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Everything posted by andrewharrington

  1. They can be. It just takes a lot longer and is much more expensive, so it’s prohibitive if you, as a school athletic department, are constrained by time or money (the vast majority of them are constrained by both). Different jersey styles are sometimes made in different places with different equipment and different capabilities. What works at one place for a certain style of jersey may not work at another place or for a different style of jersey. For example, one jersey model might be made in the U.S. and whoever is making that product may have their operation tailored so that a small selection of stock stripe designs can be applied on demand, but not all facilities have the same capabilities and limitations. Another style might be made at a specialized factory in a different country, and obviously, there’s a much higher lead time and minimum order for something like that. Even a fully custom jersey from a domestic factory requires much more time than something from a team catalog. Certain facilities may even have exclusive contracts with brands. Similarly, the size of the embellishments is limited by the garment and the equipment used to apply them. You have to be able to lay and secure the panel in a completely flat position without the seams sticking up above the fabric surface. A sleeve panel on a game jersey is very small, and you’re further limited by what will fit on the smallest jersey size since you’re not making separate artwork for every size of jersey. The shoulder/sleeve area is also shaped to wrap around the pads, so getting it to lay flat is no walk in the park, either. It’s much different than a t-shirt or even a replica jersey, which is essentially a t-shirt. It’s not a perfect process by any means, but most universities and high schools aren’t designing and ordering jerseys 18 months in advance and they’re not subsidized by a huge apparel/equipment allowance like the big boys. It doesn’t change the fact that they still want the best garments, so you have to do what you can to offer your best products through the stock/catalog process. Something is better than nothing when it comes to the arms race that is sports uniforms, as evidenced by the ever-shrinking share cornered by the companies that used to dominate the industry (Wilson, Russell, Rawlings, etc.)
  2. C’mon. Obviously it’s not ideal, no one ever said, “I love the terrible stripes,” and no one gets satisfaction from having to compromise the look of a product when they know how great it can look when time and money are no object. The simple fact is decorating a pre-constructed garment has limitations. That’s just reality. Even on a t-shirt, you typically can’t post-embellish larger that that on a sleeve unless you’re doing every one completely by hand with custom-made equipment, and a jersey is much more difficult to post-embellish than a t-shirt.
  3. Because the stock catalog jerseys and pants for the Primeknit styles are shipped in blank and decorated in the U.S., there’s no way to apply seam-to-seam graphics on those. The only way to achieve seam-to-seam decoration is to apply the graphics before the panels are cut and sewn together, which becomes a completely custom uniform like the ones you see on Washington, Miami, or Texas A&M.
  4. Focus wouldn’t affect color, exposure, or balance, though, and any adjustment to those settings should theoretically affect the entire image, not just a single element within it. Either that particular helmet is a dud (maybe a bad batch of paint or something went wrong in the process of painting or refinishing it), or there’s something dark sitting next to it, out of frame.
  5. The keys are definitely a great Easter egg, one of the better ones I’ve seen in some time. I’m not sure how one would play that trumpet/bugle, though.
  6. If the Browns ever got rid of their orange helmets, they would, with 100% certainty, return after five years (barring something miraculous and impossible, like the team winning a Super Bowl ). So, hypothetically, why bother replacing them if you already know they’re coming back as soon as possible? Seems pretty short-sighted from a branding perspective, although not quite as short-sighted as ditching the single most identifiable feature of your 75-year old brand.
  7. If the helmet was glossy, I think the new orange would be passable, but as a matte finish, it looks like a dingy, dull, plastic construction barrel. I’m watching right now on multiple TVs, and it doesn’t look good on any of them. The fabrics are okay, but it looks very dark (too close to the Bucs’ red for my liking), and there’s quite a bit of variation in the staff apparel (comparing Freddie’s shirt to other coaches’).
  8. I always thought this one was genius, because it hits the trifecta: Frasier, Asian/Pacific culture, and endless high-rise construction.
  9. Good question. The NFL allowed the Jets to tinker with their face mask color midseason a few years ago, so at the very least I think they have a good argument for precedence.
  10. I also don’t think the Flyers embrace it quite as much as you think they do. T-shirts are one thing, but every project brief we get from them starts with “stay away from ‘Broad Street Bullies.’” Either way, these nicknames are fine, and they’re fun, but they feel kinda forced once the moment has passed, and I don’t think they have the staying power to be a permanent part of the team’s main uniform(s).
