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  1. 4 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:


    So basically.... you don't know.


    You’re trusting a bunch of internet yahoos to supply credible scientific knowledge? 🙂


    Well in that case, the most advanced type that *I’m* aware of is essentially a thin, flexible film. It has a special coating that, by passing electricity through the film, can illuminate like an LED. For this, you’d wirelessly connect your device to it as if it’s any other screen-mirroring tech (like AirPlay), and it would probably make sense to operate only through a dedicated app so that only images generated in the app (jersey numbers and names) can be displayed on the jersey.

  2. 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

    How the hell does this work?




    Years and years of textile science R&D that everyone loves to hate on. 🙂


    Kidding aside, I think fabric as a tech and display medium is going to be a big part of the future. Imagine being able to fold your phone up like a lens cloth and stuff it into your pocket. Imagine a piece of fabric that unfolds and is a usable keyboard for your tablet. Imagine never having to worry about breaking your thousand dollar device. This particular application could be fantastic as a design tool (imagine being able to design the uniform directly on an athlete’s body), but I can’t tell if it’s actual fabric tech or just a good projection of some sort.


    Another part of me is salivating at the potential for disaster when people start hacking their jerseys and putting the most obscene of things on them.

  3. 52 minutes ago, dont care said:

    Because both are completely changing their entire identities for a day. Either way they are taking away from their primary brand and making their actual fans not expirience their best looks they’ve come to know and love. 


    But how many people care about an MiLB team’s dilution of their own brand when the act of dilution is often what makes the kids laugh and gets the parents to take the family out to the park for the “one night only” swag in the first place? The brand audience for an MiLB team compared to an MLB team is like a lemon compared to a bowling ball.

  4. 1 hour ago, Morgo said:


    I'm noticing a pattern too.  A pattern that has Adidas spending more time on trendy embellishments than the actual design of their jerseys.  How much better would the "stealth" stealth jerseys look if they'd taken contrast into consideration, how improved would the Hurricanes alternate look if "storm grey" wasn't confined to the yoke and how much better would Tampa's alternate look with some blue and white striping.  Make solid design first, then worry about the embellishments.


    Occasionally, a team will send you an image or description and say, “This is what we want it to look like.” Coincidentally, that’s what happened with all three of those (SJ, CAR, and TB).

  5. 2 hours ago, TheOldRoman said:

    ...there's no way Nike lets them...


    You’ve got it reversed. The outfitter might “suggest” ideas, but it’s the team who “lets” the outfitter execute those ideas (if they like them). If the team wants a royal blue helmet or if they want to add a hint of the growth ring detailing like the originals had, then it shall be. If they said not to touch them at all, then they’re going to remain the same. Simple as that.




    Side note: I think the 60s design below would be a great uniform for the team to start with. Essentially, it’s just a conversion of the sleeve horn into a shoulder stripe and their current home/road pants. Clean, minimal, and modern.


    Bringing in gold horns, a gold version of the pants and a blue and gold version of the top (maybe even a tastefully round number set as discussed) would be fit right in with the brief of “a modern version of the 70s/80s/90s throwbacks” and you could also wear it exactly as is in blue and white for a Fearsome Foursome throwback third.



  6. 8 hours ago, Section30 said:


    Black is not a part of the Wild's color scheme, if they were to add black it would be a major mistake. I think the Wild have had a pretty good uniform history overall, but a black jersey would completely ruin that IMO.


    I am intrigued about the MN state with the captain C and the script coming back though, just not on black.


    The Wild do more fan research than probably any other team in the league, so rest assured that whatever they choose to do in the future, they will have done their due diligence to make sure their core fans are excited about it.

  7. 12 minutes ago, ldconcepts said:

    Interesting. Were there any other options (pattern-wise) considered,


    Early on there probably was, but they didn’t use any of that stuff. This design came in later and was heavily driven by the team.

  8. 32 minutes ago, daniel75 said:

    It’s reflective.


    It’s actually just a sublimated gradient on a shiny twill base. The effect turned out pretty nice. Much better than I expected.


    Reflective would be great, though. Perfect team to do it for.

  9. 23 hours ago, Gothamite said:

    Not if they’re keeping the horns on the shoulders,  That’s the one thing that doesn’t really work on the modern jerseys, but it’s also the one thing the team insists on maintaining.


    Nike will probably give them a pointless custom number font, fixing a non-existent “problem”.


    I honestly don’t think they’ll keep the shoulder horns, and think the reason is it would make the new jersey too similar to the throwback. The general preference from a merchandising perspective is to have a marked difference between the two so that one doesn’t cannibalize the other in the market.


    I do think a number update would be welcome, though. The throwback numbers are fine, but they do have that “rec league” style like the Sixers’ numbers, and I think something more stylistically in tune with the curvaceous design of the horns would be welcome. I think a great solution could be as simple as a single color version of the St. Louis numerals, or something tastefully round like Virginia Tech’s numbers.




    If I’m putting money on it, though, I don’t expect to see that kind of restraint and more than likely it’s going to be an exercise in overthinking.

  10. 2 hours ago, uniformity said:


    It seems ridiculous that just anyone can trademark a defunct team brand despite having absolutely no connection to it. Same thing happened with the Vancouver Millionaires brand. It was trademarked by local musician Thor. He made a few t-shirts and then waited for the Canucks to come calling. He made more money off that trademark then he ever did on record sales. The NHL may or may not buy the rights to use Metropolitans as a team name. Either way there will be a demand for throwback merchandise so Kim was pretty smart. I just wish he would have trademarked Sockeyes, Kraken, and Steelheads so the team wouldnt consider those names.


