Needschat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Baseball:Orlando SunraysThis wasn't an MLB expansion possibility, but a AA Southern League team from the early 90s. The franchise currently resides in Montgomery, AL as the Biscuits.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_RaysEdit: My bad, read the link.Thanks for the oops. The MLB expansion candidate was backed by the original Orlando Magic owners, with Pat Williams as the front man. Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGameBob Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Back in the 90's I read in the news that the NHL might expand to New Orleans. I wish that happened so much.... I can't explain how much I want that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smzimbabwe Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 In 1974, the NFL announced the formation of the Intercontinental Football League. There were to be 6 teams in the inaugural season of 1975, followed by a 4 team expansion bringing the league to 10 in 1976. It never materialized, but it was the NFL's first thought about going international. The original 6 were to be the Barcelona Almogovares, Berlin Bears, Istanbul Conquerors, Munich Lions, Rome Gladiators, and Vienna Lipizzaners. The expansion 4 were to be the Copenhagen Vikings, Milan Centurions, Paris Lafayettes, and Rotterdam Flying Dutchmen.As a fan of the original WLAF, I would have liked to see this pulled off, though I really wasn't paying too much attention to football (or any other sports) at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Back in the 90's I read in the news that the NHL might expand to New Orleans. I wish that happened so much.... I can't explain how much I want that to happen.Hey, I'm glad you're a hockey fan, but that's a hysterically awful idea. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGameBob Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Back in the 90's I read in the news that the NHL might expand to New Orleans. I wish that happened so much.... I can't explain how much I want that to happen.Hey, I'm glad you're a hockey fan, but that's a hysterically awful idea. Back in the 90's I read in the news that the NHL might expand to New Orleans. I wish that happened so much.... I can't explain how much I want that to happen.This is the Bettman-era NHL though. For all we know the Flames or Islanders may move down to Nola if an expansion team doesn't arrive there firstLook at the old IceGators, the Brass, and the Kingfish's attendance. Pretty solid except for BR's last few years. EDIT: I don't mean it'd be a good idea but it COULD possibly work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yeah, lots of ECHL/SPHL/god-knows-what-L teams have "pretty solid attendance" because tickets are cheap and you get to watch a bunch of dudes whale on each other. A climatically and economically volatile southern city wouldn't be my first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, or eleventh choice. But hey, never let it be said that you're worse than Brownsville! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yeah, the IceGators numbers were impressive, but would have been fatal at the NHL level. And the Brass could only pull in 6000 their best year. It's a moot point, though. New Orleans is too broke to afford a team regardless of the inherent stupidity of the local city fathers. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGameBob Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yeah, lots of ECHL/SPHL/god-knows-what-L teams have "pretty solid attendance" because tickets are cheap and you get to watch a bunch of dudes whale on each other. A climatically and economically volatile southern city wouldn't be my first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, or eleventh choice. But hey, never let it be said that you're worse than Brownsville!Hey man I was just defending my city and state.11,000 screaming fans back in the day in Lafayette. 6,000 in NOLA and BR. Yeah, the IceGators numbers were impressive, but would have been fatal at the NHL level. And the Brass could only pull in 6000 their best year.It's a moot point, though. New Orleans is too broke to afford a team regardless of the inherent stupidity of the local city fathers.We're on the rise, but still I'm a homer and just defending my city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I was there last summer. I assume you mean "rise" in the cliche "the South will rise again" sense. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGameBob Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I was there last summer. I assume you mean "rise" in the cliche "the South will rise again" sense.....No I do not mean that.We are doing much better than the years right after the hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 St. Louis Stallions. Liked the colors. Hated the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGameBob Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Also I have family in OKC and they were I'm the final five for an NHL team when ATL, NSH, MIN, and CBJ got teams. I think OKC would've done better than Atlanta and possibly better than Columbus or Naahville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Also I have family in OKC and they were I'm the final five for an NHL team when ATL, NSH, MIN, and CBJ got teams. I think OKC would've done better than Atlanta and possibly better than Columbus or Naahville.No way, especially if the Thunder would end up playing there anyways. OKC is at max a 1-team city, especially during the same timeMaybe if the hockey team had been there for 10 years and was doing well, it would have scared off another winter-spring team from playing there. If there was a fairly successful hockey team there in 2005, I wonder if the Hornets Pelicans? still would have played there post-Katrina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave721 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Canadian Football.....in Floridaand competing directly with an NFL franchise nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Zephyr III Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Canadian Football.....in Florida...Surely you jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 In 1974, the NFL announced the formation of the Intercontinental Football League. There were to be 6 teams in the inaugural season of 1975, followed by a 4 team expansion bringing the league to 10 in 1976. It never materialized, but it was the NFL's first thought about going international. The original 6 were to be the Barcelona Almogovares, Berlin Bears, Istanbul Conquerors, Munich Lions, Rome Gladiators, and Vienna Lipizzaners. The expansion 4 were to be the Copenhagen Vikings, Milan Centurions, Paris Lafayettes, and Rotterdam Flying Dutchmen.I've never, ever heard of this. Source?My favorite expansion that never happened I suppose would be the entire Continental League, which Branch Rickey & Co. would have unleashed on professional baseball in the early 1960's had the American and National Leagues not eliminated the potential competition by expanding to New York, Houston, Los Angeles and (de facto) Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 In 1974, the NFL announced the formation of the Intercontinental Football League. There were to be 6 teams in the inaugural season of 1975, followed by a 4 team expansion bringing the league to 10 in 1976. It never materialized, but it was the NFL's first thought about going international. The original 6 were to be the Barcelona Almogovares, Berlin Bears, Istanbul Conquerors, Munich Lions, Rome Gladiators, and Vienna Lipizzaners. The expansion 4 were to be the Copenhagen Vikings, Milan Centurions, Paris Lafayettes, and Rotterdam Flying Dutchmen. I've never, ever heard of this. Source?http://www.footballgeography.com/1974-nfl-announces-plans-for-a-six-team-european-league/. Download the PDF at the bottom of the page. It is a 7 page read and is pretty detailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidellias Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Canadian Football.....in Florida...Surely you jest.There's a Joke about Snowbirds here. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Milwaukee would have gotten a NHL team in the 80s if Dollar Bill/the Blackhawks hadn't vetoed it. I would have liked to see that.This. Although I root for the Hawks in the playoffs when pitted against a non-Original Six team, I'm still reluctant to consider them my team for this reason.Milwaukee was also a candidate for an AFL expansion team in the 1960s, but the Packers objected and it became a sticking point for the merger. It sure would've been interesting to see how a Milwaukee AFC team would've fared during the Packers' lean years of the 1970s and 1980s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smzimbabwe Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Not so much an expansion, but before they came up with indemnity payments to NFL teams in the same markets, the Oakland Raiders were rumored to head to Portland, and the New York Jets to Birmingham, before it was decided to have them pay the 49ers and Giants some extra cash for infringing on their markets. I know in the mid to late 60s, there was a strong push in Portland to build the Delta Dome for baseball and football, but was eventually voted down. Wonder if Seattle would have gotten the Pilots, Mariners, or Seahawks had Portland already had MLB and NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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