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Not a patch moron...direct embroidery...and to every one of you out there. The numbers were not "bubbly" when I got it ...it was 6 years of wear and tear. You you guys could not tell a fake from a real one if it hit you in the nose. And NOT a single one of you own a "real" jersey unless you got it from the locker rooms...they are all replicas...some cost $300 and some cost $20 and they are made by the same people on the same production line in China or S. Korea. And you can argue IP theft all you want. But when you do...make sure you never photocopied a page from a text book, or downloaded a song from the net...or copied a song off a friends CD. Quit trying to justify dropping a half a car payment on a shirt then realizing ... I could have gotten the same for $20. This was in response to a post about how they "fall apart in the wash"...BULL ! And I wanna see a NFL locker room jersey that has been washed 180 times and worn for 6 years. Guess what...they don't exist...because they all get new ones every season. And I want ONE...just ONE of you to post a "authentic" Ravens jersey that is 6 years old...with 180 washes....and let's compare. I doubt it will happen...because it would look just like this one...and you will have proven my point. So please...anyone of you post your 6 year old well worn $250-300 jersey on here, and lets just see the quality over time...because this is what it was all about.

About the only thing I noticed was the inside collar where in would say NFL Authentic on the silver tape is worn...but for a shirt that has 180 wearings and 181 washings...I washed it 1 time before I wore it. I would say for $20 it has held up well for 6 years.

6 year old $20 Chinese Ravens Jersey...worn 25-30 times a year every year.

Not that I care one way or another what you do with your money. I'll tell you that if you like details you will probably not be happy with the Freeman jersey. The ship patches on the arms of the fake ones look really bad. You can easily tell they're a fakes, which might not be a big deal what other people think, but it would bother me personally that they look so bad. The Buccaneers scrips on the center chest usually looks really bad too. You can get away with fakes with teams like the Packers and Colts and Raiders, teams like that. But with detailed patches and scripts like the Bucs, that is when you can really tell the poor quality. Well my Ray Lewis jersey is 6 years old now, gets worn every game day and quite a few other days. I have out grown it, so the lovely wears it quite a bit now. And it has held up great...aside from a few wing stains and some BBQ spots on the front is is a great shirt and a better value. Piracy and IP theft caused the music industry to reign in the prices of the CD's and DVD's I hope this does the same. And I will even post pictures of what a 6 year old Chinese knock off looks like...

I am guessing to be consistent most of you are also in support of SOPA and PIPA as well. I mean IP is IP after all.

Somebody got time? I thought we were told there is no legal issue here? I don't think there's isn't a legal issue. I think the point is that a lot of people just don't think it's a "crime" that should necessarily be given so much attention. People break the law everyday, hell, you break the law everyday, though you don't like to admit it. So speeding and intentionally violating intellectual property laws are equally as bad? I'm sure you probably think jay walking and murder are on the same page too, eh? There's a reason we have "misdemeanors" and "felonies".... That is quite a leap saying that violating IP laws and murder are the same. To me it is more like prostitution, more of a moral issue. So far not one of you defending the IP view on this has shown any examples of a designer getting paid less because they are making counterfeit jerseys in China. And so far no one here has posted how the loss of revenue because of the sale of counterfeit jerseys as affected the income of the big 4 leagues. And so far no one has posted how the only reason a "authentic" NFL jersey is worth $300 is because of the existence of counterfeit jerseys. Actually there are no "authentic" jerseys for sale in any store on line or at the mall, because unless it is game worn and taken from the locker room it is just a replica. So we are arguing over levels of quality in a replica jersey, and whether there should be a monopoly on $300 jerseys. Look if a company in china can make money selling a jersey for $20, just imagine how much money is being made by selling the same jersey for $300. And I bet most of you all were pro Occupy folks as well, yet have no issue with the leagues ripping of the masses in the name of "authenticity". Oh and how many of you call the cops on your friends or neighbors smoking or selling weed?

Well to the Chinese all white people look alike.

Oh the irony...the Chinese are getting upset over counterfeit merchandise from...CHINA!

Nevermind...I should have checked the site first. I am not an NBA fan, but I had never seen that before.

What the hell is THIS!

Hell yeah. Although I've never been too big of a fan of taking recolored old logos and calling it new...this was nice and is still better than their current logo, mainly because of the fact that I dig the fact that there are actually pistons in the logo. It was the perfect upgrade to the "Bad Boys" Pistons identity, both in logo & uniforms. Too bad they had to ruin it by updating the boring logo from back then and somehow making it bland & adding that red alternate for a couple of years. That was a mess, IMO. Am I missing something. I see a horse, flames,basketball a wordmark and a tail pipe. Where are the pistons?

Hated the original Ravens logo. Loved the "Burger King" kings look. I always wonder how that would have looked in black. Loved Cooperalls. Come on who plays on ice with short pants? Thought the Michigan Panthers, Jacksonville Bulls and Pittsburgh Maulers were some of the best football helmets ever. Hate the Penn State football uniform. Loved the Will Clark era SF away jerseys. Love the Caps...Hate both the original and current logos. Logoless football helmets are dumb at every level. Sorry but the powder blue Chargers jerseys are crap.

@ tj4eck- That is a good as any set up. But there is no reason to keep Penn State in the Great Lakes. They should slide into the Northeast of the Eastern. It isn't like they have real tradition with the Big 10 schools.

And according to the Baltimore SUN via the ChiTrib the University of MARYLAND is being considered for the Big 10. WHAT! If anything I would think WVU, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse would jump to the ACC. That they would not lose MD.

I always wondered if Ford did not own Jaguar at the time would the Jacksonville Jaguars would have been forced to change. I am guessing probably not. Hell I bet if Ford did not own the Lions the Jags would have been able to keep the logo.