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Some people on here take themselves way to seriously. anyway Louisville hasn't won a national title in a long while.

8 trips to the dance in the past 9 years is more than any team in the SEC not named Kentucky can say. Doesn't everyone from the Big East get in the tourney anyway

To be honest I don't really see anything great about the Louisville program. Football sucks. Basketball program is legendary but hasn't won jack in years. Nice new arena. That's about it.

SEC should really go after Clemson as the 14th member. South Carolina would hate it but so what. That 20 million buy out fee would suck big time for the Tigers though.

I still think the Big 12 is far from rock steady. It's safe for at least the 2012 season. Missouri to the SEC and how about Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State to the Pac-12. Basically everyone tells Texas to goes "F" themselves.

Just for :censored:s and giggles The new Big East football conference EAST Cincinnati, Louisville, Memphis, South Florida, UCF, West Virginia WEST Baylor, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, TCU

SEC is more likely to take Missouri as it's 14th member than West Virginia

Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville and UConn to the ACC. West Virginia and Rutgers get left out. WVU goes to the SEC. Rutgers scrambles.

Texas in the ACC would be absurd. Let's have Oregon join the SEC while were at it. Greed a.k.a. The Lust For Money has destroyed rivalries and tradition.

5 writers opinions over at Rivals.com on the 64 schools that would comprise the four 16-school super conferences and their reasoning for leaving certain schools out: OLIN BUCHANAN Paring FCS down to 64 teams would be difficult and a lot of feelings surely would be hurt. But I always say not everybody can play at the $100 tables. So, I'd make up my list of teams that typically draw a lot of fans, have at least a history of some reasonably recent success, have national appeal or are fortunate enough to be part of successful conferences. So, I'd start my list with all the teams in the Big Ten, Pac-12 and the SEC with the exception of Vanderbilt. So there's 35 teams. I surprise myself by also deciding to keep all eight teams from the Big East and TCU to bring my list to 44. That would leave 20 slots open. The 10 most obvious teams to include are Notre Dame, BYU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Clemson, Florida State and Virginia Tech. So, with nine available spots I'd also keep Missouri, Boise State, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Kansas State, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, N.C. State and Virginia. But, frankly, I'd rather keep college football as it is. MY 64 SCHOOLS Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, Boise State, Boston College, BYU, California, Cincinnati, Clemson, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina State, North Carolina, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, South Carolina, Stanford, Syracuse, TCU, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Texas, UCLA, USC, USF, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Washington, Washington State, West Virginia and Wisconsin TOM DIENHART A school must be able to justify its spot at the table by showing what it brings to a league from a TV standpoint. That's what drives conference realignment. A school is hurt by being traditionally bad, small and in a state that already has a strong school that usually fields a good team. And since football has greater money-making potential than basketball, the quality of hoops doesn't matter. With that, here are the current Big Six members who didn't make my cut: Baylor, Duke, Iowa State, Kansas State, Vanderbilt and Wake Forest. MY 64 SCHOOLS Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, Boise State, Boston College, BYU, California, Cincinnati, Clemson, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, South Carolina, Stanford, Syracuse, TCU, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UCLA, USC, USF, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Washington, Washington State, West Virginia and Wisconsin. DAVID FOX I selected my 64 teams based on a number of factors, but the primary factor is commitment to competing at a high level in football and a history of such commitment. If it's my 64-team format (which I am not in favor of), this at least needs to be a committed bunch. Their fans and alumni need to be committed as well. We keep hearing that TV markets are important in conference realignment. They are, but do you think Tuscaloosa is a big television market? No. Alabama is on top of the college football world because every Alabama (and likely many Auburn fans) watch the Crimson Tide win or lose, up year or down year. I had the most difficulty in cutting basketball-first