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  1. Oh boy... Looks like the Big 12 is going to be dead in the water now. Who would of thought that Texas A&M would be the one that gives it the potential death knell? Big 12 is not dead unless the Oklahoma schools bolt (they are likely a package deal where if they leave they have to leave together). The Big 12 can probably still exist as the Texas, Oklahoma + 8 other conference. Mainly because the 8 others don't have anywhere to go and deal with Texas having the power. So if A&M leaves they'll operate at 9 or call up Houston fill a spot and be a doormat for Texas.
  2. Well it looks like this is happening. TAMU has moved up their board of regents meeting to discuss conference affiliation and ESPN is reporting to expect a press conference shortly afterwards. Also the quotes from the Big 12 people sounds like A&M is leaving.
  3. Well they wouldn't be expanding just to reach markets, it is just one factor. In the case of Virginia Tech it is a program that has gotten to to the BCS Bowl games the last few years and and has a strong rabid traveling fan base.
  4. Adding Virginia Tech as a 14 or 16th team would allow the SEC to encroach on the DC market. Similar with Missouri for St. Louis and Kansas City. Them adding FSU would be to try to cut into the Gators recruiting. But yea the Big XII is doomed. And some other conference (Big East or ACC) may be left to Mountain West status.
  5. Sporting News is reporting that if TAMU goes VT or Missouri are the favorites if Oklahoma doesn't jump with A&M. As for the FSU rumors, I would imagine there are a few ACC schools that would jump ship at this point. They signed their new TV deal a year too soon before Comcast/NBC basically entered the picture. Afterwards the Pac-12 got a much bigger contract than them and even the Big East could trump them in TV dollars. I don't see the ACC having the leadership to be proactive in this mess to avoid. If Va Tech or FSU jump ship I hope the Maryland Big 10 rumors that were around last year were true and the B1G looks a MD as a reaction move.
  6. What are the divisions? Or did you mean conferences? And if you did, I think 2 of the conferences take up more than 1 timezone. The Division and Conference label is basically interchangeable based on what you want to call it. So it is either 4 conferences no divisions, or 4 divisions and no conferences. What I meant by timezones was no division/conference has to travel more than 1 timezone away for for division conference play. No the case with the current setup.
  7. Well since it looks like the NHL is going to need to realign I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to share with you guys my idea. Some of which I've posted here before. First thing is to recognize that outside of needing to move Atlanta/Winnipeg to the West and a team needing move east is that the NHL has other problems in regards to alignment. Mainly there aren't enough teams in the Mountain and Pacific time zones to sustain a big Western conference because of travel and time zones. That means there a large chunk of games for each team at bad televised teams. Particularly for Eastern Time Zone teams like Detroit and Columbus where they have a significant amount of times at 10pm local time. Another issue is every team does not visit every building, which is a big deal for some. I think the better solution is to break the conference down further. Instead of having 2 large conferences, have 4 smaller ones. Conference playoffs first two rounds of the playoffs and then you reseed the final 4 teams and have a league wide Semi-final and Final. It is basically the 82-93 playoff format except the divisions become the conferences and they because of expansion are larger so you won't have the same amount of repeats every single year. The schedule would work like this: -Play every team outside your conference twice (home and away). -For the 7 team conferences you play each time 6 times (3 home and 3 away). -For the 8 team conferences you play 3 teams 6 times (3 home and 3 away) and the other 4 teams 5 times (3 home and 2 away or vice versa, alternating every year). Total: 82 Games Top four teams make the playoffs from each conference. Now for the Conferences: Western Conference: Vancouver Canucks Edmonton Oilers Calgary Flames Colorado Avalance San Jose Sharks Los Angeles Kings Anaheim Ducks Phoenix Coyotes Central Conference: Dallas Stars St. Louis Blues Minnesota Wild Winnipeg Jets Chicago Blackhawks Detroit Red Wings Nashville Predators Northeast Conference: Boston Bruins Montreal Canadiens Ottawa Senators Toronto Maple Leafs Buffalo Sabres Pittsburgh Penguins Columbus Blue Jackets Atlantic Conference: New York Islanders New York Rangers New Jersey Devils Philadelphia Flyers Washington Capitals Carolina Hurricanes Tampa Bay Lightning Florida Panthers No division takes up more than 1 timezone. Preserves for the most part existing rivalries and strengthens them with the playoff format.
