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    Interesting talk about design, and specifically, flag design.
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    You mean, other than this one?
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    Yeah but there's a big difference between those two sets in that the Vikings looked like total crap in that "modern" set, while the Broncos actually look pretty sharp in their "modern" set. Let's just face it. This whole branding trend we've seen in the past two decades can be attributed (at least in part) to that Broncos rebrand. It was fantastic when it first came out, was the catalyst for a LOT of other rebrands, and it's held up surprisingly well since then. Add the Super Bowl wins on top of that and it really is "iconic" IMO. They shouldn't touch it. And here's another thing people usually tend to ignore. That previous Broncos set kinda sucked. Super plain orange jersey, faded and gross looking shade of blue (it always reminded me of my high school JV jerseys that sat in the sun so long that the deep royal blue got sun bleached and faded to all hell), and incredibly wonky looking logo. I mean what the hell is that in front of the horse? Is that snot? Is it a lance someone is bugging the horse with? Either way, that set was mostly crap that rivaled the Bucco Bruce set in terms of false nostalgia. And they sucked in that set, too! Really? What's there to miss? In no universe is this A better look than this Missing that previous set and hoping it will one day come back is akin to longing for the days when you're kitchen looked like this
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    It was pretty great when the Broncos wore the classic uniform for Thanksgiving back in 2001. It's just a better uniform.
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    What an absolute mess that D Backs rebrand was. No wonder it ended up so mish mosh and confusing.
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    I'm finally in the process of coming home from the war, so I'll be offline for a bit. Keep up the great work, and once I've had a chance to spend some time with the wife and kids, I'll be back on here.
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    I've often wished that you weren't so circumspect. Come on, man. Tell us what you really think! We're big boys and girls here, you needn't bother with vagueries.
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    It's a simple bolded letter. Simple and nice looking is still better than a complex cluster. I don't think it's necessary to wipe away the roots of teams who are around during that time, turning them into something unrecognizable.
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    There was never enough blue in the rest of that uniform to balance out the blue helmet. Reverse the orange and blue on the socks, and match the stripes to the helmet and that would've looked really good.
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    Yeah there's no reason for a White Sox rebrand. Their look is so them and so solid that it can stay. With that said, their throwback stuff is so fun and quirky in a good way that it's a pretty welcome thing to pop up every now and then like in these ST unis. They kinda have the best of both worlds I'd say.
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    I've always thought that the Lions should basically be a blue version of the Raiders. Slap on a blue mask, the logo, and MAYBE a single blue stripe on the helmet, and they're set. (And I say this right after calling the Broncos old set boring and nondescript. Go figure.)
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    that's a bad photoshop job of adding yellow onto their set from last year. the striping isnt even right. Here;s the actual new jersey from behind .
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    I have this book called They Call Me Gump. It was an autobiography written by Lorne Worsley. It was given to me as a gift because my teacher at school knew how much of a North Stars fan I was. Gump is painted on the cover wearing his North Stars uniform. Growing up in Montreal his dad was a huge Maroons fan and in the book he tells stories about how vicious that rivalry was. Even after games outside the Forum things would get pretty heated between fans that fistfights were commonplace. It really transcended the game and became political at times between the French and English.
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    How can NNOB be the more professional look if your jersey can be given to any minor leaguer/non-roster invite/september callup and can be used by them without anyone knowing that was your jersey first? With name on back, if your jersey has your name it can't be used by anyone else. Its YOUR jersey. To me that's more professional than the high school look of "oh grab whatever jersey number you want out of that pile of old jerseys right there." But really, the debate I wanted to make a point out of was the idea that NNOB is better because your home fans should already know your numbers. That's such an exaggerated theory, it's not entirely accurate. I'm as die hard a Marlins fan as probably anyone on this planet and of course I can tell you the jersey number of every major player on my team... but there's plenty of lower level guys I may be unsure of their number. Am I gonna remember the number of every relief pitcher that comes up throught the season? And if I can't remember every single player number... why would anyone else in the crowd know them all? Forget the Marlins in my case but any home town crowd. The number of people who fall into the category of "die hard fan who knows every jersey number" is so miniscule it's probably a laughable number. Are we forgetting how many fans in any ballpark are casual fans? Or even "less than casual fans" who got a free ticket, or got invited by a friend, or at simply at their first game ever? How about kids? Even kids that love their team won't know the whole roster of numbers outside of their favorite players. Since the Yankees seem to be prime suspect number one for that argument... I wish there was a way of going to a Yankee home game and polling every fan in attendance to see who can really identify all the players by number alone. I think the results would surprise us.
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    Not a big fan of this season's Disruption uniforms as they seem to be copying the fugly patterns/designs of Adidas' past uniforms.
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    That's the most Sacramento Kings sounding thing I've ever heard. I completely believe that. I bet it was some rinky dink local screen print shop off of Watt who did the jerseys too.
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    Considering the era in which names were added, I'd argue that it had nothing to do with merchandising.
