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Just a couple of random thoughts on the past few pages of posts: 1. The Cardinals road uniforms are probably my favorite new NFL uni-related thing. And I agree with the thought that part of it is that the silver really helps. 2. OTOH, the Cardinals home uniforms are awful, just because we all know how close they were to doing something as good (or close to as good) as the roads. 3. The Bucs should wear the original orange uniforms twice a season, once at home, once on the road. 4. Tampa's regular uniforms need to lean more towards their original design: a pewter that is actually pewter and not a dull brown, and use the more treasure map version of the helmet logo.

It's likely an unpopular opinion here, but I have always thought that the NY Jets could have done much more interesting branding with the addition of a lighter blue to their green/white color scheme. In Nikespeak, they could even claim it represents the skies that Jets fly through. It certainly would be better than adding black IMHO (and would really help to distinguish them from the Eagles, too).

Oh, I was aware of the Indians and Cubs use of the wishbone C, well before age nine. See, when I was four and five, we lived with my maternal grandmother (in the house my mother grew up in) while my dad went back to school for his four-year degree. My grandmother was a lifelong baseball fan, and I really developed my love of sports from her -- first baseball, then hockey, and basketball. The one sport she wasn't super-passionate about was football, which is why I don't believe I'd even watched a complete NFL game on TV until about 1978 or 1979 (Dad got me into football at that time, partially, I think, as a makeup for how busy he had been when he returned to school). So, why do I (to this day) always associate the wishbone C with the Reds? Some of it is simply because they were the dominant National League team in the late 1970s (Grandma was an NL baseball fan, a definition I always have to explain to modern MLB fans). In my mind, that logo, no matter the colors used, screams out, "Big Red Machine"!

Forty plus years ago, when I first became an NFL fan as a kid, there were three helmet logos that I thought, even in my then nine-year-old mind, were overdue for a modernization. The first was Cincinnati's "Bengals" helmet; the second was the Patriots (I also wondered why their dark uniform was red and not blue); and the third was the Bears, who clearly needed to stop stealing their helmet logo from the Cincinnati Reds. Funny how one of those still hasn't changed after all this time. (BTW, nine-year-old me also wondered why the Browns had no logo; but that also bothered me a whole lot less).

So, just for kicks, I went to Bing's Image Creator, typed in "New Arizona Cardinals helmet white background yellow beak", and got... ...well, let's just say Nike's never done anything as bad or awful as that. One of the four images literally had a logo where half of the decal wasn't stuck to the helmet but was hanging off in the air, like someone stopped applying the decal halfway through attaching it to the shell. And it might have been the best of the four.

IDK, I still like the reaction to the new logo from my neighbor's five-year-old daughter, who immediately made the correlation to our local Tex-Mex restaurant , "Why did they put the taco holder from Azteca on their helmet?" I keep going back-and-forth between calling the team "The Commies" and "The Taco Holders". And I still think they should have kept WFT, uniforms included.

I hear the phrase "Pewter Power" and all I can think of is third grade recess in the late 1970s with kids playing with their Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica toy ships making, "pew - pew" sounds for the laser cannons.

I just find myself shocked to find out that the Jets have green in their color scheme.

IDK, my reaction to whole second helmet thing is that it will be exactly like new uniform sets: Some of them will be god awful. Some of them will be good. The percentage of them that become "classic" uniform elements after more than a few seasons will be small; BUT among the best will be those that either are a throwback, or are inspired by a throwback. #3 doesn't necessarily exclude the idea that something new will fit in that category, but I suspect it will be a smaller subset. IMHO, an example from another sport of #4 is the LA Lakers white jersey -- while I'll even admit that I was not a fan of them when they were introduced, I do think they've been used enough now that when people think of an LA Lakers jersey, they think of the purple set, the yellow set, and the white set (not yellow and purple exclusively).

And way too many teams wearing helmets, facemasks, chin straps, jerseys, pants, socks, and shoes. Damnit, USFL, where's the team that was going to dress its players in a full suit of armor? The lack of innovation and sameness here is just astounding!

So, if they ever moved back into Phoenix proper, they could rebrand as the "Phoenix Pyrrhuloxias"? I'll let myself out now.

Of course, I now feel like I owe both TruColor and the Pantone people an apology.

"Classic Yellow Cheddar"?

Personally, I think that using "Velveeta" as a description for their yellow is off the mark -- there's IMHO not enough orange in the new color, which makes this an insult to Kraft's fine (sort of) cheese product. (Yes, for those who don't get it; I'm joking) (Maybe...)

Anyone have any idea what weird objects Nike will put on an NFL helmet next? I mean after the Banana Moons out in LA, and the new Washington Taco Holders, what will those Nike designers come up with next?

Or Just Clevejack the thread again, please!

Particularly in Lombardi's era, (late 1950s thru the early 1970s), I am sure that a lot of uniform color decisions came down to "this is what the manufacturer can provide". I also think that this is something that tends to be forgotten considering what can be done today. In fact, when a manufacturer has trouble producing a proper color (Hello, Eagles); it becomes a "failure" by that manufacturer.