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Haha, I had a feeling someone was going to point out a smaller D1 sport they were good at

Maybe. But I've also heard that with basically every single uniform unveil on this site. Fact of the matter is, jersey sales always skyrocket right after an unveil because people want the new jersey. The actual popularity of a jersey is never measured by first day sales, but by how long the jersey sticks around. If these are still the jersey in 25 years it means the sales are strong enough where they don't feel the need to change. But history has repeatedly shown that most of these jerseys that are supposedly the next big thing disappear after 5-7 years. Seattle's the main exception and that almost certainly is paired with the team having its best stretch with those uniforms.

Love the deceptive phrasing here by using sold out incorrectly. This also isn't actually impressive. They said the exact same thing with the terrible 2015 Browns jerseys too as though it meant anything other than fans will buy new jerseys.

Yeah, I think the premise that they're the [insert power 5 school nickname] of college hockey is the issue. Denver's really more like a Villanova or Gonzaga just with more national titles. They're phenomenal at one sport but not at all present in the top levels of D1 at anything else, while UConn, Duke, and UNC are all power 5 schools. I'm not sure I'd trust the average fan to know what Nova or Zags' mascot despite both being hyper generic. Honestly, it really all comes down to the fact that football is the truly important sport for fan knowledge. The top level FBS schools are the ones everyone knows and everyone else is a crapshoot.

Is every single NHL team from now on going to have a "regional" nickname that has literally nothing to do with the region? And before anyone jumps in and says it is regional, the Yeti myth has nothing to do with the American mountain region, it's not the same as bigfoot/sasquatch. It would be like a team calling themselves the Utah Himalayan Brown Bears because they're a bear so they're the basically same thing as a Grizzly.

There are actually some benefits to doing it the way you mention in the bolded part (I honestly do it both ways depending on the circumstances), but when drawing the loops that way it just requires a bit more care and attention to get right. Oh, I forgot to mention earlier, the advice with the flowing vertexes doesn't necessarily apply to the letter E. I've found in some cases having the letter flow works well, but in others you will actually want a corner in there. This is mostly just a stylistic decision that will depend on the rest of the script.

Man, this is the first time in awhile where the "it looks like an XFL/group of 5 college/high school/video game create a team" comments are actually right on the money.

There are a few things I'm noticing looking at your scripts that I think will help a lot. First, and this is a general good practice, is to try to have as few anchor points as possible in your line work. The fewer points you have, the fewer opportunities for the logo to have unsightly kinks and bends in the shape. You'd be surprised at the complexity of shapes that can actually be made with so few anchors. For example, take a look at the image I drew below. The cursive S on the left is made with only 4 anchor points, now it's not great, but with only two extra anchor points in the right spots, I was able to make a really clean looking cursive S with only 6 points. Obviously if you're doing shapes instead of strokes, you'll have more anchors, but the principal is the same. On your design, the difference is really noticeable between your S and your T. My second tip would be to really pay attention to the vertexes of where the stroke crosses over itself. The S is once again the best example of this. In a script logo we're mimicking pen real life strokes of pen strokes. Using a slightly altered S below, see how where the S crosses over itself, the outlines still naturally flow into one another? Making sure that the flow of your lines is consistent even through those portions will make your letters look a lot more like natural strokes. Finally, one of the things I've struggled with a bit is making sure that the inner loop and outer loop are consistent. They don't need to be the exact same curve, but they should be generally the same shape (Note, this applies to all the letters, the S is just the easiest example to work with). On your S, the inner loop is almost a triangle, while the outer loop is a lot more rounded which makes the shape awkward in a few places. Really focusing on making those portions look more cohesive will drastically improve the quality and really get you to the place you want to be with the design. Also, I hope this advice doesn't come across overly harsh. There's definitely a lot of potential here and I think you're a few tweaks away from having a really great design.

Not necessarily, if the image from earlier (added below for convenience) is in fact the black jersey, then it's pretty clearly paired with either blue or silver pants. Obviously, they can decided to go with all black if they do in fact have black pants, but the image (assuming this is the black jersey) suggests they at least intend to wear it with different color pants.

