Legend

That's awful.

Will the games even be in English?

I'm on my desktop having the issue.

I'm using Chrome as my browser if that changes anything.

Quotes are not showing up with the person who said them.

I haven't tried quoting yet, but just from what I've seen it doesn't have the username and date when it's being quoted. It gets hard to tell who said it, gotta keep scrolling back up.

Too soon?

It is technically a uniform

Hahaha, love it!

I HATE the pinkwashing the NFL does.

Didn't look back to see if it's unpopular or if anyone else mentioned it, but most people around me hate hearing me say it. But it doesn't do a damn thing. Everyone is well aware of breast cancer, and it's just a money grab by the NFL as well as pandering to gain more women fans and I'm over it. A month of ruining NFL uniforms really irks me. Probably the only thing I agree with Paul Lukas on.

I hate stirrups

Yep. Do not get the love for them at all.

I wear my pants high, but my problem is that because my legs are dis-proportionately short for my body, my Nike size S pants are way too long, so when I blouse them up, there's a whooooole lot of rolling that takes place, which basically creates a tourniquet-effect just below my knee.

Well that explains quite a bit.

But I'm with the other poster, I prefered the black and blue Jays unis much more than their current newold look. I'm so sick and tired of the lack of creativity in pro sports. If a team does make a new design, it ends up looking like (Marlins, Lightning, Rays) and other teams just keep going back (Oilers, Blue Jays, Islanders).

The Blue Jays and Isles and some other teams did make minimal changes to their throwback look, but it's still just laziness I feel. I'm not a huge fan of the throwback trend. Bring them back for a game where you are honoring old players or a special event, but not as a full time uni or even full time 3rd.

I think some/most NBA banners say World Champions.

Really? Haha, that's funny to me.

To me, a world champion would be a team or group that beat the best in the world. Like the World Cup in soccer. Not winning a Super Bowl or NBA Title. Just because the NFL and NBA are the most popular sports.

I still get a kick out of the NFL being the only sport to call their respective champions, "world champions."

I guess since the NFL has demolished every other league that tries to be semi-professional at least? Save for the UFL and Arena League.

The CFL must not enjoy the idea of the NFL champs being called world champs, time for some NFL/CFL games!

LOVE that Giants ring.

Really nice looking, it will look great on my finger.

Note the patch location:

wat

What a piece of garbage... Just waiting for Logodude to come on here and defend this retina searing atrocity.

I wouldn't be surpised.

He always fails to awknoledge my posts that make him look foolish. He goes quiet when he can't think of any comebacks, which is most of the time. Now he's been back since, just trolling.

He really is the ultimate troll. It pains me to realize he is serious.

Then the FBI must suck at their job, because they sure don't "show" their caring about Chinese NFL jerseys, considering how many people get away with it.

The FBI understands that there are bigger battles to fight than Chinese NFL jerseys, which is why they don't pay as much attention to them as you'd like.

Remember when you said that?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Federal-authorities-seize-nearly-fake-Super-Bowl-goods-020212

Now remember when "they" did this?

LOL. Andray Blatche hit 2 three-pointers this season. Does that mean he's a great three-point shooter? You can't take isolated incidents and use them to generalize. The amount of counterfeit merchandise that slips through the cracks is FAR greater than the amount of counterfeit merchandise that actually gets people in trouble - that's why it keeps showing up. Again, the FBI realizes that there are bigger battles to fight - Chinese NFL jerseys aint one of them.

But I was posting the gif of him brushing his shoulders off after I made logodude look silly again. It's just like people talking about or to you, and you just brush your shoulders of.

LOL, wow. SOMEONE is taking this internet discussion a little to much to heart. If someone disagrees with you on an issue, that's not them "talking about or to you." But if it makes you feel like a pimp, nigga, go and brush your shoulders off.

I felt super white saying that haha.

Yeah, it came across as super white, too.

Edit: Thanks to icecap and Morgo for the support and understanding of this issue. Glad we are on the same page.

You just KNOW you are losing an argument when you have to actually THANK people for agreeing with you. Jesus Christ.

I agree that buying counterfeits is not a solution because that actually means a financial loss for the team.

I disagree - many counterfeit merchandise wearers would not buy the merchandise at "regular" price. There's no financial loss for the team. You're (wrongly) assuming that everyone who wears counterfeit merchandise would be willing to buy the product at "regular" price - nowhere near true.

