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Everything posted by andrewharrington

  1. They’re obviously referring to night sky, not day sky.
  2. I love the emphasis on yellow and white. This is the way to carve out a distinctive look. A blue jersey and socks at home and blue pants on the road would enough to ground it.
  3. That’s just a perfect uniform. Maybe add “REDS” in the counter of the C, but either way, a clean take on that look would be fantastic for Cincinnati.
  4. It’s a very good rework, though I think rounding *every* corner was one step too far. It leaves the mark feeling artificially soft, particularly when the outline is applied. It reminds me of applying a stroke to type in Photoshop; all the corners are rounded and it looks kinda unnatural and algorithmic. Leaving certain corners sharp (where warranted) would have made the full color logo feel more polished and charming.
  5. At least there’s a specific local story behind Nashville’s name. “Wild” always felt too generic and conceptual for a team name.
  6. To each their own, I guess. To me, it’s a lot cleaner and makes a lot more sense that every stat in the Browns record book was recorded by a Browns player in a Browns uniform, and every stat in the Ravens record book was recorded by a Ravens player in a Ravens uniform. I always imagine trying to explain these situations to a kid, and that’s why I think separating histories by brand works better. The “franchise” is just a corporation. The brand is what the fans connect with and support.
  7. If they had become the Baltimore Browns, I would have begrudgingly accepted the transfer of the records, and whatever team that did come to Cleveland would be a fresh new entity deserving of a fresh new record book. If they had stayed and changed their name, it would have felt like a different team and I would have no issue closing the Browns’ record book and opening a new one for the new team. The thing that would have made the least sense is having all Cleveland’s greatest players, stats, moments, and accomplishments credited to a team not called the Browns (and in a different city), while the Browns return with no credit for the history and brand they created in Cleveland. I guess I just see the relocation and changing of a team’s name as the biggest possible interruption in continuity that there is, so I have no issue with record books following that logic. Something is wrong (not to mention unnecessarily convoluted and confusing) when (hypothetically) Larry Johnson and Alonzo Mourning are in the Pelicans’ record books but not in the Hornets’ record books. Anything done to correct these situations gets a thumbs up from me.
  8. Certainly a step in the right direction, but it’s still a bit nonsensical that Hawerchuck and Selanne hold records in the Coyotes’ books (and numbers in the rafters) despite never playing for them. It’s positively disgusting to think that the Ravens’ record book could have looked like this: Baltimore Ravens Career Passing Leaders 1. Joe Flacco (38,245) 2. Brian Sipe (23,713) 3. Otto Graham (23,584) 4. Bernie Kosar (21,904) ...
  9. Not to mention the fact that the team somehow managed to get even worse after making the change, something I did not think was possible.
  10. It clearly bothers some people, but not me. Everything you’ve pointed out here supports leaving the branding and history behind if you decide to change the franchise name when you move. People from Winnipeg supported those teams, went to those games, cheered for those logos and uniforms, idolized Hawerchuck and Selanne, etc. Fans in central Arizona couldn’t care less about any of it. That’s why it doesn’t make much sense for them to hold onto the old Jets’ trademarks or celebrate the original team, and why it doesn’t make much sense for Jets alumni to play in Coyotes alumni games.
  11. It seems odd that they would set up the court in the Coliseum if they weren’t going to play there. EDIT: See above.
  12. I do have it, but I can’t share it. In general, if you’re looking for really nice sport-inspired typefaces, I highly recommend CJ’s Varsity Type Foundry. If what you’re looking for isn’t available, odds are he’s got something in the works, so keep an eye on the Varsity Type Instagram as well.
  13. But it does look much better with white pants than orange. The problem is that particular orange is just too dark to provide good contrast against the brown.
  14. I really miss the lighter teal in the top photo. What a great color for that team.
  15. No. That’s just an issue that could easily be fixed by not having open fronts on baseball jerseys. Sew that placket shut and it’s fine.
