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You might want to try your math again when you add up the three scores, but at least you finally see what the data shows. And where are you getting UNR is one of the fastest growing universities? Enrollment hasn't really spiked up since 2007. UNR's 4-year graduation rate is 15%. It's 6-year rate is 48%. Less than half the undergraduates finish school in six years. It's tough to grow when people are leaving. I meant physically growing. Apparently, according people in the area, there are cranes running every day, and they're apparently going to renovate their stadium. Look, I'm probably the biggest Nevada Wolfpack supporter on this board, went to the university (Didn't graduate form there due to many reasons, class offerings was one though), and live about 50 miles from Reno, but the idea that UNR could be accepted into the Pac 12/4/6 is really crazy. Sure, the city is growing, but that's mainly due to lower real estate prices than just across the boarder in California and the fact that work is insanely hard to find in this part of the state. Nevada's economy for the most part depends on two things, the fortunes of their meal ticket to the west, and gambling. California is in debt up to their eyeballs right now, and Nevada is paying because of it. EVERYTHING in the state is underfunded, including the school systems. Nevada has by far one of the worst educational systems in the entire country in terms of funding. Both UNR and UNLV have had major financial cutbacks in the past few years that have all but crippled their educational offerings. And when it comes to gambling, just look at the city of Vegas. You'd be hard pressed to find any other area of the country that was hit worse by the poor economy than Vegas. It's gotten so bad in Vegas that people are leaving at a faster rate than coming into town now. I for one would be giddy as a schoolgirl to see the Wolfpack find a way to join the PAC #, but there is simply no way that either of the Nevada Universities have the resources to do so any time soon.

If TAMU bails on the big 12 for the SEC, where does that leave some of the other schools? Texas I would assume would go independent, and with their resources including their own network, they could do that very easily. But where does that leave Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent, Texas Tech?

They were both invited to the WAC already. They both declined.

Honestly, I'm not a fan. I know they represent the 4 Super Bowls the Packers have won, but something about those four diamonds on the corners of the ring just throws it off.

I want to say that at least a handful of those schools have already turned the WAC down.

I feel like Sheri Lewis every time I read this thread

Aaaaaand this argument goes round and round..... Everybody with me now!

Montana would be a GREAT addition to the WAC, as would a school like North Dakota State to give them a natural travel partner.

Ok, so here's my biggest thing when it comes to fake jerseys. Take a look at each of these examples. Buster Posey Jersey Joe Thornton Jersey Josh Freeman Jersey Emmit Smith Florida Jersey (Probably not historically accurate) Sure, they're not perfect, but they're TWENTY FIVE BUCKS. Unless the pictures are completely deceptive, those are the nicest $25 dollar jerseys I've ever seen. If counterfeiters overseas can sell a jersey that is fully stitched with multiple layers of tackle twill on the logos and numbers for that cheap of a price and still make a profit, then why can't the real companies at least make their prices reasonable? There is no earthly reason why anyone should spend $300 dollars on a shirt that cost almost nothing to make. And sure, that website is based overseas and charges a $20 flat rate for shipping. But even so, two jerseys plus shipping is STILL cheaper than it would be to buy one :censored:ty replica at the mall. I get the argument of intellectual property theft, but when there is such a stranglehold on that property that prices are gouged as bad as they are, and there is an alternative out there that is nearly as good for a fraction of the price, can you really blame people for taking the cheaper alternative? IMO, this is a problem that the major sports leagues caused themselves by monopolizing the industry. I just hope that the solution to these types of problems come when the leagues decide to offer the highest quality products at reasonable prices, rather than continuously spend money to shut these operations down. If they were to do that, then there would be no reason why anyone would have (want) to look for an alternative.

But this isn't true at all. It's super easy to spot these fakes. The numbers and letters really are that bad. You can spot them a mile away, especially for teams that have anything more than standard block fonts. Sure maybe if my grandma were to buy me a jersey that'd be a problem, but the only time I buy fakes is when it's hard for me, someone who is obsessed with this stuff and roams these boards daily, to even tell the difference. I have an Alstott fake where the numbers are so damn close to the authentic I have that side by side it's hard to tell which one is real. The logos are a bit off and that's the dead giveaway, but it cost me like 10% of what the real one did. I also have two fakes that are the Manning brother's Super Bowl jerseys. Those were even harder to spot (only the cut, which is BARELY off is wrong), and are of awesome quality. The guy who sold it them me made them out to be the real deal. I don't think he was purposely trying to rip me off, the price was too low for that to be the case. I just think that unlike us, he was closer to the general public when it came to spotting jersey fakes. But still, if you had the choice to drop three bills on an authentic jersey and miss your team's game because it's blacked out, or 30 bucks on something close, and actually have money to go to one of the team's games, wouldn't you normally choose the second option? Hell, in that case, the NFL has ZERO room to bitch!

