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Cleveland Cavaliers Reveal New Uniforms for 2022-23
truepg replied to Indigo's topic in Sports Logo News
I'll have to agree with this. P.S. Contrary to the common sentiment, I like the black set the most out of the three. There's nothing wrong with the C logo and it is beautiful with the gold, and makes that uni only more interesting of the bunch using all three colors, since they're all so overly simple. Somewhat like the Hawks' black set. The number is placed visually properly in regards to the logo, and if anything, black is the better and more fitting choice than navy to pair with the two main colors, and complements them well. -
Ditching it was the biggest mistake.
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You already said it all right there. After seeing the beautiful photoshop concepts of the possible new uniforms, I was already ready to fully sign-off on this new direction with the uncalled for return of the ball-net logo replacing the sword, but little did I know. That being said, as a Cavs fan I've already experienced this kind of change, and the Cavs had already hit rock bottom with their unis once before, so, I'm not gonna let it affect me that much. At least we have a nice up-and-coming team, lol. On a positive note, the graphic elements used are nice along with the inline number treatment, and the color scheme with the proper gold is gorgeous and does really set them apart from the rest of the league. The number placement together with the C logo on the black jersey has also been resolved in a proper way. Only that I'd have preferred the number inline to be cropped out on the wine and black unis.
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Good to see that the new sponsor patch might be applied in teams' colors.
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I'm confused? You guys can't even stay on track and pay attention properly to what I've been saying. And that was literally what was suggested to me. The last thing I need to be doing is proving anything to anybody around here. The last time, though, another user demanded me to show the free font that I claimed was used on a jersey ended up being just that to his utter amazement. Even then, as I had already pinpointed and skimmed over it, it's been done on these boards already numerous times before regarding the Nets, and there's really no reason to pick anything thoroughly apart here anyways, since, as it seems, the contingent on these boards isn't mostly much affiliated with the design realms, nor that it should be. Either way, you should've already settled to disagree and moved on by now, as it was already obvious.
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I was responding to your suggestion of coming up with one myself. The actual Nets logo is its own separate discussion. I did bring it up in another message, but I had answered that point of yours already too: What comes to the herringbone pattern – it's as useless a detail as the fainted stripes on the new Jazz' unis that isn't visible apart from a real head-on close-up inspection that doesn't make the design in general any better. So it's absurd that its being brought up in this comparison all the while the one y'all defend has the same exact issue.
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Coming up with an appropriate professional logo requires time, effort and dedication, and I'm not up for that in case of this matter. However, some decent ideas have popped up here along the way, from someone who had taken part in the developmental design stages or just other that would be more fitting. I went through all the issues in general. Sure, we could pick apart and go through every element and detail here in specific, but that has been done already several times on here ever since the Nets introduced their logos and identity, so I'll just leave it at that for now.
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None of those points change or affect the fact. Just says more about the people in question. The Nets logos were even brought up here just recently by another user as an example of the poor level of design in the NBA amongst the major leagues, and pop up every now and then. That being said, the proficiency level of design the NBA fields and half its teams come up with is rather questionable and not impeccably professional to a considerable extent. What can a novice say here?
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I will be expressing any opinions I see right and suitable, and argumented, on top of that, regardless of whomever considers them "unpopular" or any other thing I could care less about on well-founded grounds or not, like you do there without giving any legitimate design arguments. Oh really? The hell.. SMH. Talking about mirrors and asking me, next time you'll know better than to take the freedom of calling out someone.
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Simplicity and the Brooklyn look is one thing, poor quality of execution is another. The second part with embracing the purple mountains was my stance from the beginning. Everything being posted right now off point that I made.
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You can buy whatever the heck you want or not. Hundreth time again, the conversation wasn't about how appropriate it is for Utah or the Jazz, which I've been an opponent of from the beginning, but the quality of technical execution of whatever it is they decided to go with in this case. Once again, reading comprehension, FFS.
