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    to change the Alabama, Penn St, and Nebraska helmet would change the whole personality and message of the identity. you have to think about WHY you would do it and "because it looks good" is a :censored: answer. if you change the helmet, you say you are throwing your history and traditions to the side in place of a focus on the future and creating new traditions, as Oregon did extremely well. and to match a new helmet with the same jersey/pants design would be tacky. so if im changing a primary helmet to sport a primary logo, thats just where im going to start visually. it should reflect brand values (do you want to use a monogram and be traditional with a focus on history or use a new illustrated logo and be modern with a focus on future?) and carry on throughout the uniform and school identity. that said, theres only 1 school i can think of that has a non-primary logo helmet design that would work better with the logo on the helmet; Colorado State. They use a design that is a direct copy of the STL Rams and when they already have a great logo of their own they should use it to create their own football identity. also, since UCF has been brought up, i've always thought the school's primary logo would work very well on the football helmet. It ties the academic and athletic brand together (which isnt right or wrong but i do like simplicity) and gives the football team a unique helmet design.
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    None of it surprises me. I'm sure the players would clap like seals for whatever new crap they're told is the most cutting edge. The organization felt that fan interest was waning because their uniforms grew stale, not because they'd become a dumpster fire of an organization over the past decade, so they listened to Nike's branding spiel on how to fix their image. I'm sure that the NFL doesn't mind this pile of garbage. The NFL is a slut, because they knew Nike's intentions when they got in its car. Nobody in the league offices was shocked when they saw what became of the Bucs. Least of all, I am not at all baffled that Nike would do such a thing. This is exactly what they do, and what we all thought they would do. This is not Nike giving the Bucs a modern classic look that could be adapted to any template, which looked nearly as good today as a decade ago. This is "Nike presents: Pewter Power - starring the Tampa Bay Buccaneers". This is Nike throwing everything out the window to come up with the most outlandish design, devoid of any restraint or tact, and emphasizing their proprietary template. The team is irrelevant, because this design is about Nike. The teams are dumb for going along with it, absolutely. But Nike would push any envelope in an effort to get more notoriety. And you can bet that they showed the Bears ideas for revamping them to black and bronze, and showed the Packers mock-ups of them in highlighter yellow. They have zero concern with respecting aesthetic traditions or even putting out a quality design. The Bucs and Jags are basically Nike creating saleman samples to show to college football teams.
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    Greg Wyshynski of Puck Daddy suggested Toronto Rakes (the sworn enemy of Leafs).
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    I think the NFL set a good precedent...32 teams is a PERFECT number for a league, and I think that's enough. (Skip Vegas and a second Toronto team, do Seattle & QC)
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    I think we're officially at the point of the program where some rebel soldiers storm the castle and behead the insane emperor for the good of the country.
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    Edit: (Revised logo with new rocket) Home Set (Credit to Scott Springer and gingerbreadmann for the templates) Road Set (Nothing too different. I'll save the wild design for the alternate) Alternate set
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    Hi, check out my new logo http://www.behance.net/gallery/19342521/Energa-Czarni-Slupsk Thanks for comments and opinions. Regards Kamil Doliwa
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    Agreed nice clean helmet and love the logo
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    LOS ANGELES LAKERS Simple look here. Shoulder stripes on the home kit is the same as the side panels on the actual uniforms, and it's practically an invert on the away.
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    i made the same comment in the CFB uniform thread but i forgot about how the wings would be facing forward on the left side. i dont think that works well. if they went with a non winged-D then it would be a large improvement Easy solution just put a player number on the other side like every other D1 school. Problem solved.
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    Very nice. As a standalone, the logo is outstanding, but the issue I have (small issue) is the placement over the wordmark. It may be solely a spacing issue between the N and the I, but I did not know it was CZARNI, so I was reading CZARM.
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    I typed that in the body of an email so it looked like I was working while at work. Might explain the screwy formatting. And I meant successful in the relative sense. Raleigh isn't great, but it's not as bad as the disaster in Glendale.
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    the last one is a lot better. I hate the template though, but I can get what you are trying to do. I personally would like to the the waist strip with a similar look a-la Minnesota Wild white jersey.