I have a pretty big jersey collection, and two or three of them are counterfeit. No matter if it's supporting the wrong cause, or it's criminal, or whatever you want to call it, spending $30 on a jersey that is so close to an authentic that most won't even notice (and those who do have to look pretty close) is a much smarter investment than spending nearly $80 on a cheap screen printed shirt that'll fall apart in the wash in less than a year. You can knock counterfeit jerseys all you want, I still find it to be less criminal than the prices they charge for the real ones.

Maybe an Eastern/Western: Eastern: Colorado Utah AZ State Arizona Wash St Wash Western: Oregon Oregon St Stanford Cal USC UCLA I'm pretty sure USC and UCLA are the furthest east of the old Pac 8 Schools. Or at least the easternmost "travel pair" It also seems kind of funny to put Washington in the east and UCLA and USC in the west, when Seattle is actually further west than Los Angeles.

So because Berkeley and Colorado embrace counterculture lifestyles they're just a bunch of liberal nut cases? You do realize that, despite their acceptance of other lifestyles, they're still two of the top schools in the country, right?

I would think that upon hearing the news that Boise is leaving for the MWC, that the University of Nevada, Reno was pretty darn happy to get them out. They're a very strong basketball school and have won the WAC several times, they've won the WAC in football fairly recently and if not for Boise St would have a few more WAC titles, and aren't really all that bad in baseball. At this point I'd put them at the top of that conference with Fresno State just a smidge behind (Although their recent baseball success could very easily put them in the top spot).

I don't care if the names have historic value, having a conference with 12 teams called the big ten and one with 10 teams called the big 12 is easily the most stupid thing that could possibly happen in college football, and college football is the KING of stupidity. Just change the names of the conferences or this is gonna make about as much sense as the BCS.

Let the madness begin...

So I wonder if Boise State moving from the WAC to the Mountain West( ) could put the hold on bigger conferences snagging up MWC schools such as BYU and TCU. This can only help the MWC in their bid to become a BCS conference, and I can't see Boise State moving if there was a good possibility that the stronger schools in their conference could bounce just a few weeks/months after they joined. Link

This plan still has many of the same problems as the one posted before it. Fresno State, Nevada, San Diego State, and I'm sure a handfull of others don't meet the academic requirements necessary to be in whichever conference.

Yeah, most of that just wont work, Mac. Boise State in the ACC is absolutely insane in terms of travel. That and Nevada, Fresno State, Utah State, and San jose State don't have the population density or the academics required to join the Pac 10. In fact, about half of the teams in EVERY conference you listed don't even meet a small portion of the conference criteria necessary to join.

So if Missouri, Nebraska, AND Texas all move out of the Big XII I'm assuming the days of that conference being a major are over. So where does Oklahoma end up? Do they try to pick up the pieces and add smaller schools to the Big XII, making Oklahoma the kings of the conference form here on out? Do they bail out along with everyone else? Where would they go at this point? Maybe the Pac 10? This could get really hectic really quickly. I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Marlins did that in 03. I remember thinking that was the only way the Cubs and Giants were ever going to get their logos on another World Series ring.

So my buddy is trying to do a project using the Anaheim Ducks main font (Not the Anaheim part, the Ducks part). Anyone have any idea what the font is called?

Not quite a legend, although he'll always be remembered here for his face plant slide into the world series. And it crushed many people when he left. Thank you, btw.

I actually wore my Sanders Ravens jersey the other day. It cost me $15 Wow, 15 bucks?? ....Still too much. I also have an Eddie George Cowboys jersey and a Tim Brown Bucs jersey Oh, I know you've got a slew to random jerseys -- I meant 15 is a bit much to be layin down on a washed-up Deion on the Ravens jersey. Considering I've worn it twice, your probably right.

I actually wore my Sanders Ravens jersey the other day. It cost me $15 Wow, 15 bucks?? ....Still too much. I also have an Eddie George Cowboys jersey and a Tim Brown Bucs jersey