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  1. Does anybody know what font is being used to display "Los Angeles" right above Good Morning America At The Oscars?
  2. Thanks, glenn. I couldn't tell if it was a modified version of those fonts, because the green really bleeds into the blue.
  3. Hey, guys. I know this isn't the best picture, but can someone tell me the font (numbers and the captain's C) that's used on this prototype jersey? If anyone had a vector image of the entire font that would be even better. Thanks.
  4. Would somebody please tell me what kind of numbers do the Blue Bombers use?
  5. Then that means it's a slam-dunk for Gary Bettman to relocate the Phoenix Coyotes there, am I right?
  6. Here's an article from the Seattle Times backing this up http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nba/2015487119_arena02.html & a news broadcast as well http://www.kirotv.com/news/28423790/detail.html Interesting, but I really don't see any relocation happening, until the actual arena is build and ready for both leagues. KeyArena is definitely not an option, even if on a temporary basis, for either the NBA or NHL.
  7. I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not debating pro hockey's viability in Houston in the past. I'm debating its viability in the present. The Aeros are long gone. Any NHL team in Houston, even if they use the Aeros name, will have to start from scratch. They'd have to compete with the Rockets for fans, ticket sales, merchandise sales, tv ratings, and local corporate dollars. The Rockets, being the more entrenched of the two teams, would have a marked advantage in all of these areas. Um, what? I mean, I know what you're getting at (the loss of the WHA Aeros) but it's not like there isn't a current team that's top-10 in the AHL in attendance named Aeros playing an an NHL-ready rink right now (Toyota Center opened in 2003 with 17,000 seats for hockey). Um, yeah. Houston hasn't seen top tier pro hockey since the WHA went under. Saying that the AHL Aeros' success is proof of 1) the market and 2) that a Houston NHL team wouldn't have to start from scratch doesn't hold water. The differences between an AHL presence and an NHL presence are too great. This is the type of thinking that put teams in Miami, Atlanta, and Phoenix. The "potential" for media and corporate dollars has led to the NHL sunbelt madness to begin with. It's time to turn away from "potential" markets and refocus on markets that actually care about hockey. Seattle, Milwaukee, and Quebec City should all be considered before Houston. There's one huge issue with those markets you mentioned, Ice. While they're more natural a fit for hockey than Houston, I seriously doubt the NHL would move to a city that doesn't have a decent arena to support the product, compared to Houston. If they did, then yes, I'd put all three of them over Houston, but as it stands they could probably benefit not only from the NBA lockout, but looking to put some exhibition games in Houston, featuring the Stars vs. another team. I mean, I would imagine holding some games there would be more feasible than a regular season opener in Prague.
  8. I think you misunderstood my point. I'm not debating pro hockey's viability in Houston in the past. I'm debating its viability in the present. The Aeros are long gone. Any NHL team in Houston, even if they use the Aeros name, will have to start from scratch. They'd have to compete with the Rockets for fans, ticket sales, merchandise sales, tv ratings, and local corporate dollars. The Rockets, being the more entrenched of the two teams, would have a marked advantage in all of these areas. Um, what? I mean, I know what you're getting at (the loss of the WHA Aeros) but it's not like there isn't a current team that's top-10 in the AHL in attendance named Aeros playing an an NHL-ready rink right now (Toyota Center opened in 2003 with 17,000 seats for hockey). The rest of your premise is correct - that they'll have to battle with the Rockets for market share - but, and this is a big but, they are also in a top-10 media market in this country with a track-record for supporting hockey. It's not like putting a third team in Atlanta, or replacing a failing Coyotes team with another franchise. I honestly think Houston could give it a go, if, and only if, the NHL put some contingencies on it, like they did in Winnipeg. And that may be the new norm - guaranteeing a certain level of ticket sales. Maybe not as high a level as the 'Peg was required to support, but maybe a place like Houston would be required to sell 7,000 season tickets with 1-3 year commitments. Okay, I agree mostly with the first part of what you're saying, but Sodboy makes a point. You have to prove that for the first few years that such a market could support the team. 7,000 tickets is quite low, and while holding Houston to Winnipeg's standards is rather unfair (American vs. Canadian market, 3 existing professional teams compared to none for Winnipeg until recently), if they could guarantee maybe 13,000 season tickets, with 3-5 year commitments (because Houston has a much larger pool of corporate sponsors than Winnipeg), that could be a much more reasonable agreement. Obviously, Houston could be classified as a non-traditional market, but I'd rather give them a try, along with Milwaukee, possibly Portland/Seattle, or even Quebec, than keep a team in Phoenix (failed market) or try again in Atlanta. Some quick comparisons... Manitoba averaged 8,404 fans per game during the regular season, while Houston averaged 6,326 fans per game during the regular season. That's 2nd and 8th respectively. Obviously, Winnipeg will shatter those marks this coming year, and oh, by the way, Milwaukee averaged 5,796 fans per game, 11th overall, and behind Houston. Like I said, there's potential there, and obviously I would imagine it would be an easier sell, professional hockey, compared to minor-league hockey.