However, by buying replicas you lose the money yourself. I bought myself Orlando Magic replica jersey when I was in USA 3 years ago (swingman appeared too expensive for me). After wearing it a couple of times and before washing it even once, the numbers started to peal off already, meaning I cannot really use it anymore.

And of course that kind of story is going to happen now and again, regardless of whether the product is counterfeit or "authentic." Hell, numbers peel off of jerseys that the actual players wear in games, now and then.

You really are not the brightest. I can't believe you even showed your face back in this thread. And when you do, you quote things that have nothing to do with the discussion that I murdered like Kaylee Anthony not long ago.

Cute. You come back to try and stir the pot, did a decent job at that I may add, and provided nothing but more evidence to make yourself look foolish.

Those were 2 examples I posted, there are many more.

I never said I felt like a pimp or anything, nice job taking it out of context, I was explaining the gif. I know reading into something is very hard for you, and taking things out of context is quite easy.

The super white part...felt the need to quote that? You aren't whtie? If so, a little on the bigot side making a comment like that. but then again, you can't be racist against white people so that doesn't matter.

I thanked them for being sane, and not a criminal like you.

Congrats on being an uninformed and paranoid criminal who hates the idea of law enforcement, especially on the Federal level. I'm really jealous of how cool you are.

Tell me, how was jail? Or were you in prison? Was it a federal prison? I bet you have great stories to go along with your delusions of grandeur.

Then the FBI must suck at their job, because they sure don't "show" their caring about Chinese NFL jerseys, considering how many people get away with it.

The FBI understands that there are bigger battles to fight than Chinese NFL jerseys, which is why they don't pay as much attention to them as you'd like.

Remember when you said that?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Federal-authorities-seize-nearly-fake-Super-Bowl-goods-020212

Now remember when "they" did this?

Edit: Thanks to icecap and Morgo for the support and understanding of this issue. Glad we are on the same page.

Not a problem, but what is the gif in relation to? Pardon me for being ignorant

No big deal. I'm not sure if you're asking why he was doing that or why I posted it.

But I was posting the gif of him brushing his shoulders off after I made logodude look silly again. It's just like people talking about or to you, and you just brush your shoulders of. I felt super white saying that haha.

I just thought it would be be funny to go with it, like get off me bro, essentially, but funnier because it's the prez doing it.

Oh, and that Alex Jones/Ventura thing wasn't supposed to be anything personal and what not. I'm just more sensitive to the guys about 9/11 stuff being a New Yorker. I'll leave that out next time, as you said I was doing well enough without haha.

Hmmm, guess they really don't care about fake jerseys.

What's this? Is this the second story in the same day of feds seizing fake jerseys/goods?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/feds-seize-400000-in-counterfeit-nfl-goods-in-new-jersey/

No, they wouldn't bother with counterfeit NFL gear, that's petty.

Logodude, I'd suggest you stay away from this thread. You're done here.

Then the FBI must suck at their job, because they sure don't "show" their caring about Chinese NFL jerseys, considering how many people get away with it.

The FBI understands that there are bigger battles to fight than Chinese NFL jerseys, which is why they don't pay as much attention to them as you'd like.

Remember when you said that?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Federal-authorities-seize-nearly-fake-Super-Bowl-goods-020212

Now remember when "they" did this?

Edit: Thanks to icecap and Morgo for the support and understanding of this issue. Glad we are on the same page.

Remember that time I destroyed your logic Shock and Awe style? (see: Iraq War Shock and Awe for reference).

And you didn't respond, just tucked your tail between your legs and left the thread?

Let's get back to the part where you leave, regardless of how it's done, and don't come back. Your flawed criminal logic and stupidity is mind boggling.

Maybe he would make fun of what I wear, but guess what? I'm not a picture of a counterfit jersey on a site where people are uni/logo enthusiasts.

Most people here, would know it's a fake. You wouldn't know, because attention to detail and reality are two things you don't have a very firm grasp on.

Upset it's a Canucks jersey? Great argument, not like a Canucks fan also said, "Oh God why..." That could have been an Islanders jersey, and I'm sure for Nash could have been a Blue Jackets jersey and the reaction would be the same.

You think it looks good on him because your taste in quality has already been established as piss poor.

Go back to your Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory pages about the "man" being after you and "wasting time" on what your high IQ self doesn't consider a crime.

You were doing so well until you made it about Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura. Those two have nothing to do with the issue and would probably side with you and the rest of us sane people here. Besides that your post is on point like a javelin.

