Muggens Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Does anyone want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/does-anyone-want-to-host-the-2022-winter-olympics-195531135.htmland also the reported problems with Rio 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think they'll eventually, especially for Winter, start having to let cities host multiple times. "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think they'll eventually, especially for Winter, start having to let cities host multiple times. Ummm...they already do. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS729 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think they'll eventually, especially for Winter, start having to let cities host multiple times. http://www.topendsports.com/events/winter/hosts/St. Moritz, Lake Placid, and Innsbruck have all hosted twice. (Although the second Innsbruck Olympics was only due to Denver's citizens vetoing the Olympics.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I should clarify. I mean hosting multiple times will be the norm (i.e. award the next 6 Winter Olympics to 3 cities and they each host twice). "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I should clarify. I mean hosting multiple times will be the norm (i.e. award the next 6 Winter Olympics to 3 cities and they each host twice). So double the debt for the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yes and no. Much of the cost comes in new facilities; hosting multiple times in a relatively short timeframe alleviates some of that. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 When three weeks ago the US rights for the Games for 2022-2032 go for $7.75billion, you are hardly dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 It's not just the Olympics. Throw the World Cup in as well. Both FIFA and the IOC pretty much are black balling proposals that use existing venues for those that have everything built from scratch to placate their egos. Hence why Qatar won over England. Of course, that doesn't factor in fancy hotel rooms for brass, bribes, etc.If there's going to be any reform, it should start with a requirement that new construction have a post event plan associated with it to prevent cities from being bankrupted with white elephant decrepit showpieces. We know that'll never happen though.Additionally, the decreasing amount of first world cities willing to pony up or that haven't hosted before is pretty significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If there's going to be any reform, it should start with a requirement that new construction have a post event plan associated with it to prevent cities from being bankrupted with white elephant decrepit showpieces. We know that'll never happen though. The Qatari bid stated that the stadiums would be disassembled and given/sold to third world countries once the tournament was done. Yes, Archimedes losing his goes here, but that's how your policy can be thwarted. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggens Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 When three weeks ago the US rights for the Games for 2022-2032 go for $7.75billion, you are hardly dying.As a television entity of course not. Ratings will always be high for certain sports as well. But as the article pointed out I think we will see less of a variety of cities applying for the games because of the massive debt that will mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 When three weeks ago the US rights for the Games for 2022-2032 go for $7.75billion, you are hardly dying. As a television entity of course not. Ratings will always be high for certain sports as well. But as the article pointed out I think we will see less of a variety of cities applying for the games because of the massive debt that will mount. The Turkish Constitution has language which is directly taken from the Olympic Charter, so they will always bid unless that is changed. After multiple bids for Istanbul, they will most likely use Ankara next. Since no primarily Muslim nation has won IOC bidding, one or more will still try to be the first to host and you still have sub-Saharan Africa out there too. As long as countries have sport as a national position (ministry/cabinet), there will be bidders.The tv contract which was accepted before a bidding process illustrates the money is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I suspect the Winter Olympics, which are far more specialized and "niche" are in far more danger than the Summer Olympics. Perhaps its time to revert to having one country bid for both. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 When three weeks ago the US rights for the Games for 2022-2032 go for $7.75billion, you are hardly dying. As a television entity of course not. Ratings will always be high for certain sports as well. But as the article pointed out I think we will see less of a variety of cities applying for the games because of the massive debt that will mount. The Turkish Constitution has language which is directly taken from the Olympic Charter, so they will always bid unless that is changed. After multiple bids for Istanbul, they will most likely use Ankara next. Since no primarily Muslim nation has won IOC bidding, one or more will still try to be the first to host and you still have sub-Saharan Africa out there too. As long as countries have sport as a nationalposition (ministry/cabinet), there will be bidders.This is the problem. When nations that are unable to realistically host attempt to do just that. Call me a first world chauvinist if you want, but good G-d. Russia's cluster and Brazil's inability to be ready on time for the World Cup should be enough to convince FIFA and the IOC that these events are better off being placed in the first world. Not to mention that Brazil probably won't be ready for the Summer Olympics by 2016? And that the Qatari bid was partially based on technology that has yet to be invented?Now you're talking about sub-Saharan Africa? That's going to be a gong show anywhere but South Africa. I mean blah blah blah world community blah blah blah but the ability of first world countries to host these things without the massive headaches the Russias, Brazils and Qatars bring to the process should readily apparent. Sure, a bribe from Putin or a petroleum-rich Middle Eastern city-state is nice, but your organization is going to turn into a laughing stock when these locations fail in their duties as hosts for your event. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I haven't ruled out Euro soccer fan-induced regime change come 2022 if Qatar is still the host, though. So some good may come from it. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This is why I'm so surprised that Squaw Valley, California had their bid rejected so early. The Reno-Tahoe area would love to host another Olympic games, and they have a big chunk of their infrastructure already complete when it comes to accessable resorts and hotel accomodations. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 This is why I'm so surprised that Squaw Valley, California had their bid rejected so early. The Reno-Tahoe area would love to host another Olympic games, and they have a big chunk of their infrastructure already complete.That's the problem. The IOC wants brand new shrines to their magnificence for the aliens to discover 10,000 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The United States Olympic Committee has selected Boston as its representative in bidding to secure the right to play host to the 2024 Olympic Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The United States Olympic Committee has selected Boston as its representative in bidding to secure the right to play host to the 2024 Olympic Games. So the USOC is acknowledging the US will never host another Olympiad. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Why is the U.S even bothering? I was surprised to see it mentioned in the NFL relo thread that four cities were angling for it. Including Oaktown.Thought we were smarter than this. Or maybe I've been jaded since Chicago lost and I realized moments later what stress it saved me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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