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    FTFYOh that joke never gets old. These aren't great at all, but they're hardly the apocalyptic abomination that some here want them to be. Classic CCSLC hyperbole. I disagree completely. I don't think this is hyperbole at all - they really are that bad. I don't overly praise or slam designs - I can almost always at least see what a team was going for, even if they failed. With this, I have no idea what they were even thinking about. It's just a collection of bad ideas thrown together with little-to-no cohesion.
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    Simple and beautiful. It's one of those "why didn't I think of that" logos. Well done!
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    The only way I'd support this was if they brought back the Hartford Whalers, and I think we all know that's not going to happen. I really want the Whalers back, at any cost.
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    That would be good in absolutely no way, except that there will be four new identities for us to critique.
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    The striping is clean and modern and I suppose simple can be effective. What I can't get past however is the use of the wordmark. I've always disliked them calling themselves the "Bolts" and I think a full logo would suit the concept better.
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    I normally don't post on stuff like this, but here we go... As someone who considers himself a self-taught designer, I find that paint (as others have noted) is a great tool to have for those who are just being introduced to design in general. I know that it really helped me understand the basics of aesthetic and arrangement. For that, I do think the idea having paint as strictly a beginners resource isn't a bad idea. However, the switch to inkscape (it only takes up 77mbs!) was the best decision I could have made. Yeah, there's a learning curve, and I struggled a bit to figure it out at first. But the strides that I have made as a designer are so many times larger than I could ever have with paint. If you really want to be a good designer, then I'd absolutely suggest switching. In regards to the numerous comments people have made about being "terrible at drawing..." There's nothing that makes me more annoyed on this site than seeing that statement. I always used to use that excuse too, and thought that being a good artist was a natural thing. As it turns out, it takes effort. I find that a lot of it has less to do with natural ability (I wouldn't say I'm an incredibly gifted artist), and more to do with a "how can I use what skills I have to make this look good," mentality. For me, it's slowing down and focusing on the details at hand. And the big thing about sketching logos, it doesn't have to look great. I don't think I have a single sketched logo that I would even consider decent, and I don't sketch all the time. But it really helps get ideas down, especially if I don't know the direction I want to go. The past few post of this thread have also accented a point that other people are trying to make, though it may not be coming through because they are all "professionals." As someone who considers himself somewhere in the middle-level design wise on this site, you absolutely have to listen to these guys, no matter how good you think you are. Every single person who has commented in this thread has been instrumental in my own development as a designer, whether it be from C+C or from simply examining their work (especially helpful is learning to mimick elements of a design that someone else created to learn the techniques on how to make similar elements). All the bits and pieces I've gathered have made me so much better than I would've been otherwise, and I owe pretty much everything I've done to the people at the CCSLC. Simply put, listening will make you better. For those of you who don't want to do this, and just want constant praise, I'd suggest sticking to instagram.