Those two were examples of conspiracy theorists in popular media, and logobro had alot to say about the Feds "manufacturing" and making crimes for their financial gain and conspiracies about the Federal Law Enforcement level being a joke essentially. So I lumped him in with those guys who also believe the Feds are all out to get us.

So do they have to do with the issue directly? Maybe. Indirectly? Yes, after his comments about the government and law enforcement. Those two would never side with us believing the Federal Government has a reason to exist and do their job.

Anyways, I appreciate your support on the rest of it. I'm really not sure why the guy is on this site when he doesn't care about logo/uni details, which is what brought alot of us here.

World famous para-athlete Rick Hansen.

WHHYYYYYY!!?!?!??!

Oh god why....

Because

1) He is a grown man who can wear what he wants (does he make fun of what you wear?) and

2) Most people wouldn't think it's a counterfeit. I wouldn't have thought it was a counterfeit if it wasn't posted in this thread. Is it counterfeit? Or are you upset that he is in a Canucks jersey?

I think it looks good on him. It's a nice jersey.

Remember that time I destroyed your logic Shock and Awe style? (see: Iraq War Shock and Awe for reference).

And you didn't respond, just tucked your tail between your legs and left the thread?

Let's get back to the part where you leave, regardless of how it's done, and don't come back. Your flawed criminal logic and stupidity is mind boggling.

Maybe he would make fun of what I wear, but guess what? I'm not a picture of a counterfit jersey on a site where people are uni/logo enthusiasts.

Most people here, would know it's a fake. You wouldn't know, because attention to detail and reality are two things you don't have a very firm grasp on.

Upset it's a Canucks jersey? Great argument, not like a Canucks fan also said, "Oh God why..." That could have been an Islanders jersey, and I'm sure for Nash could have been a Blue Jackets jersey and the reaction would be the same.

You think it looks good on him because your taste in quality has already been established as piss poor.

Go back to your Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory pages about the "man" being after you and "wasting time" on what your high IQ self doesn't consider a crime.

But people still get traffic tickets which are not high on the crime scale.

And often, that is a manufactured "crime."

Oh, and I could easily say that Chinese NFL jerseys are not "high on the crime scale."

They might not care or be able to get each person, but when it comes to mass quanities, you are incorrect, they do care.

And a big reason they care is because they need to "do stuff" to justify their existence. Oh, and to get money.

I realize you never stated it, but it seemed the way your argument was leaning.

Yeah, you misunderstood then. I only really say what I mean. I'm not a "hidden messages within my message" kind of guy.

I don't think Federal Law Enforcement are a bunch of busy bodies or self righteous.

If you ever get in trouble for a manufactured crime, you'll see where I'm coming from. If you never have, then you might not see where I am coming from.

Oh, and I don't believe that you aren't a criminal. That's bull . If you have ever driven over the speed limit, then you are a criminal. Or do you selectively break whichever laws you want, and then complain when other people break laws that you "feel" matter?

I'm stating two facts: it's illegal and it looks terrible.

LOL, so you saying that a nice jersey looks terrible makes it a fact? I guess that fits in well with your "logic."

As Charger said, all crimes are "manufactured." Alot of things haven't been illegal at some point, but then were decided to be illegal. Laws were established to set boundaries since the beginning of lawmaking. To say they are manufactured is redundant. And large scale counterfit jerseys that steal away jobs and money that could reach easily tens of thousands is surely high crime. That isn't petty theft.

Wow, you and Jessie Ventura and Charlie Sheen must see eye to eye on alot given your attitude of conspiracy in the Federal level.

"Do stuff" to justify their existence? No, that's people like yourself who do things that justify their being there. Getting money? Lol, yes because it is a well known fact law enforcement employees in the public sector are the billionaires and millionaires in this country. You are way off base, each Federal level of law enforcement exists to, watch what I do here, ENFORCE LAWS. The laws are there, the FBI agents and DHS agents don't make the laws, they ENFORCE them.

You only say what you mean? Sorry I have to paint a clear picture on everything for you, reading between the lines is surely something that takes at least a high school reading level.

If I get in trouble for one?! LOL. I'm not a criminal, I don't commit crimes. I'm on the side of law enforcement and have decided in my whole life to live without breaking the laws. If these laws that have been made over the past thousands of years upset you so much, go to a country like China where you beautiful jerseys are produced. Surely their laws are more just and punishments much more fair.