    If no one owns it and no one’s using it, why shouldn’t he be able to file a trademark for it? It wouldn’t be fair to block a legitimate trademark filing simply because the requestor is an individual person rather than a large corporation.

  11. 12 minutes ago, AndrewMLind said:

    I don’t care where the game takes place, Lakers in gold/yellow vs Celtics in green looks much better than Lakers in purple and Celtics in white. 


    I definitely agree, but I still miss seeing those matchups once in a while. It shouldn’t take a finals appearance to see the two most iconic teams in the league in the uniform matchups that made them iconic in the first place.


    Even if that were to happen, we’d probably get some black Celtics and pinstripe Lakers jerseys thrown in just because it’s 2019.

  12. 2 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:


    Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. 


    This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. 


    But the act of securing a plan for a new stadium requires them to stay? It’s a business. They fulfilled their end of the deal and then they went to the city where they wanted to be/gave them the best terms for a new deal. End of story. Companies do this all the time. 

  13. 8 hours ago, guest23 said:


    From a pop culture critique perspective, both logos will be labeled as products of the late 2010's era of design much like how we critique many other logo trends as being byproducts of a particular era that they were designed in. The graphic design pros can split hairs all they want about angles and edges because that's a niche field and part of the profession.  I'm ready to preorder that corporate logo retrospective in hardcover highlighting nuances of the unapologetic boldness that took the graphic design world by storm as the late '10s made way into the '20s. 


    Yeah. I’ll order it, too, but I’ll bet you $100 Airbnb won’t be one of the case studies in it.


    Also, I wasn’t talking about “edge” in the physical sense. It was a synonym for the bold, provocative design language that is present in Montréal’s mid century revival but absent from the Airbnb identity.

  14. 11 hours ago, guest23 said:

    In case you haven't been paying attention mid-century modern has been a major contemporary design influence for almost 10 years now.


    Wow. You’re right. I must not have been paying attention to the design industry over the last ten years. 🙃


    Anyway, my point is that while both represent current trends, they are decidedly not cut from the same cloth and have little or no similarity in visual or emotional terms. Furthermore, one is based in a design movement that has a timeless longevity. The other, well, let’s just say I don’t think too many designers in 2050 are going to be buying a reissued hardcover of the Airbnb style guide for their bookshelves.

  15. 6 hours ago, Jezus_Ghoti said:

    Yeah this (admittedly terrible) mockup looks bad. 




    But make the jersey midnight green with silver numbers and all of a sudden it becomes a simple, modern take on the throwback, and a top 5 uniform in the league.

  16. 4 hours ago, L10nheart404 said:

    I live in Atlanta, and went to high school with Buster Skrine's sister. I ran into him on Monday at a CVS, and talked to him for a second. I asked if he saw the new uniforms, and he said" yeah, they're pretty dope, but a little flashy for my taste." So, interpret that how you like. Not claiming inside info, just a genuine tidbit I thought might help here.


    You get an A+ in tactfully presenting your information to the class.

  17. 7 hours ago, guest23 said:


    exactly the same contemporary design language...despite being a nice logo it will not age well.


    Airbnb is contemporary design language. Montréal’s identity is 100% rooted in mid-century design language. Looking at how the Airbnb identity is applied across the company’s consumer touch points, there couldn’t be less overlap between the two brands. Airbnb is purposefully designed with no edge; to be warm and inviting. Montréal, on the other hand is all edge, designed to be provocative and unapologetically bold.


    I was also talking with Brandon a bit about this, and I think one of the best things about it is its flexibility. If those trends die, this could very seamlessly evolve away from the outlines/uncomfortably bold blue and red look into something more traditional like a white helmet with a solid red bird and a return of the white shoulder loops and red sleeves.

  18. 1 hour ago, cajunaggie08 said:


    Besides going from a black to yellow name on back, what changed with the steelers uniforms? The fonts look the same


    They switched from standard block nameplate lettering to the Futura nameplate lettering they currently use.

  19. 7 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

    Whatever the Canucks do, I REALLY hope they don't revert to the old "Stick in Rink" logo as the primary. I know a lot of people love it, but I'll absolutely never understand why. It's one of my least favorite logos of all time and it's hard to find a logo that's lamer in execution than that one IMO. It's a stick over a "rink" that makes a C, but every single part of that explanation feels like a huge stretch. And it just comes across as such a dated product of 1970s fashion that it might as well be a canary yellow refrigerator with orange linoleum. I'd tolerate it as a shoulder logo, if they absolutely insisted, but it's a miserably weak primary logo. Especially when they have that Johnny Canuck logo, which is one of my absolute favorite logos of all time.


    I agree. The original version on the blue jersey actually bore some resemblance to a rink because it was white, but it’s kinda underwhelmingly composed beyond that. The stick is just kind of laying there, proportionally a bit small and thin. There’s so much nothing in the logo that you keep looking for the something, but it’s just not there. The “C” in the original mark is one of the biggest stretches of all time. If someone revealed that logo today and tried to claim it was a C, they’d get laughed out of the industry. The new one tries to address the issues, but I don’t think it works as well as it could. It’s not white, and while the stick has better presence, it’s angled so slightly that it almost looks accidental. The pile of outlines are unnecessary, and the C still leaves something to be desired, even though it’s more defined than the original.