  9. Milwaukee's DMA is smaller than Pittsburgh's, but I think that's a bit deceptive because... unlike the Bucks... an NHL club could realistically expect to draw significant TV viewership (and on the weekends, attendance) from Madison and Green Bay/Appleton. As far as the economy, it's not exactly bustling, but it is quite stable (stable being a highly relative term by today's standards, of course). The rapid job loss that characterized Milwaukee in the 80s and 90s plateaued in the 2000s and there has been some small, but notable job growth in the healthcare and alternative energy industries. In fact, Milwaukee has quietly become a player in the former due to the presence of Aurora and Covenant. Now, Milwaukee/Wisconsin is definitely NOT a 4-sport market. Had we gotten an NHL team in the early 90s, the Bucks would likely have moved by now. But the fact that the Bucks, can still pull middle-of-the-road attendance with next to no community presence and as pathetic as they've been in recent memory is proof that this is indeed a 3-sport market. All that said, I think we can hold off on the NHL-to-Milwaukee speculation at least until the Senator announces he's looking for a buyer for the Bucks (which may happen soon since he's retiring next year). I think you're right on all counts. I think Milwaukee would be a great NHL market, but it would come at the expense of the Bucks. Then again, Wisconsin has a proud and rich Civil War tradition, so if Columbus doesn't want the Blue Jackets there's a home out there where they wouldn't even have to change the name. I honestly don't think the general populace of Milwaukee and the surrounding area would mind trading a basketball team for a hockey team, and it would probably be wildly successful and definitely sustainable through the down years, much like the Minnesota Wild. A possible division of Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Milwaukee, Minnesota, Nashville, and St. Louis would be awesome.
  10. Whoops, worded that incorrectly there. My mistake I had a couple more windows open, and had to re-read what had gotten posted, anywho... Actually the Aeros were extremely well-supported when they were in Houston, more so than the Rockets, though the Rockets took a long time to get good. Even with their NBA Finals run in 1981, fans didn't start coming until the Hakeem and Ralph era of the mid-1980's. One of the main reasons for the Aeros not merging with the NHL which would later lead to the Molson Boycott by the Canadian cities like Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Quebec that were trying to get into the league, was the initial merger agreement in 1977. As a result, during the merger discussions it was revealed that those three cities would be included, as would other hockey teams, instead of an earlier proposal that could've guaranteed those three cities, as well as Cincinnati, Hartford, and Houston all a spot at the table. Basically it was proposal initially made by then-commissioner Ziegler, and later stated by Cincinnati Stingers owner Bill DeWitt Jr. When Harold Ballard and some of the other owners he was close with, voted down that proposal, which would be a key in triggering the boycott, some the folks with both leagues with detailed information of the negotiations told the Aeros owner Kenneth Schnitzer the final team would be the New England/Hartford Whalers instead of the club in Houston, he basically told both leagues to go themselves and soon attendance plummeted with this news and he closed up shop the following year. He also tried to ask that the Aeros be put in as a pure expansion franchise or to relocate another failing club to Houston to replace the WHA Houston Aeros, but once again the NHL refused.
  11. At this point I think the ship has sailed for Houston. Going along with my "the NHL should avoid markets with established NBA teams" theory a NHL organization in Houston would have to compete with the Rockets for fans, ratings, merchandise sales, and corporate dollars. EDIT: For accuracy and completeness purposes, please refer to the following post about the Houston Aeros.
  12. Naturally, Milwaukee would do well in the NHL. I would imagine it would be an instant success like the Minnesota Wild, but the main problem is the Bradley Center, which is quite dated for an arena built in 1988. It's not aged well, and I'm not sure if the city of Milwaukee, much less the state of Wisconsin has any plans to fund and build an arena in the near future.
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