  16. I think Winter Classic succeeds because there’s a very clear design directive and expectation for what it’s supposed to look and feel like, as well as what it’s supposed to do for the league; in other words, it has its own established “brand.” Stadium Series has a tougher time because “the future” is much more theoretical and subjective than the past when it comes to design, so I think Stadium Series will always be a bit of an outlier to the point you’re trying to make. Overall, though, I think what you’ve said makes sense. I can see how New Jersey and Toronto can be perceived the way you describe them, but I also don’t think their previous looks were doing anything particularly creative or unique. I think somewhere between where they were and where they are, there’s great potential for both teams to have timeless looks with a lot of distinctive personality. Ironically, all the ones you mentioned in the second half of your post were essentially designed by the teams from the ground up after being presented initial rounds of design. Unfortunately, there’s just no way around that. Sometimes it’s cold feet, sometimes it’s one person or a group of people not being aligned with the brief given by the team’s marketing department, etc., but at the end of the day, the team is going to decide how they want to look. All you can do is try your best to convince them that your point of view is valuable for their identity and brand.
  17. The issue is how the old shoulder insert was constructed. The stripes were separate strips of dazzle fabric either joined to or stacked on top of each other, which was a very rare technique (I feel like it’s been decades since anyone constructed a shoulder insert like that). The new panels are either inlaid rib knit (this is how most LSU-style inserts are done), or they’re just sublimated panels that are inlaid the same way the rib knit ones are. When a garment is supposed to stretch and form to the body, adding a patch is counter to the function. The patch itself does not stretch, and the thread used to attach it likely does not, either. Even seams inhibit a fabric’s stretch, which is one reason why you’re seeing more sublimated pant stripes instead of inlaid rib knit these days. What ends up happening is the area where the patch or seam is applied can’t stretch as intended, and the surrounding areas have to pick up the slack, resulting in warped stripes, more stress on the areas around the patch, faster wear in that area, greater chance for failure, and inhibited comfort and range of motion (you can see below, especially on the player at the far right, how the patches pinched and warped the stripes when their natural pliability should allow them to stretch around the hip in that area). Taking into account that it’s completely ridiculous and unnecessary to have 6 (or even 4) of the same logo on the uniform, I think the choice is easy, and they made the best one here.
  18. I get it. It’s not exactly a conventional look, but I think that has as much to do with how few opportunities there are to showcase it than how good it looks. I happen to like white pants against a dark jersey with non-white numbers (if done right, obviously). I often find that non-white numbers paired with pants of the same color make for a uniform that’s too rich and saturated. The white pants offer a rest for the eyes. The Steelers’ throwbacks from a few years back come to mind. I think the reason it would work for the Chargers is because the gold bolt on the helmet, the gold numbers, and gold bolt on the pants carry the color throughout the uniform and make gold more of a co-primary color with the white and blue (which act as background colors). Making the numbers white starts to relegate gold to tertiary status, which is fine, but I think the gold numbers really made that uniform distinctive and lively. They tend to look a little more, I don’t want to say “drab” because we’re talking about very vibrant colors, but they definitely look less electric when the blue and white dominate with gold playing such a minor role.
  19. I think white pants would look fine with it. Gold and white are sprinkled pretty evenly around that uniform, and there’s enough of both to not make one or the other look odd. Dark blue as their primary color never really did it for me, but I don’t have a preference between the light blue or the medium blue. They both look great and the team shuffled back and forth between light and medium blue throughout their early years. They just need to pick one and form a clear identity.
  20. Can you give an example of a jersey template that is “full-baked” and/or an “actual creation?”
  21. The best part about this was changing the bolt’s light blue outline to dark blue, giving the logo a crisper, bolder look.
  22. It might look better, but does it really “work?” Those Ns look like solid rectangles at a distance. The A is practically filled in as well.
  23. Probably to get rid of the little shards and tight intersections where the serifs of the U meet the angles of the A. You’ll also notice that they didn’t actually move the A up. They actually moved it down (check how the serifs of the A meet the curves of the U), but then they made the U a little shorter so the two characters are the same height (the U was much taller than the A before, which is kinda strange if you think about the hierarchy). I think you have to be careful about moving the A too low in their logo because there’s a tipping point where it starts to read as UA rather than AU. Someone brought it up above, and I agree the end result of this update is that the characters don’t read as individual letters quite as well, but I think that’s okay. A monogram isn’t necessarily intended to be read like a word. It’s intended to exist as a distinctive shape and/or composition that happens to be made of the pertinent character(s). I think the changes they made here result in a much more clean and concise composition and form without sacrificing the equity and recognizability for the average person.
  24. This is not an actual redesign, by the way; just a designers’ idea.