Speeding makes me a criminal? Ok, I am breaking a law by speeding, in that case I guess I'm worthy of the title, using your logic. But then I abide by laws I "feel" are worthy? Like not killing, raping, assaulting, manufacturing/selling drugs, counterfit, etc. Should I keep going? Crimes can be misdemeanor or felony, and in the law enforcement field such offenses as speeding are not referred to criminally, thus traffic court and traffic violations, not criminal court or criminal violations. The laws have established what crimes are severe and how severe they are, I choose to not be involved in criminal activity that is far worse.

And it is a fact they don't look nice. It's not my opinion, it looks cheap.

Anything else? I feel like I should charge you for this lesson on criminal law in the United States. You did, what you claim you don't, and didn't say what you meant. You implied you had been in trouble for being a criminal. So I guess that's why you dislike law enforcement so much, criminals usually do. Sorry I'm not sorry.

Cute. I think the FBI has a slightly different understanding of crime then you do.

Then the FBI must suck at their job, because they sure don't "show" their caring about Chinese NFL jerseys, considering how many people get away with it.

The FBI understands that there are bigger battles to fight than Chinese NFL jerseys, which is why they don't pay as much attention to them as you'd like.

Putting the word victimless before the word crime doesn't negate illegality or criminal behavior, which may be what you are getting at. But this a crime, and it does indeed have victims in many senses. The American workforce, those receiving profits from a product, the owners of places that sell the items legally, and so on.

I never said it was a victimless crime, which leads me to believe you didn't really read my post, and instead just want to argue for the sake of arguing.

I guess the "busybodies" in Federal Law Enforcement are "self righteous" according to you.

Yeah, I do think a lot of Federal Law Enforcement is a bunch of self-righteous busybodies. A lot of times they look to make up crimes just to justify their existence. Surely you already knew this? I would hope.

Also, I don't buy your quality argument. The appearance of a jersey is part of the quality, not just the material lasting over time. The crappy logos and words on the fake Ravens jersey and others is a sign of poor quality.

I don't think we're talking about the same jersey - that Ravens jersey looks fine, and most people on the street wouldn't give a damn. If the owner of the jersey is happy with his product, that's all that really matters - not whether YOU approve of it. Don't like it? Then don't buy it.

Yes, the FBI has many big battles to fight. But as my examples stated, the confiscating of Winter Classic jerseys in Canada, not FBI but Canadian Feds, show they are concerned. Just like local law enforcement, there will always be bigger fish to fry. But people still get traffic tickets which are not high on the crime scale. Also as I stated with MegaUpload being shut down, from what I've read many of these sites get shut down. Therefore, the FBI does care about mass counterfit rings. I've seen raids right in front of me in NYC for people selling purses. They might not care or be able to get each person, but when it comes to mass quanities, you are incorrect, they do care.

You're reading comprehension could also use some work it seems. I clearly said, "which may be what you are getting at." I realize you never stated it, but it seemed the way your argument was leaning. I applaud your attempt.

I don't think Federal Law Enforcement are a bunch of busy bodies or self righteous. I think they do a much needed job for our country and I appreciate what they do. Sure there are bad seeds in every job every place, and complaints about jobs. But on the whole, I don't find them to be creating crimes for the sake of it. Then again, I'm not a criminal so I have no fears them. I respect them and I'm glad they exist.

And we are. That jersey of the criminal looks like crap, fitting I suppose given the team and player. But like others have said, on a site like this, most of us are going to notice it. I admitted before most fans at games wouldn't think twice, but people here are those who have an appreciation for jerseys, logos, and are detail oriented types in these kind of situations. I'm not his mother or father, I don't need to approve. I'm stating two facts: it's illegal and it looks terrible. I'm sure plenty of people are happy with narcotics they purchase. Is that all that matters, that the consumer is pleased, not the legality of the product? As for the quality part to go along with the jersey analogy, I have no idea. But it's back to the DVD point already brought up.

I think I may find some of these sites selling fake jerseys and forward them to FBI or DHS in my spare time.

If I want to see Death Blow, I'll buy the DVD and not a choppy copy from Brody on the street.

Now you're making meaningless comparisons. You're comparing something whose bad quality directly worsens your enjoyment (a poor quality bootleg DVD) and something whose debatable bad quality doesn't negatively impact your enjoyment (a fake jersey). Based on the responses on this board, it seems like the fake jersey wearers are perfectly happy with their products, and the only people annoyed by it are the people who don't wear fakes - which is basically the exact opposite of the bootleg DVD example.

