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8 hours ago, mjarvie said:

If you're not going to go with Eagles or Grizzlies, then I say go with Gulls. I know a lot of people would question that but it is the state bird. Or go with the state animal, Elk. Any of those four are simple and solid. 

I could get on board with the Utah Screaming Eagles.

Buying the Grizzlies IP is still my first choice.

I saw a huge post of possible names and some of the ones I could get behind:

Utah Grizzlies (by far my favourite)

Utah Blizzard (but too close to an Avalanche I think)

Salt Lake City Saints

Salt Lake City Eagles (have to drop the "Golden" because of the Knights)

Salt Lake City Olympics (I mean the Expos did it so why not?)

Just buy out the Grizzlies name from the ECHL team and call it a day.  Don't need to take the whole identity with them, just the name and build a whole new identity.

On 5/17/2023 at 7:59 PM, Sodboy13 said:

The Québec City metro area has an estimated population of 840,000-850,000, putting it on par with metropolitan statistical areas like North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, and Columbia, SC. The Hartford MSA is a shade over 1.2 million, by the way.

 

The Canadian Dollar is worth 74 American cents, which oddly, was also the going rate in May of 1995.

 

The American TV partners probably would not be thrilled trading out Market 10 (even given the current l-o-l state of interest in the NHL there) for a foreign country and language, and those deals are worth a whole lot more real money than they used to be.

 

Short of a bulletproof billionaire coming in for QC like one did for Winnipeg, it all seems like a really tough ask, no matter how much the city loves its hockey and misses its team.

Not to mention the francophone issue.  They had a huge problem attracting marquee players to Quebec City because the press and the locals wanted francophones or players who would learn and speak french.  They got unbearable towards english-speaking players who didn't try to learn or speak french.  So that's how you got the Nords tanking so hard and always getting high draft picks that ended up creating the Colorado juggernaut. With a larger pool of international and American-born players the language issue looms large.

Montreal is different but kinda the same.  Montreal is a mostly bilingual city whereas QC is definitely not.  The Montreal french press doesn't really like people who speak on behalf of the Habs unilingually, but if you at least make an effort in french you're pretty much okay and they'll tolerate you. 

The media market in Montreal is pretty much 50/50 French vs. English.  Quebec has 17 radio stations and 15 of them are french. The only 2 english stations are CBC stations.  They also have no english daily paper.  French is king in QC which is why it's a very hard sell.

Show me one non-francophone marquee player from the 80's or 90's who actually wanted to play in QC.  I'll wait.

21 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

I'm going to split the difference here. 

 

@Chromatic's analysis is 100% right. I see no problem with the Sens leaning into the Roman motif.  It's just that in the Sens' case, the brand hasn't been resonant outside of their market, and maybe is even questionable within it.

 

To me, that gives the franchise justification for a wholesale rebrand. But I wouldn't necessarily place the blame on the fact that they chose this Roman imagery to build around. I could see a rebrand continuing down that path, only with more appealing design. 

 

 

And let's be honest, with the upcoming sale there is more of a chance of wholesale rebrand than at any point in the last 30 years.  The new owners are going to want to put their mark on the team and maybe make big changes to the identity in the coming seasons.  I wouldn't be surprised to see a whole new identity come with a new downtown arena around 2026 or 2027 (assuming the new owners don't mess up that opportunity like Melnyk did).

11 hours ago, the admiral said:

I think the Peace Tower is compelling as supporting imagery, but the Roman senator concept was a clever one worth committing to. All that Times New Roman O stuff has never done it for me.

It's funny because I remember the outrage around here when the Roman concept was unveiled around 1992.  But, like anything, people warmed up to it.  I also feel like the Sens should have really owned the gold laurel leaf motif from the early-00's alt sweater, but now it's Vegas' thing.  For a Peace Tower logo I still really like the shoulder logo from that laurel leaf jersey.  They should replace the S logo on the shoulders with a version of that.

I also did like the =O= logo and I think it works for this team and the history of the original franchise.  I'd love to see that as an alternate again.

Vancouver Canucks stick-in-rink. I hate that crappy, bland, generic logo with a passion.

I agree, but it's still the best logo they've ever had which is probably why it gets so much (baffling) love. The Canucks need to blow it all up and start from scratch again. But since that logo is so (unbelievably) beloved I don't see them ever being able to escape it.

Just tried it again and now it's happening every single time I click a topic - and even after I click "back" to go back. It shows me the topic for a second then switches to women's health.

Not only that, but even when I click on forums (which doesn't cause the redirect like topics do) it launches tabs to advertiser sites.

I'm done with this on iPad. If it starts happening on phone i may need to be done all together since that's my primary posting method now.

I totally get the need for ads, but there's a difference between an advertisement and totally hijacking your device. I apologize if this is just a virus or something that's specific to my particular device, and I know that it's not like CC or whoever is sitting there consciously making this happen, but I hope it can stop.

I have zero problems with the site and my iPad. I'm using Chrome for iOS to view it and not a single issue. I think you've got something else going on there. But it's not the site's fault I'm pretty sure of that.

Thanks for those amazing 26 games Bobby. Good thing we didn't have to trade away anyone that was good.

Wait, when did Mr. Orr play for the Blackhawks?

In 1976-77 and again in 1978-79 for a total of 26 games.

At the end of the 1976 season, the Bruins offered Orr one of the most lucrative contracts in sports history, including over 18% ownership in the Bruins organization. However, Eagleson, who by this time was doubling as Orr's agent and executive director of the NHLPA, falsely told Orr that the Chicago Black Hawks had a better deal and never told Orr about the Bruins' offer of part-ownership. Years later, it emerged that Eagleson had very good relations with Black Hawks owner Bill Wirtz, and frequently colluded with owners he favored to hold down salaries.

Orr subsequently signed with Chicago, but his injuries rendered him too severely hurt to play effectively, and, after playing in only 26 games over the next three seasons, retired in 1979. Famously, he never cashed a Chicago pay check, stating that he was paid to play hockey and would not accept a salary if he wasn't playing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Orr

Darryl Sittler with the Flyers??

I'm just the right age to have started following hockey not too long after Sittler moved to the Flyers and that's the still main image I have of him in my head. So, to me, Sittler in a Leafs uni looks strange. Yeah, I know. Sounds weird.