drdougfresh Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Alright, so it sounds like everyone has mixed feelings on everything this concept, generally speaking.Solution: some form of overhaul of my design, similar to what I did before. Some jerseys you will hate, some you will love. I can't get around that-- as you can see, some people love black, some people hate it. I can see both sides to that.I'll have some edits up tonight at some point-- and I think I will probably be breaking several of the NFL's uniform rules. As I stated previously: screw the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YessSir32 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'll have some edits up tonight at some point-- and I think I will probably be breaking several of the NFL's uniform rules. As I stated previously: screw the rules.Yeah! Make it a concept! Detroit Falcons (NABL) | Detroit Gears (UFL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaha32 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I like the white helmet. The striping down the middle looks nice like that. Not a fan of the black helmet though. DesignsByHahn.com Behance Dribbble Instragram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I normally hate BFBS, but I've always liked black for the Lions. Somehow it works really well with Honolulu Blue. Although I must admit, the Barry Sanders-era look is still better.Your concept, however, falls a bit flat for me simply because there's too much black and the sleeve stripes are too big. Reduce the black, use smaller sleeve stripes or go in a different direction, and it'll look really nice. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJworks Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 As much as I appreciate your work thus far, I'll have to say that this one falls short. All you really did was get rid of some striping, some outlines, some t.v. numbers, and added a ton of black. If anything, it looks unfinished, and I know that I've seen better from you. For the sake of realism, I'd say that it's your best bet to stick with one helmet (even though you already made your decision), and a throwback. The silver helmet looks just fine, and you could actually be a little inventive with the striping. But, if you want to include it, keep the throwback helmet the same, otherwise scrap it. A throwback becomes a "fauxback" when you start tweaking the look. Leave it how it is or dump it altogether.I'd really like to see what you do with this, otherwise. It surely has some potential if you make some changes, but hey it's your concept. Dribbble | Twitter | Facebook | Portfolio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Alright, thanks for all the C&C guys. I looked at what I did with a fresh pair of eyes, and really it felt a little uninspired. I don't know. I basically re-hashed what I did before, and was more focused on replicating what I did initially than coming up with something inventive.So, here's the updates. As promised, some will love, some will hate. It's not a removal of history, but a look towards the future (hence the throwbacks). I decided to take the plunge and use a touch of gradient on the numbers, which I think looks really sharp. I wanted to really showcase the team's colors, while staying away from shoulder stripes (leading to heavy Carolina comparisons). So, without further ado:I tried to take down the black a touch. I like the black helmet and pants, so I'm not willing to part with them haha. Thoughts? C&C is welcome as always, and thanks again for the comments on the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Three different styles of jerseys, three different styles of pants, two different helmet logos. I would drop one of the two alt jerseys and leave the alt pants "exclusive" to the alt jersey. That way you have the exact same stylings for the standard sets. And I would either drop the retro logo (as their throwbacks never had a logo), or just use the current logo to establish consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Three different styles of jerseys, three different styles of pants, two different helmet logos. I would drop one of the two alt jerseys and leave the alt pants "exclusive" to the alt jersey. That way you have the exact same stylings for the standard sets. And I would either drop the retro logo (as their throwbacks never had a logo), or just use the current logo to establish consistency.They did. Their currents do not, and they're almost a little too dry for me, so I went with a derivative of their 1961-1970 look.As far as the rest of your comment, I am a bit confused. They are the same style, different colors for the standard set. The two throwbacks would be used once a year. Pants and tops are the same style for the standard set, so I'm lost as to what you mean by "exact same stylings" on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbannon92 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I like the update. I like the simplicity of the whole look. The slight gradient in the numbers is a nice touch as well. My only concern is the stripe on the back of the jerseys. Does it just stop on the sides? I would try and continue it onto the front of the jersey somehow, not too far onto the front though, just to give it better closure. Nike + CFL 2015 | 2015-16 NBA Concepts | Complete College Football Redesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I like the update. I like the simplicity of the whole look. The slight gradient in the numbers is a nice touch as well. My only concern is the stripe on the back of the jerseys. Does it just stop on the sides? I would try and continue it onto the front of the jersey somehow, not too far onto the front though, just to give it better closure.That's an excellent point, actually. I hadn't thought about it when I did these, because I was trying to come up with something fluid that looked good from the front to the back. Anything across the top of the shoulders looked funky, so I settled on this. I think I'll do some action templates to show the look (maybe). Basically, The end of the back lines will go straight up to the armpit. I'll update that next time I get the chance. Thanks for the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Three different styles of jerseys, three different styles of pants, two different helmet logos. I would drop one of the two alt jerseys and leave the alt pants "exclusive" to the alt jersey. That way you have the exact same stylings for the standard sets. And I would either drop the retro logo (as their throwbacks never had a logo), or just use the current logo to establish consistency.They did. Their currents do not, and they're almost a little too dry for me, so I went with a derivative of their 1961-1970 look.As far as the rest of your comment, I am a bit confused. They are the same style, different colors for the standard set. The two throwbacks would be used once a year. Pants and tops are the same style for the standard set, so I'm lost as to what