wbachmann2

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  1. I don't see it taking off anytime soon, but it would be nice to see a few matches on TV every now and again. I miss the good old days of ESPN when you could see a Rugby match or Aussie Rules game when they didn't have anything big in American Sports to show. As an aside, did anyone watch the Travel Channel Show Dhani Tackles the Globe this week? He (Dhani Jones) played Rugby for Blackheath in England. Kind of interesting to compare and contrast American Football and Rugby.
  2. This may be nitpicking, but I don't think those teams wear pin stripes. Those are thick (wide) vertical stripes. Pin stripes are what the New York Yankees wear. Very thin vertical stripes. Vertical stripes, such as the ones you mention, are worn by a few national sides and countless clubs as well. Pin stripes on the the other hand, are almost unheard of on a national team's kit. That's why I like the idea so much. It sets the kit apart and makes it instantly recognizable. ...so, not arguing with you. Just clarifying...I think. I can think of at least 2 recent international soccer kits with pinstripes. Scotland had a pinstripe strip made by Fila a few years ago, and didn't Spain have a pinstripe outfit not so long ago as well. In the 80s adidas had a template that was used by quite a few international teams that had pinstripes. (Off the top of my head Northern Ireland, Russia, France, West Germany all had at least either a home or away shirt that incorporated pinstripes in the 1982 World Cup) Spain was the only one I could think of. In each of these cases, it was more of a one off. Not an indelible part of the kit, like Holland wearing all orange, or Argentina's sky blue and white stripes. Any team could incorporate pin stripes into their kit, but none (that I know of) are known for wearing them.
  3. Sure does. If those are the elements they want, I would have gone with something like this. Kinda rough, but you get the idea. Personally, I wouldn't go quite so Queens-heavy, especially since they don't play in Queens and don't claim to represent Queens more than any other borough. But I like the crown. Not that you asked for C&C, but that's a really good start. Just a thought, if you plan to work any further with it, have you considered losing the banner? It might look better underneath the crest, like Everton/Middlesborough, et al. You could make the flowers the focal point by switching their position with the soccer ball. Again, you didn't ask for it, but I hope you don't mind a few thoughts.
  4. This may be nitpicking, but I don't think those teams wear pin stripes. Those are thick (wide) vertical stripes. Pin stripes are what the New York Yankees wear. Very thin vertical stripes. Vertical stripes, such as the ones you mention, are worn by a few national sides and countless clubs as well. Pin stripes on the the other hand, are almost unheard of on a national team's kit. That's why I like the idea so much. It sets the kit apart and makes it instantly recognizable. ...so, not arguing with you. Just clarifying...I think.
  5. I hadn't heard about this. Do you, by any chance, have a source? I'd like to read up about it. ...that crest is a mess. EDIT: Nevermind about the source. Google's a magical thing: Link
  6. I prefer the original collar to the more "modern" one. Overall, I liked you first attempt better.
  7. A lot of people I know didn't care for the vertical pinstriped blue kit that was unveiled a while back. So I'm not sure how well the primary will be received, but I like it a lot. I can't think of another national side that routinely uses pinstripes on their shirt, and being unique is one of the characteristics I look for in a great kit design. The clash kit is very classy as well. I like your take on the DTOM crest, but for some reason, I don't like the "wings" created by the ends of the wordmark ribbon. I don't have a specific suggestion as to what would make that any better, but I think it would look better as a self-contained shield. Excellent concept.
  8. FWIW I like how this looks, but I doubt a recolor will get you too many comments on these boards.
  9. I was spared the torture of watching the ManU vs. Liverpool match last week, but once I saw the score I said, "I'd hate to be Fulham, because ManU are going to crush them." Little did I know that 4-1 to Liverpool was just foreshadowing the upcoming United collapse. ...I can't watch. ::shields eyes::
  10. Harlequins Rugby League:
  11. Valid points, but this is the "General Design" section, and packaging design falls under that category, at least in my book. It isn't just a packaging redesign either, it's an identity change with a new logo and image. ffffound is a great site, and I visit it semi-regularly also, but I don't think the fact that there is another website out there should limit what gets posted here. Just my 2 cents... i dont have any beef with this being a packaging design thread in a general design? neither is my issue that this is an identity change. my point is that this barely qualifies as design and certainly doesnt come close to good design. it seems really obscure to debate the finer points of two completely crap bits of packaging/ design? tio be honest my post is just an observation, however i would like to point people in the general direction of the likes of ffffound as the identities they feature are far more original and interesting than the likes of gatorade etc. [sarcasm] You know what? I think the new packaging belongs in a museum it's so good. In fact, I've never seen better packaging ever! And my opinion is more valid than yours because I say so. [/sarcasm] If you think that the packaging is crap, you are welcome to say so. But don't act as though we should all accept it as fact because you decreed it. For the record, I like conversation like this. These are the kinds of products we see in our homes in a daily basis, but rarely do we give much consideration to the design of their packaging.
  12. Unnecessary change to an iconic crest. Apart from the desire to have more realistic Tudor Roses, I don't really see what the impetus was for the change. Is this new badge really going to "enhance its on-shirt presence"? I guess I won't pass judgment until I see the kit in its entirety but this seems, as Gothamite said, to be change for the sake of change. EDIT: I just saw this in the kit thread I'm trying to imagine the lighter blue on the crest paired with navy blue shorts...
  13. Do a search for Buffalo Bills concepts. Go ahead, I'll wait.... Done? Now that you have finished the 50th thread in which a person tried to redo the Bills, you should realize how wrong you are to be angry about this. You don't own the idea of Olympic Football, and he is perfectly justified in creating his own thread. Would you have been happier if he hijacked your thread with his concepts?
  14. You hit it right on the head about the Challenger name. I grew up and still live in Central Florida and I promise you that people will not go for that name at all. People in my age group remember watching that launch from our classroom windows. You don't want a team named after a tragedy. Despite this, you have a good start here. Take some of the C&C and stick with it.