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Everything posted by andrewharrington

  1. Oh, I gotcha. Typically, those kinda of details are only implemented on the crest because of the size and nature of the medium. You can’t really reproduce details like that at smaller scales or in two-dimensional media (like most screen printing), so the print logo is just a solid colored bison. Essentially, the size and execution of a hockey crest allows you to add an extra layer of detail that you can’t achieve in most merchandise or even on other sports’ uniforms.
  2. There’s no actual shading on the art. It’s all done with embroidery. The logo on the 50th Jersey is just the 2018 Winter Classic crest with embroidered detail on it (and in dark blue/metallic gold, obviously)
  3. In what way? Angled 2s are not exclusive to hockey or any other sport. It’s just an athletic block typeface. A classic style with a unique quirk, at least to me, is a much better option than putting half the teams in the same style of number. Heck, the most “basebally” typeface of them all has an angled 2. It’s a bit incongruous that people want teams to have their own unique identities and cry foul when manufacturers try to homogenize custom details for the sake of efficiency... until it comes to a unique number set. Obviously it’s par for the course for designers to go too far, but this happens even if it’s still a very classic style with traditional roots and very subtle quirks.
  4. I don’t blame you, but you must have erased 2006-2010 from your memory.
  5. The Senators use it on their home and road crest, though, right?
  6. On t-shirts, sideline jackets, and hats... where it belongs.
  7. I forgot about those. Give me a red cap and a properly cut vest with the narrow shoulders (not just a sleeveless jersey) and we’re good, with or without pinstripes. I especially like the high number placement. Nothing looks sillier than a left-chest logo with a right-belly number.
  8. It’s not seen very often these days, but that was a fairly common stripe style back then. The thinking behind it here is that it’s an extension of the stripes from the 40th jersey (the four gold stripes representing four decades), with the blue stripe added to not only represent the fifth decade, but also to call back to the Sabres’ traditional gold/blue/gold stripes from their classic white jerseys. Essentially A plus B (but with the sleeves matching the hem):
  9. They’re obviously referring to night sky, not day sky.
  10. I love the emphasis on yellow and white. This is the way to carve out a distinctive look. A blue jersey and socks at home and blue pants on the road would enough to ground it.
  11. That’s just a perfect uniform. Maybe add “REDS” in the counter of the C, but either way, a clean take on that look would be fantastic for Cincinnati.
  12. It’s a very good rework, though I think rounding *every* corner was one step too far. It leaves the mark feeling artificially soft, particularly when the outline is applied. It reminds me of applying a stroke to type in Photoshop; all the corners are rounded and it looks kinda unnatural and algorithmic. Leaving certain corners sharp (where warranted) would have made the full color logo feel more polished and charming.
  13. At least there’s a specific local story behind Nashville’s name. “Wild” always felt too generic and conceptual for a team name.
  14. To each their own, I guess. To me, it’s a lot cleaner and makes a lot more sense that every stat in the Browns record book was recorded by a Browns player in a Browns uniform, and every stat in the Ravens record book was recorded by a Ravens player in a Ravens uniform. I always imagine trying to explain these situations to a kid, and that’s why I think separating histories by brand works better. The “franchise” is just a corporation. The brand is what the fans connect with and support.
  15. If they had become the Baltimore Browns, I would have begrudgingly accepted the transfer of the records, and whatever team that did come to Cleveland would be a fresh new entity deserving of a fresh new record book. If they had stayed and changed their name, it would have felt like a different team and I would have no issue closing the Browns’ record book and opening a new one for the new team. The thing that would have made the least sense is having all Cleveland’s greatest players, stats, moments, and accomplishments credited to a team not called the Browns (and in a different city), while the Browns return with no credit for the history and brand they created in Cleveland. I guess I just see the relocation and changing of a team’s name as the biggest possible interruption in continuity that there is, so I have no issue with record books following that logic. Something is wrong (not to mention unnecessarily convoluted and confusing) when (hypothetically) Larry Johnson and Alonzo Mourning are in the Pelicans’ record books but not in the Hornets’ record books. Anything done to correct these situations gets a thumbs up from me.
  16. Certainly a step in the right direction, but it’s still a bit nonsensical that Hawerchuck and Selanne hold records in the Coyotes’ books (and numbers in the rafters) despite never playing for them. It’s positively disgusting to think that the Ravens’ record book could have looked like this: Baltimore Ravens Career Passing Leaders 1. Joe Flacco (38,245) 2. Brian Sipe (23,713) 3. Otto Graham (23,584) 4. Bernie Kosar (21,904) ...
  17. Not to mention the fact that the team somehow managed to get even worse after making the change, something I did not think was possible.
  18. It clearly bothers some people, but not me. Everything you’ve pointed out here supports leaving the branding and history behind if you decide to change the franchise name when you move. People from Winnipeg supported those teams, went to those games, cheered for those logos and uniforms, idolized Hawerchuck and Selanne, etc. Fans in central Arizona couldn’t care less about any of it. That’s why it doesn’t make much sense for them to hold onto the old Jets’ trademarks or celebrate the original team, and why it doesn’t make much sense for Jets alumni to play in Coyotes alumni games.
  19. It seems odd that they would set up the court in the Coliseum if they weren’t going to play there. EDIT: See above.
  20. I do have it, but I can’t share it. In general, if you’re looking for really nice sport-inspired typefaces, I highly recommend CJ’s Varsity Type Foundry. If what you’re looking for isn’t available, odds are he’s got something in the works, so keep an eye on the Varsity Type Instagram as well.
  21. But it does look much better with white pants than orange. The problem is that particular orange is just too dark to provide good contrast against the brown.
  22. I really miss the lighter teal in the top photo. What a great color for that team.
  23. No. That’s just an issue that could easily be fixed by not having open fronts on baseball jerseys. Sew that placket shut and it’s fine.
  24. I think Winter Classic succeeds because there’s a very clear design directive and expectation for what it’s supposed to look and feel like, as well as what it’s supposed to do for the league; in other words, it has its own established “brand.” Stadium Series has a tougher time because “the future” is much more theoretical and subjective than the past when it comes to design, so I think Stadium Series will always be a bit of an outlier to the point you’re trying to make. Overall, though, I think what you’ve said makes sense. I can see how New Jersey and Toronto can be perceived the way you describe them, but I also don’t think their previous looks were doing anything particularly creative or unique. I think somewhere between where they were and where they are, there’s great potential for both teams to have timeless looks with a lot of distinctive personality. Ironically, all the ones you mentioned in the second half of your post were essentially designed by the teams from the ground up after being presented initial rounds of design. Unfortunately, there’s just no way around that. Sometimes it’s cold feet, sometimes it’s one person or a group of people not being aligned with the brief given by the team’s marketing department, etc., but at the end of the day, the team is going to decide how they want to look. All you can do is try your best to convince them that your point of view is valuable for their identity and brand.