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    i'm starting to ease into inkscape. but paint rocks. it may be harder and more time consoming than inkscape but it gets the job done. For all the paint users out there that are thinking about changing programs, IMO stay with paint. put effort in to it. it will turn out great. just stay away from all the haters of paint. i've gotton so much crap over the last year for using paint. but the best thing to do is never give up on your work and keep making concepts.For the others please respect the paint users. its hard when you put work into a great concept and you guys talk crap about it or don't say anything usefull at all. the best way for us to get better is for someone to achually be considerate for what we do. we are people too. As a 13 year old i'm not going to buy a program. i don't have a job and right now, and i'm saving up my money for somthing usefull. this is not the only thing in my life. my brother ( hockey13ny) is using illusrator the free trail, and it looks like a great program, but we looked into buying the real thing and it was so expensive. Even when i'm old enough to get a job and get paied minimum wage. i'll want to save for college. i wouldn't make a lot having to pay for illusrtor every year or month. So in the long run paint is a awesome tool, and can do great things if you do great things with it, and eagle98 is here to help us out a little bit, so lets not be rude to someone who only wants to help We don't "hate" on your concepts because you use paint, but rather because you show no progress nor willingness to listen to any criticism *1 . And no, don't just keep using paint and make concepts. You're supposed to LEARN and get better *2. If paint's all that's available to you that's fine. There have been plenty of members here who have done great work in paint. Sorry but you're not one of them yet. Your age and inexperience shows through, but you refuse to see it. If you actually listened to the critiques you might actually get better, but you choose to believe doing the same thing over and over means your good.Listen paint users. If that's what you have to use, use it. If you have the opportunity to try another program, try it. You may end up preferring it over paint. And if it's free or at least affordable or sense able to purchase for YOU, then do so. But listen to these artists who have the experience. If they give you tips on how to properly design regardless of your program, listen. As was mentioned, you're not gonna learn anything from other beginners other than how to be a better beginner. And this isn't a knock on the OP. I know he's trying to help and there's help in what he's written, but you have a plethora of graphic design knowledge here at your disposal, and from what they've posted in this thread, they seem to be very willing to share that knowledge with you to help you become a better artist. 1. McCall its called learning from your mistakes, and yeah that one got me suspended for a week, and i learned from it so get over it.2. those two sentences don't make sense. if i don't make concepts how do i learn thats all i want to say You were suspended for belligerent behavior and excessive topic bumping. The harsh critiques you get are from your unwillingness to listen to critiques. You only want praises. You ignore the truth which is that you're far away from being ready to post concepts. Both you and you're @uniformwhatever concept partner. And no it's not trial and error. It's trial, get feedback, listen to feedback, study the aspects of design that you're focusing on and then implement all of this into your next design. Then you repeat this every time. It's not just make a concept, post it, make another concept, post it, and so on. All that's doing is posting concepts at the same level every time rather than improving each time. You can't learn from your own concepts if you don't know what's wrong with them. Plus you have to take time. People can tell when a concept took 5 minutes. Most of mine I've worked on for weeks even months before posting. And even then it's because I'm stuck and looking for further advice before posting my final piece. You still have a lot to learn.
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    i'm starting to ease into inkscape. but paint rocks. it may be harder and more time consoming than inkscape but it gets the job done. For all the paint users out there that are thinking about changing programs, IMO stay with paint. put effort in to it. it will turn out great. just stay away from all the haters of paint. i've gotton so much crap over the last year for using paint. but the best thing to do is never give up on your work and keep making concepts.For the others please respect the paint users. its hard when you put work into a great concept and you guys talk crap about it or don't say anything usefull at all. the best way for us to get better is for someone to achually be considerate for what we do. we are people too. As a 13 year old i'm not going to buy a program. i don't have a job and right now, and i'm saving up my money for somthing usefull. this is not the only thing in my life. my brother ( hockey13ny) is using illusrator the free trail, and it looks like a great program, but we looked into buying the real thing and it was so expensive. Even when i'm old enough to get a job and get paied minimum wage. i'll want to save for college. i wouldn't make a lot having to pay for illusrtor every year or month. So in the long run paint is a awesome tool, and can do great things if you do great things with it, and eagle98 is here to help us out a little bit, so lets not be rude to someone who only wants to help We don't "hate" on your concepts because you use paint, but rather because you show no progress nor willingness to listen to any criticism. And no, don't just keep using paint and make concepts. You're supposed to LEARN and get better. If paint's all that's available to you that's fine. There have been plenty of members here who have done great work in paint. Sorry but you're not one of them yet. Your age and inexperience shows through, but you refuse to see it. If you actually listened to the critiques you might actually get better, but you choose to believe doing the same thing over and over means your good.Listen paint users. If that's what you have to use, use it. If you have the opportunity to try another program, try it. You may end up preferring it over paint. And if it's free or at least affordable or sense able to purchase for YOU, then do so. But listen to these artists who have the experience. If they give you tips on how to properly design regardless of your program, listen. As was mentioned, you're not gonna learn anything from other beginners other than how to be a better beginner. And this isn't a knock on the OP. I know he's trying to help and there's help in what he's written, but you have a plethora of graphic design knowledge here at your disposal, and from what they've posted in this thread, they seem to be very willing to share that knowledge with you to help you become a better artist.
