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The Weagle is a terrible logo.
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I personally think that's a bit farfetched. Although, I've always thought that the name, "Dodgers", was just another old timey name like the Red Sox, Giants, Reds, or White Sox.
True. Even though I know where the name came from, to me, a Dodger is just someone who plays baseball in LA. And a Laker is someone who plays basketball in LA.
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I feel that the "Jazz" nickname is, in many ways, more synonymous with Utah than New Orleans. Stockton and Malone, the '97 and '98 Finals against Jordan's Bulls, and Jerry Sloan's long tenure in Utah have all made it such an appropriate fit.
I don't see how that makes it an appropriate fit. Just because they have more history in Utah doesn't mean that the name makes more sense than it does for New Orleans. Jazz music is one of the things New Orleans is best known for. Utah is about as well known for jazz as Winnipeg is for beaches and bikinis.
People grew up saying "Utah Jazz", so when people say it, they don't give it a second thought, it's just "right" to them. Sure, "New Orleans Jazz" makes more sense when you think about it. Heck, if the Jazz moved from New Orleans to Utah today, I bet they would have renamed to something else.
Right. I am 41 and have probably been familiar with all NBA team names for 35 years. And I am not old enough to Remember the New Orleans Jazz. It's been Utah Jazz that entire time.
I hear the argument that they should have changed names when they moved, but now they have 35 years of history in Utah. They have a fan base that is accustomed to that being the team name. The ship has sailed and there's not much benefit to going back now. I don't think anyone in Utah is clamoring for a new name. And I don't think we have a Bobcats/Hornets situation in New Orleans where the entire community's support is dependent on the old name.
And yeah, Jazz is not great for Utah. But Dodgers was a very Brooklyn name and makes no sense for LA. Same with Lakers, which makes much more sense in Minnesota. Grizzlies in Memphis?
The Jazz move is a product of a different era. Some teams back then kept names (Flames, for Example). And while Jazz may not be the best one, it's reflective of the unique history of sports. Would they have kept the name if the move occurred today? No way. But sports history is fun and I think it's great to see that stuff like that happened. Why try to bury it?
If it were up to me, a team would either change names right upon relocation or never. So we'd have the Tennessee Oilers, New Orleans Hornets, etc.
Dodgers actually does make some sense for LA. That area is notorious for having some of the worst traffic in the country, so Dodgers could now refer to having to dodge your way through LA traffic, rather than Brooklyn trolleys.
And here's a much simpler (and possibly unpopular?) reason why the Jazz name should never go back to New Orleans: Because Pelicans is better.
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Do you have a specific example?
Miami's various modern looks come to mind.
South Carolina is another.
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I can't stand when a team wears a modern uniform from the neck down, yet stays with a traditional helmet stripe on the helmet. Am I the only one who doesn't like this?
No you are not.
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This...
...is better than this...
Agreed. I don't particularly love the M, but the interlocking TC is awful.
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Because khaki is a boring color for a sports uniform.
It also helps that everything else about those uniforms is far superior to what they currently wear.
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I always preferred the Manitoba Moose's old logo design over the newer one (ESPECIALLY over its newer recolored form):
That moose looks like he's about to slip something into your drink.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Capitals try to redo this uniform in red, white, and blue, actually. Just because they want to use more traditional patriotic colors doesn't mean they have to stick with a terrible logo, when they have a great one they've used for years.
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Going to miss these. All it needed was a removal of the beveling.
I have some other quibbles with these uniforms, but this is easily the best color scheme the Bucks have ever used. The new colors are just so dull by comparison.
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These Wisconsin helmets are outstanding. In fact, the Badgers should make these their primary helmets and integrate black in the rest of the uniform.
My reasoning? The Motion W has always been a good logo, but its modern style has never fit with Wisky's old-school uniforms, and it irked me that the only black in the uniform was on the logo. The addition of black updates the look enough to finally make the Motion W work, while still keeping a traditional striping pattern.
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Agreed re: the Canucks' logos. Johnny Canuck is bad, the stick-in-rink is pathetic, and the orca is great.
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This Warrior set (including the uniforms), were imo, the best look the franchise had. Don't get me wrong, the current look is a beautiful set, but it fails to match this look. Sure this set had it's flaws, like the 90's-tastic wordmark that accompanied it. But it had more highs than it did lows, like this beautiful logo and color scheme.
Those unis were the best
Disagree.
These are one of, if not the best uniforms in the NBA
Gotta ditch the Copperplate to even be considered the best.