you mean by "exact same stylings" on that front.I was under the impression you were trying to simulate their Thanksgiving Day throwbacks. Which were void of helmet logos. And I was just referencing that you have 3 different styles of jerseys (modern style with piping, blue throwback-plain, white throwback-with stripes). You have three sets of pants (modern style with piping, plain silver, and blue with normal striping). I just think it needs to be simplified a bit, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Three different styles of jerseys, three different styles of pants, two different helmet logos. I would drop one of the two alt jerseys and leave the alt pants "exclusive" to the alt jersey. That way you have the exact same stylings for the standard sets. And I would either drop the retro logo (as their throwbacks never had a logo), or just use the current logo to establish consistency.They did. Their currents do not, and they're almost a little too dry for me, so I went with a derivative of their 1961-1970 look.As far as the rest of your comment, I am a bit confused. They are the same style, different colors for the standard set. The two throwbacks would be used once a year. Pants and tops are the same style for the standard set, so I'm lost as to what you mean by "exact same stylings" on that front.I was under the impression you were trying to simulate their Thanksgiving Day throwbacks. Which were void of helmet logos. And I was just referencing that you have 3 different styles of jerseys (modern style with piping, blue throwback-plain, white throwback-with stripes). You have three sets of pants (modern style with piping, plain silver, and blue with normal striping). I just think it needs to be simplified a bit, that's all.Ah, okay makes more sense. Yes, I wanted to replicate them, but add some more to them, as I stated: I find them a little dry right now. As far as the entire set, you have to think of the top H/A being worn like 6 times each a year, the alt twice, and the two throwbacks once each. In that respect, it's pretty simple-- just have a lot more options to work with.I'm going to try and put these on some Lions players. Anyone have tips/tricks for doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahgee Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Alright, so it sounds like everyone has mixed feelings on everything this concept, generally speaking.Solution: some form of overhaul of my design, similar to what I did before. Some jerseys you will hate, some you will love. I can't get around that-- as you can see, some people love black, some people hate it. I can see both sides to that.I'll have some edits up tonight at some point-- and I think I will probably be breaking several of the NFL's uniform rules. As I stated previously: screw the rules.Do you have enough capital to vacate said procedures. Now, onto the actual concept, I would either give the home throwbacks the away throwbacks sleeve stripes, or get rid of the away sleeve stripes. I would also add a stripe to the white pants. The gradient numbers are awesome, and you did what the Jaguars couldn't, which is make back piping look sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is that a statement or a question? As for the throwbacks, they're from different eras. No need to make them match. I don't know why you would do that to begin with. The white pants have a stripe. If you're talking about the SILVER pants, not adding one. They don't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahgee Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is that a statement or a question? As for the throwbacks, they're from different eras. No need to make them match. I don't know why you would do that to begin with. The white pants have a stripe. If you're talking about the SILVER pants, not adding one. They don't need it.And I thought that the Throwbacks were from the same era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is that a statement or a question? As for the throwbacks, they're from different eras. No need to make them match. I don't know why you would do that to begin with. The white pants have a stripe. If you're talking about the SILVER pants, not adding one. They don't need it.http://oldies.s3.amazonaws.com/i/boxart/simu/44/089218447890.jpgAnd I thought that the Throwbacks were from the same era.Your jokes aren't funny, and neither are the stupid pictures you always post.I love the update! The jersey's design is really cool, but I'm curious as to how it wraps around, does it go down the side unto the back? Check out my new NFL 2016 Series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is that a statement or a question? As for the throwbacks, they're from different eras. No need to make them match. I don't know why you would do that to begin with. The white pants have a stripe. If you're talking about the SILVER pants, not adding one. They don't need it.http://oldies.s3.amazonaws.com/i/boxart/simu/44/089218447890.jpgAnd I thought that the Throwbacks were from the same era.Your jokes aren't funny, and neither are the stupid pictures you always post.I love the update! The jersey's design is really cool, but I'm curious as to how it wraps around, does it go down the side unto the back?Took the words outta my mouth. Jahgee, just stop please.As I said earlier, I am working on some action templates to show that. Might just use davidson's stuff for that. Thanks, glad you like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Alright, creating the action template is pissing me off, and I've got another big project I want to work on before everyone jumps on the subject (much like the Winnipeg Jets). I just put the design on Davidson's original action template so you can see how it would look on the field. I think I'll do a Techfit/Pro Combat version of the alternate, just to show it off in a more "stylish" way. Anyway, here's the design:If you look closely, the back contour line will come to a point under the armpit-- carrying from the side on up. It's the best way I could think to end that piping, and it's just a subtle change.I'll maybe post the alternate uniform in one of those 3D templates in a little bit. Or maybe I should just slap some cut and pasted .gifs on a pre-existing jersey if I want some commentary on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogeshak Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is that a statement or a question? As for the throwbacks, they're from different eras. No need to make them match. I don't know why you would do that to begin with. The white pants have a stripe. If you're talking about the SILVER pants, not adding one. They don't need it.And I thought that the Throwbacks were from the same era.Those kind of pics don't really work if you're twelve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Does anyone have any input on this? Or has another thread fallen victim to trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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