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It looks like the front number being that big and aligned with and tightly to the wordmark was the specific intention. The Nets' jersey elements just follow, well, the basic alignment. The Nets' amateurish approach is present everywhere in their identity starting from the details in their logos to the font selection and treatment and ending with just how lousy and lackluster the level of the graphic elements, logos and uniforms as a whole are. A team in a league at the highest professional level in the world has to hold itself to respective standards. Whatever this new Jazz identity is, at least it was executed in a professional way in terms of design principles, and it shows.
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Never disagreed with that from the beginning.
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I wasn't talking about looking like the Jazz in particular. You just agreed with my point. It isn't applied amateurishly, though (like the Nets brand is in general). The fact that the rebrand is outlandish wasn't part of the point I made there. You think I give a d*mn about whatever your majority thinks? I don't come here to be agreeing with the majority, I come here to express my opinion on the topic.
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When talking just about "simple" looks, Utah still did the Brooklyn better than the Nets. Yes, the Nets have additionally a (basic ) trim, but Jazz' typography – the wordmark and the numbers – is actually rather crisp and well-designed, and the logo is still way better than what the Nets have. And black and yellow is still more interesting than black and white.
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It might not be the first time. I recall them already using this type of court these previous years in summer league.
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I'm assessing the Wolves' situation from the point of view of a fan of another similarly "non-desired destination" franchise – the Cavs – that I've been supporting for already 20 years soon. And if that swing won't work, I'm not content with having to settle for keeping on losing and be handicapped for the foreseeable future. I want to see my team have the opportunities to bounce back and put themselves in the best position as soon as possible from there on. Let alone that the draft is an intriguing part of all the fun in its own right that is no less exciting to be engaged in. Another thing is, was Gobert's desire to play for the Wolves a deciding factor in case of this particular trade? Otherwise I don't see how the destination would affect the given up value for him.
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Boston has made all the right moves in adding serious pieces to form a championship squad. The Gobert trade for Minny is brutal. The amount they gave away for him picks included, and the fact that it's Rudy Gobert, he's not worth nearly that much. What comes to the amusement park comparison, I don't see it that way, since, as a fan, you're emotionally invested in one franchise and want to see it have the best opportunities to succeed going forward too. You could go to any amusement park and enjoy it as much or even more than your local one, and not have any attachment to it in principle.
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But when they play in their away unis that are mainly purple, they are mainly purple teams. Lakers are as much purple as they are yellow to me. Charlotte wasn't the first on the list, though.
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But the plan should be to acquire such a big through the draft or trades, and build the team by adding those pieces. He might not be D-Wade, but he's just the type of player they needed to build around with who does everything, just like the Cavs do with Garland, and compete from there. The Cavs were not going to be playing for the title right off the jump. The 6th-8th seed is a logical next step for them. Taking a step back wasn't really what I was expecting of the Spurs at this stage and in Pop's career. EDIT: That being said, Murray isn't the best of fits in the backcourt for Atlanta alongside Trey at all. We'll see how it works.
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Potentially five purple teams is too many to me for such an eccentric color, as with any other color scheme, really.
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But do we really need another red-white-navy team? That color scheme with whatever variant of blue happens to be the most common in American sports. There were several teams with that color scheme in the NBA in the '00-'10s, and at one point during that period literally about half the league was red.
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It appears they moved him because he wasn't about to extend his contract this year nor the next, as he would command bigger offers as a free agent. I guess the Spurs got a good return for him in this case, but why wouldn't they pay him the money themselves? Dejounte is exactly the piece they should build around in their situation. Who are they so tied to with their money on their roster?
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Even though to me the Utah Jazz is all Stockton-Malone purple mountains, I'll be all for it if they went straight up to this color scheme with the same color distribution. That good it was: EDIT: Now that I think of it, Pelicans should've just stayed with it. The colors they switched to are very drab. As a side note, there really are too many purple teams indeed.
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Those are beautiful colors. The NOLA Hornets used to have an identity using that kind of colors indeed, and it was an outstanding uniform package along with the graphics.