Nevertheless, I'll try to entertain your comparison.

I've bought bootleg DVD's before, and their quality sucked. So because of that, I'll probably never buy a bootleg DVD again. Many of the fake jerseys posted here seem fine. If I bought some fake jerseys and they fell apart within a month, I would acknowledge their quality sucked... but that hasn't happened to me. I don't have anything against people who buy fake jerseys. If I DO want to become some sort of self-righteous nosy busybody out to fight "crime," it's going to be against something that is a bigger deal and more serious than Chinese NFL jerseys.

Cute. I think the FBI has a slightly different understanding of crime then you do. Putting the word victimless before the word crime doesn't negate illegality or criminal behavior, which may be what you are getting at. But this a crime, and it does indeed have victims in many senses. The American workforce, those receiving profits from a product, the owners of places that sell the items legally, and so on.

I guess the "busybodies" in Federal Law Enforcement are "self righteous" according to you.

See: Piracy warning labels on DVDs and CDs.

See: MegaUpload shutdown.

See: Fake jerseys seized in Canada in past Winter Classic games.

Also, I don't buy your quality argument. The appearance of a jersey is part of the quality, not just the material lasting over time. The crappy logos and words on the fake Ravens jersey and others is a sign of poor quality.

NicktheRipper has a point, that I stated before. Sleeve patches look awful on fakes. And he's a moron because he said it's a patch? Direct emrboidery, patch, we know what we are all talking about. The logo affixed in someway onto the sleeve that has some detail to it.

When I get past the fact that I HATE the Ravens and HATE that worthless loud mouthed criminal Ray Lewis...the jersey doesn't look good.

The logos on the sleeves and font on the chest, just like with the Bucs, looks like crap. It's very obvious it's a fake to myself and probably most of us on here. Maybe not to a majority of fans, but it would bother me personally. It looks off, and that's despite the fact it's that bum on the jersey.

If you can't afford an authentic, don't buy it. Seems rather simple. No one NEEDS a jersey, let alone an authentic.

I don't buy at all that your fake is better quality. Most are the same crap made in the same places, but there has to be a reason, other than the legal reasons, why it's so much cheaper. The material may be similar, but the details which I find to be worth paying for are costly.

You aren't a better fan because most people think you have an "authentic" jersey, and yes they are authentic style. Just not game issued.

Not to mention, in the perilous time this country is in, why not support your own country? It probably won't be much more considering, but buying from NFL Shop or your local sporting goods store does more to support your own country than the country that has taken plenty of our jobs and makes most of the products anyways.

You're way too pissy about a jersey dude. This is the beauty of capitalism. Anyone can purchase what they'd like with their own money. So no one has to have authetnic jerseys or spend more on a jersey. In that same sense, dealing in stolen property and purchasing known counterfit items are criminal in theory, before you try to argue you can buy whatever. Technically yes, but I prefer to remain under the confines of the law.

I only have 3 authentics, 2 football and 1 hockey, all real. The one Strahan authentic is now about 7 or 8 years (more than 6) old and looks amazing. I purchased it in FL when it was on a discount rack at a sporting goods store. No signs of wear or tear at all, it looks fantastic.

I'd rather not waste my time taking pictures and uploading them here to show you my real jersey, that is older and well worn looks much better than your fake jersey that isn't as old. But I may have to do that when I have time. I'm sure you'll have an excuse for it, so I'm not sure I'm going to bother.

Ok, I have to admit it to someone. I broke down and bought two fakes today. An Aaron Rodgers green jersey with the Super Bowl patch and a Bucs red Josh Freeman jersey. I have a few fakes that I purchased from fan fests that looked so spot on it was hard to initially tell they were fake (Peyton and Eli Super Bowl jerseys), and I have one or two I've bought that look pretty iffy but I haven't been able to find that particular player anywhere else (Mike Alstott white, my absolute favorite player of all time). I expect the Aaron Rodgers jersey to be really close, and the Freeman jersey to be a bit spotty, but still not awful.