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    Hey guys, I have been working on a pistons rebrand seeing as there has been talk of a logo change. Even though I don't expect much of a change here soon i decided to go all out anyway! The main idea was to try to modernize the "horsepower" look while also mixing in uniform design from their current and bad boys sets. The modernization involved straightening the "Pistons" wordmark, removing chrome reflections, removing silver, smoothing and simplifying lines, adding a "Detroit" wordmark, and modernizing the two alternate logos similarly. For the uniforms, I tried to have a nice mix of eras with the bad boys, horsepower, and modern sets, and I decided to put it on my Nike template because I made the template and because of Nike taking over the NBA in the near future. So without further ado here's my version of the Detroit Pistons! Primary Logo: Alternate Logos: Home Uniform: Away Uniform: C&C is always apprecitaed! Thanks!
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    This could have been a legit look for a Montreal Maroons team, in a 2.0 world where they never folded. Montreal's former junior team used very Maroon-inspired logos and colors. Slap Maroons on there instead of Junior and it gives a nice looking picture...
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    Well I'm going to take the lack of comments as a good sign... I guess. (Thanks for the support, @timberwolf & @elevenstraight). Let's move on to the NFC West. Arizona Cardinals: I originally had the sunburst pattern on the pants below the logo to serve as the pants striping, but that was on the Mach Speed template and it made much more sense on that rather than the Vapor template. So, I went with a simple look for the oldest franchise in the league. I also had a helmet stripe but it looked out of place with the stripe-less design. The Sunburst on the sleeves comes from the state flag of Arizona. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Los Angeles Rams: Kind of a combination of eras. Congrats to LA on getting your team back. The overall design plus the athletic gold comes from the team's days in LA while the navy is carried over from St. Louis along with a set of white and navy britches. ------------------------------------------------------------------- San Francisco 49ers: Black makes a return to the rotation and not in the form of a terrible alternate. I love the uniforms worn in the late 90's. This set pays tribute to that set via the helmet and pants striping as well as the red facemask. The biggest change is probably to the jersey stripes, as they now have black trim. I was going to have gold trim in between the white & black but it muddied things up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Seattle Seahawks: Gray is dead. I love the 2012 rebrand, but compared to the previous set, the only way to go was up. Gray was an okay choice, but I feel like it kind of muddies things up, especially on the home uniforms. So, white and neon green replace gray. The jersey and pants striping are both based on the helmet striping and the days of Kelly Green and Royal Blue. __________________________________________ Next Up: The AFC North. Feel free to leave some C+C. I'd love to hear what you guys think.
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    I have been thinking about this all day and may try to see what happens in OOTP baseball The way I thought of is the Giants go to Minnesota, so that means the Senators stay put. The PCL gets good enough to merge into the MLB creating a 3rd league. The current teams in 1958 would be the LA Angels, San Diego Padres, Portland Beavers, Sacramento Salons, Seattle Raineers, Hollywood Stars, San Francisco Seals, and the Vancouver Mounties(previously the Oakland Oaks). The Salt Lake Bees and Denver Bees probably make the jump to protect markets, and they'd be the first league to 10 teams. The World Series can't be split between 3 teams, so the first 4 team playoff happens with the wild card being the best non-pennant winner. Kansas City doesn't lose the A's to Oakland. Houston gets the Colt .45's in the NL. The Braves move from Milwaukee to Atlanta, so the Brewers join the AL, skipping the Seattle Pilot year. Then the next two expansion teams would be Toronto and Montreal. In this timeline, the Expos move to Miami and play at Sunlife Stadium until Marlins Park gets built. The White Sox and Giants threaten to move to Tampa Bay still. The Diamondbacks and Rangers don't exist, but would likely appear through relocation.
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    Not bad but it's too complex. You can take away alot of the detailing and maybe make the axes more noticeable.
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    A little more from Dallas. From Footy Headlines: "The new Dallas kit will be red with details in white and blue, creating a design that sticks close to the club's roots. FC Dallas home shirts traditionally feature hoops, but it's not clear from the images if that will be the case with the Dallas 2016 primary jersey."
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    You're right. There's likely going to be a lot of people who don't know who anyone is from their number, although they're going to have plenty of opportunity to know who each person is by the lineup intros, and the announcement of their name and number each at-bat, as well as a scoreboard that gives you the entire lineup with their positions next to their names. And that's not counting just looking at the players. Nobody's going to mix up C.C. Sabathia and Brett Gardner, even from the upper deck. Are there going to be people who still don't know who anyone is. There's always people who got free tickets or are just going because it's the cool thing to go. The thing is, even if you don't put names on the back, how many of these people are going to care? They're going to spend the time taking pictures of themselves and their friends, talking, and reacting when something happens. As for the professionalism aspect, I already listed a number of arguments in my last part. Screen-printing can be done by any little-league or softball team. It just feels a little too "look at me". NNOB is more mature and therefore feels more professional. If the scoreboard operator is making mistakes about who each player is, they do not deserve their job. And I'm not gonna lie, the Yankees always have three or four generic Midwestern white guys in the bullpen I can't tell apart. I honestly couldn't identify Robertson out of a lineup for the first few years of his career. A number of those elements did disappear for years, although they reappeared more recently. One never did, though. Hmm... Although I'm having trouble finding the original pictures of the actual jersey. I distinctly remember the reveal as well as the outrage on this board when it quietly was scuttled without a word. The Marlins new identity was revealed while we were in Detroit for Marnen's wedding. We were staying at a Red Roof Inn, and I'd watched the third episode of Grimm the night before with the bee queen who ended up getting dealt with by Adalind. The cake was yellow with flowers. On the drive back through Pennsylvania we listened to a radio show that consisted of two guys watching the football games on TV with it audible in the background while they commented on it. Basically, when I distinctly remember something, I remember it vividly. The fact that I'm having trouble finding this is driving me crazy.