Recently Aston Villa has undergone a crest redesign that can only be described as a complete and utter debacle. For those out of the loop. Since the 2000s Aston Villa has worn an honestly pretty bad light blue crest with a yellow lion, pictured below on the left. Its color scheme is a textbook example of the concept of contrasting colors and why you should use them. Last season, the club decided it was time to make a change and gave fans the option to vote for two honestly also pretty bad crests. The fans voted on the logo in the middle, which was an attempt to return to their 1980s crest, but without any of the charm. It also led many fans to claim it looked too close to Chelsea's design, which I don't necessarily agree with. However, this logo merely revives the worst, and most generic crests the team has ever worn. Then, after all the backlash, Aston Villa scrapped the new design and a leak of a new new crest which ultimately is just a worse version of the crest that they had all along. Since nobody at the club seems to have any idea what they're doing, I've decided to fix it for them. My version of the crest is designed to complete the following goals: Keep the 2000s era shield. Roundels are boring and overplayed. Just because social media websites use circles doesn't mean everyone needs to design their logos to fit snug inside them. The shield design helps Aston Villa avoid the spurious Chelsea comparisons, gives some continuity between designs, and has historical precedent. Claret and Blue as the primary colors. I achieved this by looking to the club's iconic jersey. The popular maroon and light blue jersey design originated with Aston Villa, so I incorporated that design on the shield with two light blue vertical stripes. This also has the added effect of referencing the crest designs of the 1970s and 90s through early 2000s, which featured a series of claret and blue vertical stripes. Retain the Redesigned Lion, but in Yellow. The lion from the first redesign is actually great. It reminds me a lot of the Detroit Lions redesign and how it only improved on a logo that was a bit of a blob. However, I made a few changes. First, the lion is flipped to face the left, matching basically every crest the club has ever worn. The lion also returns to yellow since it provides excellent contrast with the design so long as it has the claret outline to prevent blending with the light blue. Use the Full Team Name and Slogan. Another issue brought up in the redesign was the use of AVFC. Many fans felt that using Aston Villa would be more helpful in actually identifying the team. I also wanted to bring back the team's slogan "prepared" that had graced the crests for decades and quite frankly is more interesting and unique than the team's founding year. The final result was the logo above, which I believe updates the team's crest in a unique way while also maintaining historical elements that fans of the club would appreciate. I'd love to hear what you all think!

They're also both clearly AI, which makes sense as they just look like every esports logo on behance but rendered sloppily when looked at for more than 3 seconds.

So, looking like the northwestern stripe is staying on the helmet but with white, and unfortunately no pants stripes

Yeah, non-full spectrum lighting makes it difficult to tell things apart for humans. In some instances a color doesn't even need to actually be darker to appear darker in the correct lighting. This quote is an excuse to post one of my favorite youtube videos.

Yeah, it's probably black. Under blue lighting (assuming it's true RGB blue) a blue jersey almost certainly wouldn't get that dark. Red would look considerably darker under blue light (depending on the shade), and would have historical precedent, but come on, that's not happening. In theory the green in honolulu blue would make it darker under blue light but I can't imagine it would be that dark. So that leaves black or an uber darkhorse navy blue, which would also have historically precedence. But like red, I can't imagine the Lions ownership would ever go in that direction when black is on the table. Of course, the above could all be rendered entirely moot by a variety of factors affecting how the room and the set are actually lit.

It really demonstrates how people don't understand the way that trademark enforcement works. Trademark law specifically requires organizations to protect their trademark or they lose the right to do so in the future. Because that is a specific part of enforcement, the failure to enforce one's own trademark does not automatically mean that there is precedent that other teams cannot protect their own trademark, just as you noted with the Grizzlies. People like to bring up the Jets, but the New York Jets had played for years while the Winnipeg Jets existed. The ship had sailed decades earlier on them using trademark protections to stop a team named the Winnipeg Jets from existing. Of course, this is all soft IP law, so it also wouldn't be out of the norm for a judge to interpret things in a completely different manner and then create conflict of law that just muddles everything further.