  8. So when UNC gets the death penalty in Football does the ACC blow up like the old SWC did?
  9. The Big 12 isn't adding anyone. They are giving up the championship game (unless they get a waiver, which I doubt they will get) and going with a 10 team league. One of the big losers in this appears to be Jerry Jones and his Jerryworld as the Big 12 championship game games scheduled for there won't be taking place.
  10. Texas has announced already that they are staying in the Big 12, so the SEC is off the table for now. Plus that was something that I don't think Texas would want as the SEC deal with ESPN turns over all the league inventory to them. Texas wants to start their own network, which the Big 12 is allowing them to do that the other conferences wouldn't allow. As for the second point I agree. EDIT: As for the network who stepped up to save the Big 12, it was Fox it seems.
  11. Question, now that the Big 12 survived and the Pac-10 will only go to 12 does the Big Ten stop its expansion at Nebraska or now that Texas is out of the picture does it move on to try to blow up the Big East, expand their tv footprint, and try to force the other big fish Notre Dame in? I think the Big Ten might continue at their original timeline. Two of the goals were to get one of the two big fish and expand their tv footprint. Adding Nebraska while nice from a football program standpoint does not greatly expand the Big Ten network's footprint. One of the big fish may still be out there. Even if they don't get Notre Dame and only go to 14 they can say it was successful because they got a marquee program (Nebraska) and expanded their footprint (two new schools presumably from the east).
  12. I would bet their is a clause that if the SEC adds new members they can reopen the contract with ESPN. However, as Hedley said they are in a position where they don't have to act now. If the SEC expands with won't be to areas that they already have schools it will be to new territory. To add a GT, Clemson, or FSU basically splits the existing pie as those schools don't add new markets. That said orangebloods.com is reporting A&M has the regents votes to go to the SEC, so it looks like the SEC is expanding and will probably also grab a 14th team to keep divisions even. That could mean trying to grab a more northern ACC school (VT, UVA, Maryland, UNC, ect). I think it may be VT mainly because UNC would have to drag NC State (And probably Duke although the SEC might like that) with them. Or they could grab another Big 12 leftover (assuming Texas and Oklahoma go to the pacific), perhaps a Kansas even though that would be an odd geographic fit. Well first off Rutgers almost for sure at this point will be going to the Big Ten. Whenever in the next few months the Big Ten send out their next invites Rutgers will get one. Syracuse will probably also be the 16th team added to the Big Ten and thus probably wouldn't join the ACC. Pitt would be a nice addition for the ACC, West Virginia while has nice athletic programs may end up being a school that gets screwed in all of this because of their market and academics. Basically when all said and done the ACC, even with their new tv deal will probably become what the Big East is now. That is the weakest financially of the major conferences. That leaves it open to the next round of attacks whenever expansion happens again. The SEC will eventually go to 16 teams, even if they don't expand to 16 immediately. Especially if the 16 team conferences get 2 automatic major postseason bids. That basically means at some point the SEC will raid the ACC. If you are Maryland you basically have to decide now which is the eventual better option. Personally speaking I think the Big Ten is and thus accept an invite if they get one. I think culturally Maryland is closer to the Big Ten and the north than the SEC and the south. Penn State would provide for a nice natural rival and so would Syracuse and Rutgers if they join as well. Also if UMD, Cuse and Notre Dame join the conference ends up being one of the better basketball conferences as well. Financially the Big Ten probably has the better growth potential with the network especially if ND is forced to join (and I think they will be forced in). I don't think the ACC will end up going the way of the Big 12 or what may happen to Big East football, but after everything is done the ACC probably won't be a very good conference to be in.
