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Overabundance of logos? Maybe. But... I love all of this.

I really like the logos - the font is great and there's plenty of minor league whimsy without being over the top. The subtle nod to Dale is nice as well. I'm not sold on Cannon Ballers as a name. I'm fully aware of Cannon Mills' history in Kannapolis, but I think the jump from Cannon Mills to human cannonballs is... Evel Knievel over the Snake River canyon. That said, it beats the pants off the Intimidators name and logo set.

This is something only time will tell. Things tend to tire quickly.

"Trash Pandas" is literally named after a meme. It's a meme that got an extra boost thanks to Guardians of the Galaxy, but it's still a meme. Memes are almost universally short-term phenomena. That's kind of the point. It'll last 10 years, max. How long would have teams called the LOLcats or Dancing Babies or All Your Base Are Belong To Uses lasted? Not long. This isn't too different. That said, they did a great job with the logos.

South Carolina... is relaxed... about alcohol laws? It's been within the decade that alcohol sales were legal in restaurants on Sunday, at least in the county I lived in. I still don't think it's possible anywhere in the state to buy hard liquor (and only available at liquor stores) on Sunday, and it varies county-to-county and/or city-to-city whether beer and wine are available on Sunday. Unless you work in Charleston (or possibly Columbia) where things are a little more relaxed, I wholeheartedly disagree.

I attended the Gold Cup games in Charlotte yesterday (Canada-Cuba and Martinique-Mexico) and noticed that Martinique was introduced with a new flag - some graphics used this new flag, while some used the blue one with four snakes. I remembered this today and checked it out - apparently a new flag was introduced last month: New: Old: A new flag and hymn* to be used for "sports, cultural, and international events" according to this link. This was apparently done, in part, due to the association of the "snake flag" with the Atlantic slave trade and colonialism. FWIW, I think the "snake flag" looks better but understand the reasoning behind the change. *Interestingly, "La Marseillaise" was still played during the anthems.

I remember there being a similar rule back in the '90s (or even the late '80s) that prohibited D2/D3 schools from playing D1 in football or men's basketball. The big result (or at least one of them) was Georgetown football moving to D1. No idea why they set a new grandfather clause in 2011.

I'm pretty sure that's only for large revenue sports (namely, men's basketball and football). I think you can "play up" in one men's/women's sport each - like Dallas Baptist in baseball, provided you sponsored that sport at a D1 level prior to 2011. However, they're getting more uncommon outside of fringe sports (fencing, bowling, rifle, etc.) - a lot of programs that formerly sponsored a D1 program in one sport (e.g., Francis Marion University women's soccer) have dropped down to D2 in recent years.

Bellarmine (Louisville, KY; formerly D2 GLVC) moving to D1 (Atlantic Sun) in 2020. Private, Catholic school with just over 2,500 undergrads. Have at it, I guess?

Also, they're public. We really, really don't need public schools with enrollments of under 2,000 attempting Division I athletics.

Yeah, there was a lawsuit in the late '80s-early '90s regarding the use of the name "Hornets." IIRC, George Shinn sued the baseball team for the exclusive rights to "Hornets," despite the baseball team using the name nearly a decade before the Charlotte Hornets took the floor. He lost. I'm not sure if the Greensboro College Hornets were part of that lawsuit at all. Here's an article (scroll to the bottom) that seems to suggest they weren't.

Nice job! Now it's odd that, assuming moving from Hornets had something to do with the minor league team, both teams changed their names within a 2 year period. The Greensboro Hornets became the Greensboro Bats after the 1993 season, not 2003 as I said in my original post.

I somehow missed this. I could throw a baseball from my front porch and have it land on GC's campus. The wordmark looks great. As others have said, I think the lions themselves are missing something. I think that "something" may be eyeballs - there's an emptiness to them. The whiskers and nose look a little "off" too. It's an upgrade from what they had, though. Semi-related: I can't seem to find when GC changed their nickname from the "Hornets" to the "Pride." It was sometime in the 1990s, probably due to confusion with the Single-A Greensboro Hornets of the South Atlantic League, who went by that name from 1979-1993. I even work with the guy who was in sports information there in the late '90s and he doesn't know. It seems like such an easy, recent thing to find out - but with D3 statistics and record keeping being what they are, I haven't been able to.

At least in 2016, Asheville was #3 in the United States in breweries per capita. This article from late 2017, however, lists "total microbreweries" at 25, for a rate of 28.1 breweries per 100,000 residents, which would put Asheville at #1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/11/01/which-u-s-cities-have-the-most-microbreweries-per-capita-infographic/#1cdd044de19b Asheville was chosen as the East Coast brew hub for the 3rd and 4th-largest craft breweries by volume (Sierra Nevada and New Belgium). None of Asheville's own crack the top 50 craft breweries by volume, but Wicked Weed, Highland, Hi-Wire, and Green Man are all well-known. I'm probably forgetting some - I enjoy craft beer, but I'm not an aficionado. Point is, Asheville is one of the few cities that can legitimately lay claim to a "Beer City" uniform.

