a long history and produces pesticides for grain seed for products we may eat every day, especially if you live in North America. You mean those pesticides which have been used for over 100 years and not only have said pesticides NOT killed millions or thousands or even hundreds of people here in the US, said pesticides have lengthened the average lifespan, which of course is a HORRIBLE thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-owns-iu Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Aside from the memphis express story, the grizzlies also considered louisville where kfc/tricon/yum were going to help finance the move with the stipulation being the team would be called kentucky colonels. The nba said it would have been allowed because such a team previously existed in the aba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 EC Red Bulls Salzburg of the Austrian League.Only know them because Irbe played for them in 2005-06 [According to Wikipedia team has had the Red Bull name since 2000]. Couldn't resist posting an Irbe pic:First thing I thought of too when the topic came up. And since you mentioned Archie, it makes sense to note that a large number of the Latvian Hockey League teams are named after corporations/general sponsors: Kurbads and Prizma - both Logistics/Transport companies, Monarch (I believe they operate small casinos), and in recent years SMSCredit. One of the leading soccer teams is also named after their founding sponsor Skonto (construction). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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