  13. I think the super conferences do take us toward a step to a college football playoff because it takes us closer to the big schools just pulling out of the NCAA and starting their own governing body. At that point there would be no reason to keep the bowls instead of a playoff because a playoff in this new association the money doesn't have to be split with all the small lower division schools. A playoff would create more money than the bowls. Now after saying that for the same reason it also takes us towards a really crappy NCAA basketball tournament as there won't be as Cinderella would be dead.
  14. The Big Ten will not add West Virginia for the reasons you mentioned about wanting new markets in the Big Ten. West Virginia doesn't bring any new big markets into the equation, they aren't going to get the B10 network in very many additional new homes. Plus they aren't like a historic program like Nebraska that can get away with that. On top of that West Virginia isn't strong academically. Remember the people making the final decisions aren't the sports people but the academic presidents. Now that the Pac-10 has sold out their academics for their big move the Big Ten more than any other conference cares the most about a schools academic standing. Now the Big Ten if enough money was out their would sell their academic soul, but in this case they don't as the most attractive candidates from a market point a view (Syracuse, Rutgers, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Missouri, ect.) also fit the Big Ten's academic profile. I ultimately think in order the invitees to the Big Ten will be Rutgers, Notre Dame (those two probably at the same time), Maryland, then either Syracuse or Missouri. -Rutgers gets the next invite to expand the footprint and to try to force ND. While I don't know how many NYC eyeballs Rutgers will attract, it does make NJ a footprint state. That means the Big Ten can charge NJ cable operators more for the Big Ten network. -Notre Dame "gets the next invite", but I think they turn it down at this point in hopes of holding onto academics. I don't think losing Rutgers blows up the Big East (especially with the Big 12 north teams still out there). As such ND rejects here and the Big Ten moves on to try to force. -Maryland gets the next invite. Maryland gives you again footprint. The school provides you access to the Baltimore and DC markets, which combined is good enough to be the 4th largest market in the country. Question here is if those in charge of Maryland want to jump off the titanic or not. -Next non-ND invite would go to either Missouri or Syracuse. It will depend on if the Big Ten feels they need to force ND more or not. Also if they feel they need to go more into NY state to get the NYC market. If so on both it will be Syracuse. If not maybe Missouri although I think they ran their mouths out of a Big Ten invite. -Notre Dame probably relents for 16.
  15. Money. It isn't about getting a playoff (although that might result), it is about conferences expanding their tv footprints. Specifically the Big Ten that has its own channel and the Pac-10 that wants to start its own channel. Right now as a Maryland fan I'm hoping Texas does indeed go to the Pac-10 and the Big 10 expands beyond 14 teams. In that case in looks like Maryland will probably be one of the new Big 10 teams. As it seems the madhouse scenario is going down you do not want to be stuck in what will end up becoming the ACC/Big East leftover conference. That would be a terrible conference. The Big Ten would be a good fit. I just don't want the Terps to end up being left behind.
  16. 1-Lew Perkins will resign from Kansas after 2011 academic year 2-Texas A&M Vice President/Marketing & Communications, Jason Cook, made teh following statement today. ?Officials from Texas A&M University and the University of Texas met in Austin today to discuss several topics of mutual interest to both institutions regarding recent developments affecting the Big 12 Conference. No decisions were made or agreements reached as a result of these discussions.? 3-It is clear to me that Chip Brown is be leaked information by the University of Texas in terms of what they want us to know. His latest tweet said, "Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech appear to be in lock step to the Pac-10 but will wait til next week to announce anything." Notice who is missing? TAMU. Chip Brown followed that up by saying Texas A&M are talking with the SEC. It looks like they will follow the rest of the Big 12 south out west or go east. It doesn't look like that Big Ten rumor today was true.