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    Let's be clear here: no one is "hating" on your tools of choice, nor are they "hating" on this tutorial. I think that's immaturity or stagnation talking more than anything. If you read the things that GFB or CAB or I had said as attacks, then I'd say you're not ready to grow. And that's fine, we're all at different stages in the growth curve. But there's no reason to vehemently stick with Paint to prove a point when your work could be improved by some simple changes to your workflow. What I (and several others) are suggesting is to improve your skill set beyond paint. I can assure you, Paint will serve ZERO purpose in the working world if you get into any kind of design work. It works for what it's intended for (editing and creating simple raster graphics), but it is far from efficient. With efficiency comes more time to focus on detail, like presentation and cleaning up your work. Often times, this is what people take issue with, not the concept (how you react to C&C is a whole other topic). Anyway, I hope some of the younger or more inexperienced designers make the leap as a result of this discussion. I too started in Paint, and my first concepts here were in Paint.NET. You can learn and grow if you make the effort.
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    I do not like that you put the wordmark rather than a logo on the front. Other than that, nice job.
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    A 15-year search is OVER!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-WLAF-Orlando-Thunder-Jersey-/161399314944?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item2594261a00#ht_24wt_1020
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    Are you kidding me? Let's break down what is wrong with the uniform: The yoke on the shoulders looks horribleThe BUCS on the arms should never be there. The other arm with the pirate ship logo should be on both arms instead. What's the point of stripe on the pants? It seems like Nike forced it on pants as it is out of place and quite frankly ugly. The oversized logo on the helmet is an eyesore. The forced creamsickle (orange) in the uniform is not needed and quite frankly does not look good with the dark pewter & red. The matte color is simple horrible for the pants....then and now. The old pants simply make the new ones look an Arena League team. I could keep going, but to go from best looking uniform in the NFL to looking like clowns is major downgrade. You can't get any better than this:
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    I wish they'd go back to the flex fit style for the BP caps. I don't like the fitted styles as much.
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    I agree. While I don't mind them in purple (and TBH, who else in the NHL should wear purple?), they've always seemed right in black and silver from the Gretzky era. The Bucs look good...from the neck up. Their logo (even the new one) is a great fit to be oversized on a helmet, and the helmet gives a great metallic feel. But I'll disagree and say that they needed to keep thing pretty much the same aside from the helmet. Or, with the new set, at least tone down (read: round) the numbers and break up all the red main jersey and pewter shoulders with some orange and white. (On the whites, replace white with red). The Jags look all right...from the neck down, as long as they don't go monochrome. And I'd prefer them to wear their teal uniforms as their primaries. I'd elongate the pants rectangle, but everything else should just about the same. While I'm on the subject, I've come around on the Seahawks uniforms. They're certainly not perfect, but they're a few tweaks (mostly color consistency and maybe a little more green) from being an outstanding modern set. The Navy/Lime Green/Gray color scheme is outstanding, especially for a team from Seattle. I'd even go a step further and suggest they either drop white from their color scheme entirely or make their white uniforms an alternate. Also, from the NBA and my home state, the Utah Jazz's current set may be top 2 material (besides the 1980s-1996 set). While I agree that tweaking their colors (navy to purple/royal/indigo or forest to kelly) would be ideal (or using a color scheme from the past), they can seriously keep the uniform template, update the J-note logo/script font (I do not recognize MountainBall as their logo) to something more "western" (something like SFGiants58's concept with a new mountainball on the J-note), and I'd be content with their uniforms into perpetuity. Fitting some subtle mountains may add some spice to their look, but that's about it.
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    Tumors also can grow on people but, just like the Bucs uni's, they no good for no one.
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    So I've kind of wandered around wondering what could I do more for my regions, and I figured out I could work on our boring ID cards we got. I got the same template, and here are the ID of the regions I've already submitted.
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    I can see NYCFC supporters refer to the club as City FC or even the Sky Blues. It's how the club promotes themselves and how they want their supporters to see the club. It has to be better than NYRB has promoted themselves.
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