schools from the mix, or schools with an overall good athletic program but lousy football (i.e., Vanderbilt). Since football is the primary driver, the basketball-first schools I included at least had to put together an honest effort to compete in football the past 10 or 20 years. That's why I included Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina but not Duke, Indiana or Memphis. MY 64 SCHOOLS Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, Boise State, Boston College, BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, SMU, South Carolina, Stanford, Syracuse, TCU, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UCF, UCLA, USC, USF, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. MIKE HUGUENIN The move to four 16-team "super conferences" would kill college sports as we know it - making football so important as to render every other sport basically meaningless - but because there is one more dollar out there that can be sucked up, it appears that the powers-that-be are hell-bent on going for it. TV money is the driving force behind this, and I decided that in some coin-flip situations - is this school in or out? - TV markets would be the deciding factor on whether to include certain programs or send them packing. Basketball prominence doesn't figure into this because it sure as heck seems as if it doesn't matter in "real life," either. MY 64 SCHOOLS Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, Boise State, Boston College, BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, South Carolina, Stanford, Syracuse, TCU, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UCF, UCLA, USC, USF, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. STEVE MEGARGEE There currently are 66 teams in the six major conferences. Once we add Boise State, BYU, Notre Dame and TCU to the mix, that leaves us with 70 schools that have a good case for being included in our group of 64. So which six schools do we leave out? I seriously considered cutting Connecticut (a relative FBS newcomer), Duke, Indiana, and Kansas before deciding the strength of their basketball programs probably would require that they remain included. But I thought about it again and decided Duke's basketball program could do just fine without being included in this super-conference setup. Duke's small enrollment and lack of recent football success otherwise made the school an ideal prospect to get cut. So Duke is out. Now I had to cut five more schools. I focused on schools that either had small enrollments or remote locations. In most cases, they also hadn't been successful lately. Vanderbilt's in a great location - heck, I live in Nashville - but its relatively small enrollment and its lack of recent success knocked it out. The enrollment factor also caused me to cut Wake Forest. I didn't want to cut any schools with BCS bowl experience, but Wake's 2006 ACC title seems more like an aberration with each passing year. Enrollment certainly isn't a problem for Washington State, but its remote location and a lack of recent success cause me to knock them out. And since the Big 12's on the verge of implosion, I get the feeling that conference's members would get hurt the most, particularly those schools in remote locations. That's why I considered knocking out Baylor, Iowa State and Kansas State. Of those three schools, Kansas State's the only team that has appeared in a BCS game. So the Wildcats survive, while Baylor and Iowa State are the last two cuts. MY 64 SCHOOLS Alabama, Arizona, Arizona State, Arkansas, Auburn, Boise State, Boston College, BYU, California, Cincinnati, Clemson, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, LSU, Louisville, Maryland, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Oregon State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, South Carolina, USC, USF, Stanford, Syracuse, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, TCU, Texas Tech, UCLA, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

Boise State will never be in the Pac-12, 14 or 16. Case closed. Let's move on.

To quote myself:

UTEP and appealing do not fit together

Pete Fiutak over at collegefootballnews.com envisions four 18 school leagues:

LAND OF THE MEGA CONFERENCES SEC East Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt West Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas A&M PAC-16 North California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington State South Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah ACC Atlantic Boston College, Connecticut, Louisville, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia Coastal Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest BIG 16 Legends Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Notre Dame Leaders Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Wisconsin

The Sporting News thinks the SEC might consider Louisville? Really?

