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  2. Yes, keep pretending this has anything to do with that, despite being told otherwise. Must be nice getting to use someones fandom as a copout.
  3. That’s a good idea. There’s some historical connection to this as well.
  4. If the past year had involved my favorite team first declining to trade for Kawhi in favor of keeping Jaylen Brown and passing on Anthony Davis for the sake of retaining Jayson Tatum, I'd be screaming into the void about the importance of homegrown talent too. To convince myself if nothing else. Anyway, as great as NBA player movement is, they sure do love to convolute it. Who comes up with this :censored:?
  5. I've got to agree with @DastardlyRidleylash here. A simple-minded country boy isn't exactly desirable, even in a "laughing at ourselves" way. Heck, go to Port Coquitlam and see what a "simple-minded country boy" can do (On the Farm is an excellent read on a gross miscarriage of justice). He'd be more appropriate for a region of the country that has less of a "hubs for arts, culture and media in Canada" nature to it. Somewhere in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Manitoba might be more appropriate. There, it's a bit more OK to adopt a tongue-in-cheek symbol of Canadian national pride. Also, having the city that has doubled for damn-near every major metropolitan area in the world claim a national symbol just rubs me the wrong way. Nobody would get behind a Los Angeles team with Uncle Sam or a bald eagle as the logo, so why should it be different for Canada? Vancouver's status as an "international" city (due to its coastal nature and proximity to the United States/membership in Cascadia) contradicts the use of Canadian national symbols. TL;DR: I'm cool with a better-rendered Johnny, but I don't mind the Orca as much. If the team sees no reason to use Johnny based on their market research and current branding angle, I see little reason to dispute it. This isn't #bringbackthebrown, where a vocal minority grew to find a way to resolve a similarly-difficult branding situation.
  6. A couple of my friends are starting a landscaping business and asked me to put together a logo for them. They didn't have too much in mind in terms of specifications, other than that the JGN should be the focal point. I decided to take the idea of a wrought iron fence as my inspiration as a common fixture that combines elegant craftsmanship and strong, dependable performance. Before I submit my logo I'd love to get some critiques as to what could be improved.
  7. Once again deliberately ignoring the point that that they already had young guys they were building around (Cedric Maxwell, Larry Bird,) Instead of selling them all off for a bunch of veterans. At this point you're just being obtuse if you're having a hard time grasping such a simple concept.
  8. I like the new Canuck set. It's probably my favorite of the ones they've had.
  9. So am I wrong to assume that Johnny Canuck could be a black Canadian then? I don't think the white is a team color argument holds any water. White is a neutral that every team in the league wears. Vancouver's team colors are green and blue, maybe if we were talking Toronto or Detroit that would sway me, since blue and white, and red and white are all they have. But in the palette of Vancouver the "third most important team color" is also the least important team color if you want to even call it that in the first place. If they intend Johnny to be anything other than Caucasian they could have used a different color to represent his flesh. The Blackhawks use a non team color (several in fact) and nobody bats an eye.
  10. For the first time probably since AD was drafted or Chris Paul was still there, I have hope for my favorite team. It’s finally paying off!
  11. When that happens it’s typically less of a conscious choice and more of a “lost in translation/telephone game” type of thing.
  12. I personally like the top left option the best, but I can't decide which is number two. The thin outline on the top right makes it look a little thin, but I have to wonder what it would look like with a double outline, like the bottom right, only with the thinner letters.
  13. Chile has placed the game specific branding on the back of their jerseys instead of the front. It's different and I like it if the jersey is being displayed on a wall which may be why they did it?
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  15. I used to work with a guy who listened to SEC radio all the time. I wanted to jump into oncoming traffic. It was physically painful to listen to some of those callers. To be fair, there was a morning show on one of the top 40 stations that was just as terrible. One of the moron hosts actually got into a ten minute argument that as you move West from Oklahoma, you'll go through Arizona before you reach New Mexico.
  16. I also had no idea that the NFL had vetted Tom Dundon when the Carolina Panthers were for sale.
  17. Sometimes it can be a bit of both. It can be that in the case of the AAF they choose not to give it as much attention as they could. It's also likely, actually pretty obvious according to the ESPN article, that Ebersol did not engage the networks as aggressively as he could have to get them to buy in to coverage. When you appear to be more upset about not having your first meeting in a private room than you are about figuring out how to distribute players it would have affected how networks would view you if they heard about it.
  18. It wasn't his money, or so it was written/previously reported to make it seem. Wickersham and the co-writer indicated that Polian had a title of co-founder, but was more of a creative consultant.
  19. While trying to defend his failed vanity project? Shocker.
  20. But we just got done criticizing ESPN for trying to push an agenda?
  21. I still think it’s all silly. But when we’re discussing those stories, the team is the one that decides what the silly symbolism means. Province of the client, unfortunately. And that’s awesome. I love that story, it’s much better. Which is why it’s a shame that the Canucks chose not to incorporate it into the official meaning. I wonder why they made that choice?
  22. Having no fan consensus is probably the only thing you can count on when you’ve had a different identity every decade.
  23. Reading the ESPN article on the AAF, Charlie Ebersol sounded unhinged at times.
  24. No because the Orca is an entirely separate motif with zero connection to any part of a ‘Canucks’ identity. It’s completely out of left field. Nobody looks at a skate or rink and thinks ‘Oh, a Canuck is a boot with a knife on the bottom’. People look at the Orca and think a Canuck is a whale. Should the Seahawks use an Orca as their logo? They’re endemic to the Seattle area as well, so it makes as much sense.
  25. That’s ultimately where I stand. Some of us here want Johnny Canuck, but I take it that it’s a minority opinion. We have to remember that our opinions on the boards don’t necessarily reflect what the Canucks’ fans think. Market research won’t always back up the consensus of the CCSLC. This isn’t the Brewers’ ball-in-glove, the Padres in brown/yellow, or the Rams in royal blue/yellow. There’s no clear fan preference that contradicts what the team wants (AFAIK). The fans at large could reject Johnny Canuck for all we know. Maybe it’s for the reasons that @andrewharrington mentioned, I’m not sure. Johnny hasn’t been on a uniform since the early 1960s. Entire generations have gone by since its heyday. If that has any bearing on its current use, I’m not sure.
  26. Like trading the #1 overall in 1980 for Robert Parrish and the #3 overall, which was used for Kevin McHale or like trading Rick Robey for Dennis Johnson in 1983?
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