  17. Well if only Nebraska left I guess the Big 12 could technically stay alive (although in a weakened state). They could add a TCU and move Oklahoma to the north and set up the scheduling like the ACC where you have one team int he other division you play every year. That way you still have a a marquee team in each division for the Championship game. The problem is it appears the Pac-10 is expanding no matter what (either the Big 6 team raid or to 12 teams). Colorado looks like they will get an invite even if the Pac-10 expands to 12. That means you lose another north team. Add Missouri possibly leaving too and that is 2 teams leaving. You can't replace that with what is left to take.
  18. Probably not. I'm guess some model will come up for a 7-8 game conference schedule. A tougher conference schedule might mean teams are more likely to schedule the fodder for easy wins.
  19. The Pac-16 is rumored to be basically run as sort of MLB model for Football where the two divisions play within themselves for Football with something like 1 inter division game. Basically the traditional Pac-8 is one division and the Big 12 teams plus the 'Zona teams.
  20. There is a rumor on the one of the Nebraska boards that it may be Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Maryland that will get Big Ten Invites. Now granted the rumor is apparently a radio report and those have a tendency to be fakes. Missouri might get left in the cold in the pursuit of Notre Dame. Apparently the reasoning for Syracuse and Rutgers is to get the New York market with them combined and to blow up the Big East forcing Notre Dame to move to the Big Ten. Nebraska is the big football program and Maryland is to be able to move into both the Baltimore and DC markets and to move the conference south (as well as trigger the ACC to probably steal an Big East team again forcing ND). The result is Missouri could be left cold with most notably Kansas.
  21. It depends on if the Super Conference scenario happens or not. If say just Notre Dame joins the Big ten the Big East will probably stand pat. However, if the Big Ten goes to 16 and the SEC responds by raiding the southern part of the ACC, I wouldn't be surprised if the Big East and ACC end up basically merging for another super conference. Of course off all of that happens the government probably gets involved on antitrust basis and we end up back with a bunch of small 8 team conferences.
  22. I worked at MSG for 4 years... The Theater is within the arena. The basketball court/ hockey ice is on the fifth floor, and then the seats expand up from that all the way to the top floor which is the sky boxes. The Theater is beneath all that, I believe the stage level is on the first floor and the top row of seats is on the 2nd floor. When you say "floor", you mean seating tier, right? Not like the arena is on it's own floor, like it's an office building and it has stuff above and below it, right? So from what it sounds like, the theater seems to be nestled in behind the first and second levels of seats, where you would normally expect something like a locker room to be? Something like * * * * * <------200 level seats * * <----- 100 level seats theater * theater * theater * court / ice theater *********************************** No, he means like an office building. The floor/ice is not at ground level. MSG is 10 stories tall, the floor is on the 5th floor and the seating is on floors 5-10. I've never been to the theatre portion but from the way he describes it I think the theater is below the arena. Now that I re-read his post, it makes more sense now. Still, it certainly didn't look like a 10-story building. I was staring at it as we walked up to it, and it didn't appear to be much taller than the Wachovia Center or any other arena. Of course, it may have been an illusion, since there's a big tower right next to it. To get to the theater, we had to go up at least one escalator. Can't remember if more than one. We then walked through the lobby where the bars are to get to the seating, and walked down to our seats. It would make sense that we entered on the second floor, and walked down near the first where the stage is. It seemed so small though... like it couldn't have taken up the entire floor (unless there's a huge area behind the stage.) MSG has diagrams on its website. As you can see here it takes up about a quarter to a half of what would be the arena floor. http://www.thegarden.com/media/content/seating/theatre-overview-map.pdf Here is the general overview of MSG diagram. As you can see the Theater is floors 2-3, and the arena is floors 5+. I think floor 1 is the lobby. I don't rally know the only part of MSG I've been in was Penn Station. http://www.thegarden.com/media/content/seating/msg-overview-map.pdf Has for its height it is probably a little of both. The bigger buildings around probably do create an optical illusion but Wachovia Center might not be that far behind in size. Remember MSG was built in the late 60's about the same time as the Spectrum in Philly. Layouts were different where it goes out more instead of stacked like arenas today. Thus the arena portion isn't as tall. As a comparison look at the height of the Spectrum compared to the Wachovia Center.
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