The logo on the grey t-shirt, without the wordmark, is much better. I think I actually prefer the monochrome version of the logo... but then you're getting close to what new conference rival Hampton did with their logo - and they're the Pirates and have similar colors. As others pointed out, the "Charleston Southern University" text is unreadable at low resolution and/or distance. So much in logo design is trending toward the exact opposite direction (high visibility at small size, "flat design," yada yada) that makes this look 10+ years old already. And it's not just that it looks 10+ years old, it looks average for 10+ years old. Charleston Southern operates on the fringes of D1, in a low-major conference, with less than 4,000 students, a small athletic budget, and small facilities (basketball gym seats 881, 2nd smallest in D1). Even in the Charleston area, CSU is overshadowed by CofC and the Citadel (not to even mention USC, Clemson, and other major teams). I'm not bashing Charleston Southern - I value them as a founding member of the Big South (my "home" conference) and have been to the campus many times, that small gym can get absolutely rocking and is a great place to watch a game. I'm glad they're keeping the CSU/sword logo, hopefully as the primary, because at least you can make an educated guess as to whom the logo belongs. The fact that there are so many CSUs (off the top of my head: Colorado State, Cleveland State, Chicago State, various iterations of Cal State _______) doesn't help, but at least the swords and colors make it more identifiable. The new one is a generic-looking buccaneer, an unidentifiable jumble of text, and BUCCANEERS. It could belong to anybody. When you're playing Nth fiddle to larger programs in your state/region, I think it would be beneficial to have the school's name much larger. Having a long name such as "CHARLESTON SOUTHERN" is a hindrance in this situation when compared to other conference teams in similar situations (Winthrop, Radford, Longwood, Campbell, etc.), but having it so tiny is certainly not helping things.

Charleston Southern University (Big South Conference) unveiled a new logo today. New: Old: The new wordmark is a serious improvement. I don't think the wordmark in the above graphic was "official," and I'm not even sure they actually had one. The pirate logo itself... yuck. Already looks 10+ years old, like it's from a 2006 Madden Create-a-Team. What the heck is up with his ear? Why does the white outline randomly dip below the wordmark? The old "block CSU and swords" logo wasn't great (always reminded me of a logo for a private high school), but it was better than this mess.

Fantastic! Things like this are why I love minor league baseball.

The High Point Rockers, expansion team in the Atlantic League, have unveiled their uniforms: https://www.highpointrockers.com/uniforms

Enormous upgrade, despite the logo itself (minus the text) looking more like a logo for an individual school than an entire conference. I had quite a lot of interaction with Conference Carolinas members (taught at one, announced at another DII school that frequently played teams from CC) and always detested that logo. I can't believe that old pile of garbage lasted 12 years - I remember seeing it here when it was unveiled (2007!) after the conference changed its name from the Carolinas-Virginia Athletic Conference (CVAC).

Is "Suburban Chicago" a thing (sorry) used specifically to refer to places outside of the city limits? If Chicago annexed Cicero or Rosemont or Des Plaines, would those places cease to be Surburban Chicago?

Southern California Angels, maybe? The Padres and Dodgers might have an issue with that, but did those teams (plus the A's and Giants) get up in arms about "California Angels?"

What's the issue? Granted, I'm not intimately familiar with Chicago suburbs, but Google Maps shows me a planned streets, mostly single-family residential (small-ish lot sizes, but yards exist), 2 golf courses, a few commercial strips, 12 miles from the CBD, abutted by an Interstate... looks like a streetcar suburb to me. What's not suburban about it?

I missed this discussion a few months ago, but BBTV is right. Suburban, exurban, rural... etc. are more useful when describing the character of an area or neighborhood, not whether or not they're inside the city limits. City limit boundaries aren't useful for much more than determining who and who doesn't pay tax dollars to where. It's open to interpretation whether city boundaries are overbounded (Jacksonville, Oklahoma City come to mind) or underbounded (most cities have "less desirable" neighborhoods that "should" be part of the city limits, but aren't. Yay racism!). But yeah, just because an area is technically within the city limits doesn't mean it can't be suburban.

That's also an interesting facemask being worn by Marquez Pope (#23). I don't think I recall ever seeing that QB-style mask with the "Deion bar" by the eyes.

It would, but having the town and the team named after the same thing would be overkill. Plus, the mill closed 20ish years ago.