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25 minutes ago, pitt6pack said:
Awesome! I haven't seen much of USFL fields, so I'm going to be really interested in this thread.
I see the typical extra point line is at the 3 yard line, so I'm guessing the USFL took extra points / two point conversions from the 3 and not the 2? I never knew that.
Michigan though did have some of my favorite logos from the USFL. Not all the teams went this far painting the field. One of the best things about the AAF is that they put a lot of effort into each teams logos and really good field designs where possible (Salt Lake of course can't paint over a sown in field).
Yep they used the college rule for extra points and fieldgoals. Several teams did a lot of field work (Michigan, Memphis, Tampa Bay, LA Express) Some did very little (Philly, Oakland, and Chicago used the existing field template with minor tweeks like replacing the Eagles logos with USFL in the endzone and the stars logo helment in the center of the field). Some added new elements. Arizona was the first pro tenant in Sun Devil Stadium, Washington put no logos down at RFK, and in 84 Houston did not even put the turf coverings on the Astrodome dirt cutouts.
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Philadelphia Stars: Veterans Stadium 1983 and 1984
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16 minutes ago, JG36 said:
The Fileds? The Feilds? How about the Fields...
I caught the spelling
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As an offshoot the the NFL Fields and NFL Super Bowl Fields. I present! THE FIELDS OF THE USFL
First off the Michigan Panthers 1983 season
And The Michigan Panthers 1984
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I am creating a new thread "The Fields of the USFL" I will post my USFL fields there
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1 minute ago, pitt6pack said:
Great! I'm really intrigued to see the USFL fields. I haven't even looked into them much at all, so I'm looking forward to those.
I really liked most of them.Michigan (Pontiac Silverdome), Tampa Bay, and Memphis went all out on the field designs. Houston was mostly the field and did not put down the turf for the baseball cutouts. Philly, Oakland, Washington and Chicago where the regular fields (Though Philly replaced the Eagles logos with USFL and Stars logo)
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1 minute ago, pitt6pack said:
Interesting seeing the team logo box in the middle of the field. It almost seems like that makes a team logo a field requirement, but the Jets/Giants use the NFL logo, and the Browns went without a logo, and the Raiders go without a logo during baseball season. Interesting that the digram leaves out the width of the hashes and numbers. I remember seeing that in the rule book you sent me in the past.
But the most interesting thing that I see here, is the width of the field. 150 feet. That looks like a typo, because football fields are 160 feet (53 1/3 yards). I don't believe that would have changed without hearing about it, because taking 10 feet, or 3 1/3 yards, off the field seems like a rule we would have heard about.
It is. I am working on one that fits our field profile. The NFL rule book was badly messed up.
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On 2/28/2019 at 8:05 AM, pitt6pack said:
@SFCOM1 these fields are great! I'll put them up on the GFD soon, but we are in the middle of moving to a different web server at the moment.
Interesting to see how the placement and size of numbers has changed over time, and has become more standard. Same with the usage of hashmarks at the center of the field, and then later on the sidelines. Some fields, like Super Bowl I, even had the hash marks on the sidelines them selves within the think white strip, while others had the hashmarks on the outside of a thinner sideline.
No problem, Let me know when the new server is up. I have a few more updates I am finishing on, like fields from the old Atlanta Fulton County Stadium. And I have started on the old USFL fields. Michigan, Oakland, Philly, and Houston are done. Working on Arizona (Wranglers and Outlaws), Chicago, Tampa Bay, Washington, and Boston/New England.
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Fresh off the NFL rule book. The 2018 Field Diagram
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NFL fields started to become more standardized after the NFL/AFL merger. Before then only the yard lines goal lines and inbound lines where standard.
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Detroit Lions NFL 75th Anniversary Season 1994
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Dallas Cowboys 25th Anniversary Season 1984
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!953 NFL Championship Game December 27th, 1953
Detroit Lions 17 Cleveland Browns 16
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1957 NFL Championship December 29,, 1957
Detroit Lions 59, Cleveland Browns 14
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Detroit Lions 1972 (after baseball season)
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Dallas Cowboys NFL 75th Anniversary Season 1974
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The Final Game at Tiger Stadium for the Detroit Lions Thanksgiving Day November 28th, 1974. Denver Broncos 31, Detroit Lions 27
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On the sideline you would be in behind the yellow marks (Giving the space for the chains and field personnel to work between the end of the 2 yard white border and the broken white lines). And behind the yellow marks in the end zones. Hence you don't see too many camera men (and women) getting creamed anymore. But you do get train wrecks with the sideline steady-cams and the omni-directional microphones. (Those are still really interesting to watch.)
Here is an overhead picture during pregame for SB LIII for reference
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Yea, the helmet logo for the Oilers was very small compared to most other fields of the time. It fit just inside of the midfield hashmarks. While most other stadiums had a helmet logo that was well outside the hashmarks.
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9 hours ago, RaginRonic said:
Forgive me here, but there's some things I see on this full field...the yellow 'dotted' line on the outside, the white ones right beside the yellow, and in front of the team boxes, A] a solid yellow line in front, and B] 2 small white lines on the sides.
What are those anyway? o.o
Well according to the NFL Official rules:
<<The Playing Field
Rule 1
The playing field will be rimmed by a solid white border six feet wide along the end lines and sidelines. There will be an additional broken yellow line nine feet farther outside this border along each sideline in the non-bench areas, and such broken line will be continued at an angle from each 30- yard line and pass behind the bench area (all benches a minimum of 30 feet back from the sidelines) at a distance of six feet. In each end zone, this broken yellow line is six feet from the solid white border. These yellow broken lines are to be eight inches wide and two feet long with a space of one foot between them.
In addition, within each bench area, a solid yellow line six feet behind the solid border will delineate a special area for coaches, behind which all players, except one player who is charting the game, must remain. Furthermore, a broken white line four inches wide and four feet long with a space of two-foot intervals will be marked three feet inside the nine-foot restriction line on the sideline, extending to meet the existing yellow broken line six feet behind both end zones and at each television box outside the bench area.>>In simpler terms.These are restriction lines for the players and coaches, (Team and Coaches boxes between the 30 yard lines on each side of the field) sideline personel, and credentialed media. (The white and yellow dashed lines streching out the reminder of each sideline respectiely). Trust the guy who wears the stripes ( and has access to the actual rule book on NFL.com!) LOL
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Looks like they are using a dark stripe between the yard marks and the sidelines.
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17 hours ago, pitt6pack said:
Oh man, that is a nightmare. I was working on my USC profile, and slightly darker PAC-12 logos (as in the logo more transparent, less color. More green) , but spot on everything else!
The Fields of the USFL
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1984 Divisional Playoff June 20, 1984. Philadelphia Stars 28 New Jersey Generals 3 (Played at Franklin Field the former home of the Eagles and home to the Penn Quakers of Division 1 college football, as the Vet was not available due to a Phillies homestand)