I know the objections, and I agree with a lot of the points. But IMO the quality of fan jerseys have plummeted over the years and the price has done nothing but go up. When I saw the Gronkowski jersey that was posted in a thread earlier that was a terribly flimsy screen printed jersey that cost $100 or more it really outraged me. A bunch of you won't agree with my decision to support the fake market, and I don't blame you. But when there is a wider selection of jerseys available than the NFL shop offers, and when the quality is miles better than the screen printed shirts they offer for 1/5 of the price, it's hard to turn down. With all of the negatives of the counterfeit world, I hope it at least forces the NFL to offer a quality product for a more reasonable price. The market is so monopolized on jerseys it's almost insulting what they charge for such low quality crap. I know it's a rogue market with a TON of problems, but I hope it can at least force the NFL's hand in offering quality products.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, and I know some of you will always be firmly against the idea, and your entitled to feel that way and rightfully should. But for as bad as these fake markets are, I like that they at least give people the choice and maybe in some inadvertent way, it can be a good thing. If the quality was better and the price was more reasonable, I would never turn to the fake jersey market.

Not that I care one way or another what you do with your money. I'll tell you that if you like details you will probably not be happy with the Freeman jersey. The ship patches on the arms of the fake ones look really bad. You can easily tell they're a fakes, which might not be a big deal what other people think, but it would bother me personally that they look so bad. The Buccaneers scrips on the center chest usually looks really bad too.

You can get away with fakes with teams like the Packers and Colts and Raiders, teams like that. But with detailed patches and scripts like the Bucs, that is when you can really tell the poor quality.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me all that much. For $20 you get what you pay for. I'd rather have a fully stitched jersey that doesn't look 100% correct that was cheap than have a screen printed jersey that begins to fall apart after two washes that was 5 to 6 times the price.

I know the objections, and I agree with a lot of the points. But IMO the quality of fan jerseys have plummeted over the years and the price has done nothing but go up.

...and this infringes on your constitutional right to own a Packers jersey?

When did I ever say that?

Makes sense, just wanted to give you a heads up in case it would be something that would irritate you after you got it, not sure if you were aware.

Ok, I have to admit it to someone. I broke down and bought two fakes today. An Aaron Rodgers green jersey with the Super Bowl patch and a Bucs red Josh Freeman jersey. I have a few fakes that I purchased from fan fests that looked so spot on it was hard to initially tell they were fake (Peyton and Eli Super Bowl jerseys), and I have one or two I've bought that look pretty iffy but I haven't been able to find that particular player anywhere else (Mike Alstott white, my absolute favorite player of all time). I expect the Aaron Rodgers jersey to be really close, and the Freeman jersey to be a bit spotty, but still not awful.

I know the objections, and I agree with a lot of the points. But IMO the quality of fan jerseys have plummeted over the years and the price has done nothing but go up. When I saw the Gronkowski jersey that was posted in a thread earlier that was a terribly flimsy screen printed jersey that cost $100 or more it really outraged me. A bunch of you won't agree with my decision to support the fake market, and I don't blame you. But when there is a wider selection of jerseys available than the NFL shop offers, and when the quality is miles better than the screen printed shirts they offer for 1/5 of the price, it's hard to turn down. With all of the negatives of the counterfeit world, I hope it at least forces the NFL to offer a quality product for a more reasonable price. The market is so monopolized on jerseys it's almost insulting what they charge for such low quality crap. I know it's a rogue market with a TON of problems, but I hope it can at least force the NFL's hand in offering quality products.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, and I know some of you will always be firmly against the idea, and your entitled to feel that way and rightfully should. But for as bad as these fake markets are, I like that they at least give people the choice and maybe in some inadvertent way, it can be a good thing. If the quality was better and the price was more reasonable, I would never turn to the fake jersey market.

Not that I care one way or another what you do with your money. I'll tell you that if you like details you will probably not be happy with the Freeman jersey. The ship patches on the arms of the fake ones look really bad. You can easily tell they're a fakes, which might not be a big deal what other people think, but it would bother me personally that they look so bad. The Buccaneers scrips on the center chest usually looks really bad too.

You can get away with fakes with teams like the Packers and Colts and Raiders, teams like that. But with detailed patches and scripts like the Bucs, that is when you can really tell the poor quality.

The two people in front of me at the Bolts game tonight were wearing fakes.

Really bad ones. I pointed it out to my Dad, he had never noticed people jerseys that closely, but now he will haha.

The logos and fonts were just dreadful. I've seen semi-decent fakes, but these were some bad ones.

As horrible as the Blue Jays' 2004-2011 look was, I do think having a graphite/gray cap should get some points for, at the very least, being "unique."

I loved the Blue Jays look with black, blue, and gray.

Uniqueness no longer gets you anything apparently.

Stellar contribution with the picture. Really added to this thread.

Some of us, myself included, appreciate when a team does something unique and not a carbon copy of the past or of other teams.