  11. I was responding to infrared’s anecdote with that one. Believe me, I appreciate getting back on topic. It doesn’t personally offend me. All I’m saying is just because you come from that culture and aren’t offended by the use of that term doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same (as evidenced by msu’s objection). On a message board where people donate their free time to try and keep things civil for the rest of us, it’s reasonable to implore the community to respect other members, most of whom come here for intelligent discussion, not stereotype-based name-calling (and that’s all-encompassing, not just “redneck”). Like I said, I’m pretty sure we’ll all survive and still be able to make our points without those terms, so why die on that hill?
  12. It’s pretty easy to mold your observation specifically to support your argument, and looking exclusively at hockey is going to give you a false conclusion. If you back your frame of reference out to the NBA (Charlotte and Memphis just to name two), college football (Iowa’s new third), and especially the larger sportswear and sport-inspired streetwear industries as a whole, however, it’s very easy to refute your argument. The 90s are very much a trend right now. I’d even argue that it’s been going for several years, and we’re probably on the back half of it already.
  13. You’re correct in that what they’ve done is a mess and it doesn’t look intentional, but I was under the impression we were talking about a theoretical redesign pairing a classic royal blue and gold (yellow) home uniform with a properly designed royal blue and white “Fearsome Foursome” road uniform companion, not the current blue/white road look with metallic gold. Essentially, this paired with this as a home and road set (with very minor updates to clean things up and make sure the designs match up with each other):
  14. And naturally, just because you’re not personally offended by something doesn’t mean everyone feels the same. Regardless of anyone’s opinion on the matter, those terms don’t exactly make the world a better place, and I promise we’ll all be fine without them. No reason to poke the bear.
  15. I suggest we just eliminate the guesswork and avoid using any slurs, regardless of the origin, the intent, or what category of superficial characteristic it disparages. We’re adults. How about that hockey?
  16. I like the idea. It would be unique in the NFL, and to me, it’s a nice “best of both worlds” approach. You get the fan favorite look at home, and you can have a look inspired by the Fearsome Foursome on the road (same general design as the home, but sans gold). I always preferred the homes to the roads anyway (in the blue and gold set), so I wouldn’t miss them too much. It’s really no different than the Detroit Tigers being a blue and white home team and a blue and orange road team, which works great. Of course, I think the best option is a blue and gold home/road and a blue and white third, but I think they can pull off the dual identity if they do it right (yes, I know that’s a very large “if”).
  17. Absolutely. If any team can (conceptually) pull of a really bright yellow, it’s the Chargers, and I think it’d be a smart way to differentiate themselves from the Rams. They already alienated all their fans, so they’re in the clear on that front. And that blue really is beautiful. Does anyone have a side-by-side with a Giants or Colts jersey? I’m curious how different they are or aren’t.
  18. Oh, I gotcha. Typically, those kinda of details are only implemented on the crest because of the size and nature of the medium. You can’t really reproduce details like that at smaller scales or in two-dimensional media (like most screen printing), so the print logo is just a solid colored bison. Essentially, the size and execution of a hockey crest allows you to add an extra layer of detail that you can’t achieve in most merchandise or even on other sports’ uniforms.
  19. There’s no actual shading on the art. It’s all done with embroidery. The logo on the 50th Jersey is just the 2018 Winter Classic crest with embroidered detail on it (and in dark blue/metallic gold, obviously)
  20. In what way? Angled 2s are not exclusive to hockey or any other sport. It’s just an athletic block typeface. A classic style with a unique quirk, at least to me, is a much better option than putting half the teams in the same style of number. Heck, the most “basebally” typeface of them all has an angled 2. It’s a bit incongruous that people want teams to have their own unique identities and cry foul when manufacturers try to homogenize custom details for the sake of efficiency... until it comes to a unique number set. Obviously it’s par for the course for designers to go too far, but this happens even if it’s still a very classic style with traditional roots and very subtle quirks.
  21. I don’t blame you, but you must have erased 2006-2010 from your memory.
  22. The Senators use it on their home and road crest, though, right?
  23. On t-shirts, sideline jackets, and hats... where it belongs.
  24. I forgot about those. Give me a red cap and a properly cut vest with the narrow shoulders (not just a sleeveless jersey) and we’re good, with or without pinstripes. I especially like the high number placement. Nothing looks sillier than a left-chest logo with a right-belly number.
  25. It’s not seen very often these days, but that was a fairly common stripe style back then. The thinking behind it here is that it’s an extension of the stripes from the 40th jersey (the four gold stripes representing four decades), with the blue stripe added to not only represent the fifth decade, but also to call back to the Sabres’ traditional gold/blue/gold stripes from their classic white jerseys. Essentially A plus B (but with the sleeves matching the hem):