I don't know why everyone hates the copperplate so much. Is it great? No. Its not bad though. I think it fits with the identity just fine. You guys seriously don't think that awful western-y font they used to have is better, do you?
Agreed. Copperplate is overused, but it is a good font. And this is one of the cases where it's used properly. I usually think of Copperplate as being used on architecture, which makes it a good fit for the team's current bridge motif.
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I love that uniform. Not really sure why. The dark jersey, along with the Raiders, is about as basic as it gets but I really, really loved that uniform.The Tillman-era jerseys were basically practice sets, no?
Actually, I thought they kept taking steps backwards on the white jersey and my love of it was over when they added the state flag.
I really liked the below set (though by now the sleeves on the white would obviously need to have changed)
Coming to this part of this discussion late, but wanted to say one thing about those White jerseys...
The "Northwestern"-style striping that was present on the White jerseys of that era, is duplicated in University of Phoenix Stadium behind the north-end scoreboard. The smaller scoreboard, on the closed end of the stadium (opposite the end where the field slides in).
I took a tour of the stadium a couple of years ago, and they were walking us all over to the lofts (suites) on that end of the stadium, and that exact pattern of Black-White-Red-White-Black-White-Red-White-Black was painted from floor to ceiling along that entire wall. It took me aback, and we were moving so quickly through there, I wasn't able to take a picture of it. Really regret not doing that.
I thought it was a great touch.
The Cardinals should just rip off the Houston Oilers' stripes. Black-white-red-white-black on the helmet, pants, and both jerseys.
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I loved the gray facemasks for the Browns, and I normally dislike gray facemasks for teams without gray in their color scheme (and even some teams that do have gray, like the Cowboys.) But brown and orange are such an old-fashioned color scheme that would never be chosen today for a brand new franchise, so the old-fashioned gray facemask worked.
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Apparently unpopular opinion of mine...
"Stick in rink" is a terrible logo that absolutely screams 1970s.
I concur. And I'll take it a step further and say that the orca logo is actually pretty damn good, and easily the best logo the Canucks have ever had.
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The Lions have the best look in the NFL.
Nah, I wouldn't go that far.........but I do think they look much better with black trim (and only trim) than without.
Agreed. Light blue and silver just don't work on their own. They need that black to provide some much-need contrast.
I actually do think that if the Lions fixed a few minor flaws (super skinny helmet stripe, super wide sleeve stripes, number font) they could have the best look in the league.
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I think the Milwaukee Bucks Irish Rainbow uniforms are vastly overrated. The current uniforms aren't perfect, but the forest green and red color scheme is gorgeous and shouldn't be messed with.
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I think the reds have some of the most boring logos and uniforms in all of professional sports. I don't know how they could be fixed, but it just think they're horrid
I agree, but I'll take it a step further into unpopular territory and say that their current look is actually the best they've ever had.
The problem is with the wishbone C. I like it for the Chicago Bears just fine, but it makes a lousy logo for a baseball cap.
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I love the Astros' rainbow jerseys and don't find them ugly. When you are a team based in the city of space launches, having colors of red, orange, and yellow are especially fitting. The gold/blue look just didn't cut it 20 years ago, and it still doesn't now.
The Astros don't play in Cape Canaveral.
You know, the line isn't "Cape Canaveral, we have a problem."
The previous post said "city of space launches." The launches are in Cape Canaveral. Mission Control is in Houston.
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NFL teams should always have wordmarks right under the collar. Jacksonville's soccer crest and Tampa Bay's complete absence of a wordmark are two major flaws that both of these uniforms suffer from.
See, I'd be happier if none of the NFL jerseys had wordmarks. Especially when they're as tiny as the ones NFL teams use. All they do is add visual clutter.
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The Brewers primary uniforms are fantastic. If anything, I'd change the number font and go with a slightly brighter blue..... but other than that, the brewers look fantastic.
I agree. The current identity is a great reflection of their nickname, unlike the generic ball-in-glove look (which I'm fine with as a throwback alternate, but they should never go back to them full time.) They just need to put Milwaukee on the road uniforms, and they'd be perfect.
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Vinny Testaverde
It's just a shame that a player whose name means "green head" only played for the Jets in the white helmet era.
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Just curious. Would Temple be the type of school the ACC would take in?
No, as long as Notre Dame is there for the taking.
Yes, because what the ACC really needs is another football school that isn't any good at football.
Yeah, yeah, I know, money, name ecognition, money, blah blah blah.
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Every time I look at it, all I can see it how anatomically FUBAR that eagle is. The forced W shape makes it look like its wings are coming out of its butt.