Naoned Pride Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Now I know this title might seem really mysterious, let me explain myself a little clearer with a brief (I swear) history of France, the country I live (in case you were wondering):After the abolition of the Kingdom in 1789 (Bastille, does that ring a bell ?), two sides opposed each other in politics: the Girondins, federalists and against a centralized state ; and the Montagnards, pro-centralization and welfare state, they fought for french language and cultural unity. Of course, the Montagnard won and abolished the Provinces (more or less equivalent to States in Federal republics) to create departments, often with no historical or cultural legimitacy. Later on, during WW2, Pétain decided to reinstate the provinces, but called it the Regions. The regions we have nowadays.Right now in France, politics are debating a major change in our country, which is slowly advancing towards federalism.Next year, it is scheduled to reduce the number of region. My city (Nantes) for exemple could move from Pays de la Loire (a region created out of nothing cultural and really despised by its inhabitants for its historical and cultural nonsense ; just imagine how new yorkers would react if we put NYC in the state of New Jersey !) to Brittany, its historic land it was stripped from during WW2. Needless to say, this is one of the hottest topics this year in France, everybody coming up with his version of french regions and maps.[Though I do not tend to make this thread a politically driven one (doesn't mean I'm not open to discussion !), I'll clear it out: I'm all for it, as I consider myself a federalist (especially on the cultural side of it, I'm all for cultural autonomy of regions, like in Spain for exemple).]So, what does it have to do with a concept thread ? Hear me out: What if the Girondins had won the political game in XVIIIth century ? We would be a federal republic, just like in the USA, Germany, Australia or Canada, and we'd have probably kept the Provinces at that time.Here's where my concept thread comes: I'll present to you a whole new French paysage, with Provinces (that I'll call Region, for a more-modern look) and modern cultural regions, their logos, modern flag, specific license plate, and other symbols based on the American system.Still following ? Allright, so here are the States of this Federal French Republic (42 regions): Alsace ; Angoumois ; Anjou ; Aquitaine ; Artois ; Aunis ; Auvergne ; Béarn ; Berry ; Bourbon ; Bourgogne ; Bretagne ; Catalogne ; Champagne ; Comtat Venaissin ; Corse ; Dauphiné ; Flandre ; Foix ; Franche Comté ; Ile de France ; Languedoc ; Limousin ; Lorraine ; Lyonnais ; Maine ; Marche ; Montbéliard ; Mulhouse ; Niçois ; Nivernais ; Normandie ; Orléanais ; Pays Basque ; Perche ; Picardie ; Poitou ; Provence ; Saintonge ; Savoie ; Touraine ; VendéeRegions in Red are those finished up to this date.The first ones will come very quickly ! Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'd assume Normandy, Brittany, and Burgundy would use the emblems and flags that they had been using long before the French kingdom incorporated them.EDIT-So Burgundy would probably go with their historical flag. The fleur-de-lis might offend republican sensibilities, but they're currently used by regional governments in Burgundy today, so I think they'd be fine. I can't think of any other emblem or flag Burgundy would use.Brittany might end up with their current flag......but the older version might have stuck around if it was adopted as a "state" flag earlier...Normandy has a few emblems to choose from. There's the two golden lions on red which serves as Normandy's traditional banner. Yet there's also a modified Nordic cross that Normans sometimes use, to symbolize the Normans' Nordic origins. It's a red Nordic cross outlined in gold on red. So I combined the two by putting the two lions in the Nordic cross' canton. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'd assume Normandy, Brittany, and Burgundy would use the emblems and flags that they had been using long before the French kingdom incorporated them.Not so sure, I know for a fact that Brittany and Normandy both have flags that were created and adopted during the XXth century. I'm planning to do that for most regions. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Well Normandy's two lions on red has been used for centuries. I tried to work it into the new Nordic cross flag in my post above. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Région Alsace Name: AlsaceEnglish name: AlsaceDemonym: AlsacianRegional language: AlsatianAlsatian name: ElsassPart of french territory since 1648Region of France since 1789 (reinstated in 1945)Capital city: StrasbourgRegional animal: StorkRegional colors: Red White GoldRegional sport: Association Football / Soccer Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'd assume Normandy, Brittany, and Burgundy would use the emblems and flags that they had been using long before the French kingdom incorporated them.EDIT-So Burgundy would probably go with their historical flag. The fleur-de-lis might offend republican sensibilities, but they're currently used by regional governments in Burgundy today, so I think they'd be fine. I can't think of any other emblem or flag Burgundy would use.Brittany might end up with their current flag......but the older version might have stuck around if it was adopted as a "state" flag earlier...Normandy has a few emblems to choose from. There's the two golden lions on red which serves as Normandy's traditional banner. Yet there's also a modified Nordic cross that Normans sometimes use, to symbolize the Normans' Nordic origins. It's a red Nordic cross outlined in gold on red. So I combined the two by putting the two lions in the Nordic cross' canton.Since this is a concept thread, I'll be clear: I'll rework on most flags, especially those displaying the fleur de lys, which is a symbol of Kingdom. These were not used until long after the French Revolution, as displaying a provincial flag was considered for royalists. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Région Angoumois Name: AngoumoisEnglish name: AngoumoisDemonym: AngoumosianPart of french territory since 1308Region of France since 1789Capital city: AngoulêmeRegional animal: HorseRegional colors: Red YellowRegional sport: Rugby UnionFamous people from the Region: François Mittérand (former french president from 1981 to 1995) Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clkgtramg Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 This in all awesome! Glad someone else is tackling license plates too! Can't wait to see Languedoc! US and World License Plate Redesign - Fixing the Elite Ice Hockey League - NHL to Soccer Crossover - European Hockey League Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 This in all awesome! Glad someone else is tackling license plates too! Can't wait to see Languedoc!Thanks man ! And yeah, I admit your thread kinda pushed me into doing plates lol. It's been a minor issue lately in France, because we generic license plates with the region logo on the far right section, and the government stated that it was legal to put any logo you wanted (provided its french in a way, like a flag of a province or the logo of a region you come from even if you don't live there anymore). Now, everyone went like nuts for some reason and license plates logo got sold like hell lately, everyone coming up with whatever they wanted.And for us in Nantes, which got stripped from its historical land of Brittany as I said, a lot of us put the Breton flag instead of our current regional logo, it might seem like nothing, but it's a good feeling to finally being able to put the Breton flag on our plate. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clkgtramg Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 may I ask what font you used for this? US and World License Plate Redesign - Fixing the Elite Ice Hockey League - NHL to Soccer Crossover - European Hockey League Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ashby.I'll be back on tracks very soon, I've been busy lately with my finals, but they are over now. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Région Anjou Name: AnjouEnglish name: AnjouDemonym: AnjolianPart of french territory since 1482Region of France since 1789Capital city: AngersRegional animal: MallardRegional colors: Blue RedRegional sport: BasketballFamous people from the Region: Joachim Du Bellay (XVIth century poet)Most popular sport team: Cholet Basket (Basketball) Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Région Aquitaine Name: AquitaineEnglish name: AquitaniaDemonym: AquitanianPart of french territory since 506Region of France since 1789 (Under two regions of Guienne and Gacony, reunited in 1956)Capital city: BordeauxRegional animal: LionRegional colors: Red WhiteRegional sport: Rugby UnionFamous people from the Region: Montesquieu (XVIIIth century author)Most popular sport team: Girondins de Bordeaux (A.Football) Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clkgtramg Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Really liking these so far. The only isue I have is the lack of material on the Anjou Flag. I would have tried to do something with the FDL in it or something. I do like how the colours in the License Plate don't bleed which tends to be a problem for Blue and Red. Aquitania is pretty clean, love the flag and the plate. US and World License Plate Redesign - Fixing the Elite Ice Hockey League - NHL to Soccer Crossover - European Hockey League Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Yes, some regions are gonna be pretty hard, giving most historic flags with FDL all look alike. For Anjou, I tried to play with the A letter, which seems to be some kind of a trademark for departments and the city of Angers.But as I stated before, I get rid of the fleur de lys, it really is not the symbol of France as many can think, it's a symbol of the French Kingdom. And keeping it on flags was unthinkable after the Revolution, which was against monarchy. Plus, it gives more room for creativity. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 Région Artois Name: ArtoisDemonym: ArtesianPart of french territory since 1659 (Taken from the Dutch)Region of France since 1789Capital city: ArrasRegional symbol: Gold CastleRegional colors: Blue Red BrownRegional sport: Association FootballMost popular sport team: RC Lens (A.Football) Région Aunis (In Red: Aunis)Name: AunisDemonym: AunisianPart of french territory since 1371 (formerly part of Aquitaine)Region of France since 1789Capital city: La RochelleRegional symbol: PartridgeRegional colors: Red GoldRegional sport: Rugby UnionMost popular sport team: Atlantique Stade Rochelais (Rugby) Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clkgtramg Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Wow, that Artois Historical Flag was busy, nice clean up. I really like this font too, may I ask what it is?Nice subtle clean up of Aunis as well US and World License Plate Redesign - Fixing the Elite Ice Hockey League - NHL to Soccer Crossover - European Hockey League Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Aquitaine is great PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thank you guys !Concerning the font, it's Drakoheart. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoned Pride Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Région Auvergne Name: AuvergneEnglish Name: AuverniaRegional language: OccitanRegional name: AuvernheDemonym: AuvernianUnder French Kingdom's authority since 1457Region of France since 1789Capital city: Clermont-FerrandRegional symbol: The GonfalonRegional colors: Red Green YellowRegional sport: Rugby UnionMost popular sport team: ASM Clermont Auvergne (Rugby Union, 1-time French champion, 10-time runner-up)Famous people from the Region: Blaise Pascal (XVIIth century mathematician) ; Georges Pompidou (French President from 1969 to 1974) Région BéarnName: BéarnEnglish Name: BearnRegional language: OccitanRegional name: BéarnDemonym: BearnianUnder French Kingdom's authority since 1620 (formerly a sovereign country)Region of France since 1789Capital city: PauRegional symbol: the CowRegional colors: Crimson Gold BlueRegional sport: Rugby UnionMost popular sport team: Section Paloise (Rugby Union ; 3-time French champion & 1-time European Challenge Winner)Famous people from the Region: Pierre Bourdieu (One of the most reknowned sociologists of the XXth century) ; Tony Estanguet (Three-times Olympic Gold Medalist in Canoeing) The Occitan cross has been added to the flag in the upper right corner. Where do I come from ? Who do I support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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