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    I'm surprised they don't have any local TV coverage . . . even if it was just Ed Hale buying the airtime for 1-2 games a year for the sake of exposure.
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    The Nazis considered all manner of other peoples "honorary Aryans" if it met their political needs. From the Japanese to the Sioux. I don't think that would have stopped the Germans from turning on their imperial allies as they did all the others, nor did it mean they considered Native Americans anything but their inferiors. Many Nazis fetishized Native Americans, to be sure. But that's not incompatible with racism. Not that we necessarily have to look to the Nazi connection to explain Engelstad's devotion to the name. But he does tend to hurt that cause.
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    The cyber horse and uniform were dated by 2001. Neither are very good. Should they go straight-up throwback? No... but taking cues from their better uniform history would be a good place to start for a new look...
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    You are correct that the Broncos' current set was revolutionary. It also has aged much better than every other "modern" set. However, no. It's much worse than the classic set. I'm not a fan of the current logo, but I'll give you that the old logo wasn't great. I personally loved the shade of blue used on the helmets and wished they'd have used that on the jerseys. But the "super plain orange jersey?" That's a football jersey with football stripes. Not trying to look like a rollerball team. And the Broncos didn't suck in that set, at least until they made it to the Super Bowl.
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    Ah, I get it now. I was not liking that element since I thought it was trying to kind of be "like" a Texas flag. Makes more sense now, even without the white line dividing the red/blue (which I think is an improvement anyway, cleaner).
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    I believe I was the culprit of sharing this info. I heard it from a Kings beat writer at the time who had heard it from a team executive. I unfortunately do not have any links to offer. The owner had brought the team to Sacramento, and was a hero of sorts here, but was unable to keep up with the wealthier clubs, and was notoriously cheep. His inability to maintain the league's ever-expanding expenditures and salaries forced him to eventually sell to the Maloofs, and makes this story fit so perfectly into Sacramento Kings lore.
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    Quite a revelation! Why, I bet one could use such a tool to look up pornography!
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    I totally hate the direction MLB uniforms are heading. Nearly every single new element for next season is a horrible break from what made MLB the best looking major pro sport by a country mile...
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    I know it's, like, your opinion man, but that's like wishing the original Orioles didn't move to New York (though I'm sure the Baltimore-to-Yankees connection isn't that clean). The Lakers are a pillar of the NBA; the league might not exist today if you didn't have the Lakers/Celtics rivalries of the 60s through the 80s.
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    The Brewers will be going late 90's jerseys on July 30
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    I think it's possible that a few PCL teams would have been able to make the jump. Not the whole league, but the bulk of it in mass expansion. We would today have the San Francisco Seals, Los Angeles Angels, Hollywood Stars, Seattle Rainiers and Portland Beavers?
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    This is definitely very thorough, even more so than the official stylesheets. If I were making this for purpose of printing into a book, I would consolidate a few things: - Either put numbers & letters for each jersey on one page instead of two, or just include the letters on the full uniform pages. - Under "Cap History," list each cap once with the years worn underneath, instead of going year-by-year and listing each hat six times. - Figure out somewhere else to list the franchise history w/ affiliates. That half page could go with stadium info (minus a few park photos) or integrated with the cap history. Style notes: - That grey background sort of works with the Loons' art, but it won't for other teams. I suggest using plain white or a considerably lighter grey. The smoky texture would even be okay at a lighter value. - Make sure you give every graphic its room to breathe. For example, the primary logo is crowded by the "Primary Mark" label on the 2nd page, and the caps in the history are right on top of each other. - The Minor League Baseball logo in the top-right corner was abandoned by MiLB roughly 10 years ago. Still a good start for such an archival project. Where are you getting these graphics, just on Chris' site?
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    Excuse me while I clean up my drool.
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    It already has an official name. A fine one.
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    You have four buttons in front of you. One brings back the Oilers I realize they've been terrible for a solid decade now but damn.
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    Hockey week explained it better than I ever could so I'll refer you to that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say third jerseys would be sorely missed by the majority of sports-aesthetic, enthusiasts on these boards. The double blue is fitting and the 'Canon' was good enough to promote to secondary status. The only thing I dislike is the use of vintage white but it's still a sharp uniform.
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    Love this. RAMS BACK Chargers Maybe Also Back Way to stick the landing, Dean!
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    Next up, Campbell Camels. Old: Revamp: I'd love some C&C for this one, I feel like there's something a little off that needs fixing.
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