If Phoenix moves to Quebec EASTERN CONFERENCE Atlantic Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington Northeast Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Quebec, Toronto WESTERN CONFERENCE Central Division Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St.Louis, Winnipeg Pacific Division Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Vancouver

What? This never happened. You're confusing the Blackhawks with the Blues, and Milwaukee with Saskatoon, and I'd rather prefer that you did neither. What happened was Lloyd Pettit, who used to do Blackhawks pbp, married into the Allen-Bradley fortune and wanted to bring an NHL team to Milwaukee. However, he was stymied by celebrated bastard Bill Wirtz, who claimed that Milwaukee was part of the Blackhawks' territory, even though the only presence they had in the market was that their radio coverage was on an AM station that reaches southern Wisconsin clearly. It was a really crappy move that salted the NHL earth in what by rights would've been a better piece of the puzzle than most of the mickey mouse operations that joined the league in the '90s. I think the Hawks played a few games at the Bradley Center, but there was never any plan for Chicago's liquor/real estate baron to move the team to another, much smaller city. I remember that too. Milwaukee was all set to get an expansion team and that dick Wirtz went a :censored:ed it all up.

My plan is pretty much identical to yours with Phoenix to Houston, Florida to Kansas City and Columbus to Quebec. I would have Boston in the Atlantic and Pittsburgh in the Northeast. I'm still not sure if Kansas City will end up with a team (to be honest I don't think they ever will).

I see you like my realignment idea I wouldn't be surprised to see the league just drop conferences all together and just be one league with 4 divisions.

But what happens if Phoenix relocates after the 2011-2012 season. Does Bettman want this team to flounder in Arizona forever? He has to put his ego aside for once. Also you could have problems with Florida or Columbus in the very near future. I still like my plan if the Phoenix Coyotes relocate to Houston after 2011-2012. But that's still a big if. 16 teams in the East. 14 teams in the West. Yeah it's unbalanced. Eastern Conference Atlantic - Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington Northeast - Boston, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Toronto Western Conference Central - Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg Pacific - Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Vancouver or for :censored:s and giggles you can look way ahead and say after Phoenix moves to Houston, Florida moves to Kansas City and then Columbus moves to Quebec City. So then you go to 15 in the East and 15 in the West: Eastern Conference Atlantic - Boston, Carolina, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington Northeast - Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Quebec, Toronto Western Conference Central - Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg Pacific - Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Vancouver

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the idea of having 14 teams in one conference and 16 in the other. It's making it unfairly difficult for the bottomfeeders of the Eastern Conference as compared to the bottomfeeders of the Western Conference. How about having 15 teams in each conference, with 8 teams in one division and 7 in the other, per conference. How about moving DET from the Northeast Division to the Central Division, for example? Just a thought. Yeah I kind of thought the 16-14 split would be unfair to the eastern bottom feeders but I put all the teams geographically by time zone to make it easier on travel. This all could be changed again especially with the difficulties of Florida, Columbus and N.Y. Islanders. Who knows?

NHL Realignment for 2012-2013 after a possible move by Phoenix to Houston and a Winnipeg move to the Western Conference The conferences are unbalanced with 16 in the East and 14 in the West Western Conference Pacific Division (All teams in Pacific and Mountain time zones) Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Vancouver Central Division (All teams in Central time zone) Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg Eastern Conference (All teams in Eastern time zone) Northeast Division Boston, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Toronto Atlantic Division Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, N.Y. Islanders, N.Y. Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington

Shows how much you know. The St Pete Times Forum was opened in 1996, and is going through new renovations now. The Honda Center was opened in 1990. Also, the Lightnings' new ownership improved the Lightning 12th seed to the Eastern Conference Finals in one season. I think he was talking about when the franchises were handed out in 1993, Tampa Bay had no arena and a much weaker ownership group at the time, not today in 2011. I apologize if I didn't clarify things a little better but McCall is right in what I meant. What did I say? I was pointing out that you were right in correcting raysox on what I meant to say about picking Anaheim over Tampa Bay

Shows how much you know. The St Pete Times Forum was opened in 1996, and is going through new renovations now. The Honda Center was opened in 1990. Also, the Lightnings' new ownership improved the Lightning 12th seed to the Eastern Conference Finals in one season. I think he was talking about when the franchises were handed out in 1993, Tampa Bay had no arena and a much weaker ownership group at the time, not today in 2011. I apologize if I didn't clarify things a little better but McCall is right in what I meant.