truepg
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What they switched from made this very lackluster uniform in a vacuum too so much more disastrous. The "colors" is arguable, they looked better to me priorly with metallic gold and do so much better now and stand out from the other teams to their advantage with it back.
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What about the Spurs having Dejounte Murray in trade discussions? How does that make sense? Why would you shop a young all-star triple-double machine franchise-cornerstone playmaker when you're a young up and coming team trying to build something and heading in the right direction? Can't see how a John Collins would be better for them.
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But timeless and classy, and unprofessionally lackluster are different things, though. The Cavs still hold that title by a margin. What they switched from in favor of this makes it way more egregious than the Jazz.
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Also, the Heat basically had this identity along with the wordmark from the get-go, only with some minor tweaks. They are also not the "Magic", though, that implies "fantasy". Actually, I don't feel the Heat's identity is stripped-down any, they have a streaking ball in flames as a logo, after all. It's all just an example of being designed in such a solid way that there's nothing more to add or to remove, and would work as well anywhere. The Heat did have a "flame" gradient in their logo at first, though.
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The thing is that the Magic used to have an identity and uniforms that matched their brand in "playfulness" and were totally appropriate in their effort, but then at one point around the beginning of Dwight's career they decided to tone it down for some reason and went further replacing the decent wordmark in the logo with the one on the jerseys that was rather plain. While I don't think the Heat suffer from the issue you mentioned, I totally share your sentiments of the Magic doing so.
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Is no one gonna talk about how there hardly were any current player trades and none involving any big names during the draft? What was that all about?? First time I see it go that way after annual excitement... Considering there's as much trade rumors floating as always this time in the offseason too.
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Aside from those two wordmarks not working visually together, that "Miami" that was used on the City jerseys too just isn't as impeccably solid design-wise and on the same level as the (current) Heat wordmark, and would get tired quickly. The black hoop commands too much attention away from the ball, hence white works better there. What comes to magenta alongside orange, I'm not really a fan of that color combination that the Floridians used to have, the hues are too close to each other. Don't see it necessary for the current Heat.
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Well, the Heat's identity is very solid and one of the best designed in the league apart from having a winning and long-standing history.
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Exactly, and it would look much better with black stripes on yellow and yellow on black and white. It might be a similar kind of "chrome" thing they put on the court, but comes across only as a gimmick that doesn't do much visually on the unis.
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One thing that softens the blow for me in Jazz' case is that the identity they used to have starting from the logo and ending with the color palette was one of, if not the most boring, uninteresting and uninspired in the league. Only the Thunder have another clear case here. So, not that I will miss any of that. Not a fan of the Mardi Gras-like NOLA colorway in any form.
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Ow, this Cavs' version is actually fire!
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Well, yeah, the options are limited. Actually, I'm pleased to see them wear it, but it would be more interesting if they used the earlier and the initial version of the uniform with bronze color in place of gold, the one MJ played in. Or maybe they will?
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Even though I'm not indifferent towards this uniform, it feels weird and premature to have it as a Classic edition already when it was still their main look up till ten years ago.
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This means inline numbers are coming.
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My, oh my. So, they took the poor primary logo and removed the one good and redeeming element from it, and kept everything else. Also removing the most interesting symbolic element that distinguishes this team from everyone else. I kinda see that you couldn't have had both the ball-net and the sword as the centerpiece of the identity, but we didn't need that net logo at all. That being said, however, in a vacuum, it is very well executed, and could've been used as an insignificant tertiary logo in the same manner of the Hornets' "Buzz City" logo, and make an appearance on an alternate jersey or something if they so badly wanted to. Well, at least the transition to metallic gold is the redeeming part of this change, but boy they failed to improve even on the previous update. Hoping the unis would make up for this considerably. LeBron 1.0 era identity is still the best one of all its different forms we've seen. P.S. What comes to comments on the ball lacking seams – there is enough intricate detailing in the letters' inlines and the net, so adding lines to the ball would be too much visually. Also, let's not pretend they were intending to design a Larry O'Brien trophy element – because it's not, it's just a net and a ball – they just came up with that notion afterwards. Then again, for a city that so much values its title after striving for it for so long and having finally won one, I don't see any harm done and totally appropriate.
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I hope that new CAVS with a net is only an alternate logo, didn't feel it needed a comeback at all. The sword has been an excellent symbol for the Cavaliers and they'd be wise to keep it. Also the C mark really works with a flattened single-color gold "drop shadow". Weird to see a team go back to a bleaker shade in an era of vibrant colors, but then again, I never was fully onboard with the recent bright yellow, and this sets them well apart from the Nuggets and makes their identity more unique.
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To me that logo was just okay, a little on the generic side. The first rendition of the court with that identity, though, had everything right in every way, and I don't get why they felt the need to mess around with it so many times after, resulting in not so good and considerably weaker looks.
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Yeah, sure, but the Thunder and the Nets logos don't really have much design "flaws" as they're just poor logos, and that Clippers' on a level of its own, of course (even though the LAC monogram is decent to me). Then there are those modifications in the form of unnecessary add-ons to what used to be very solid logos - the Cavs, Wizards, Rockets - that make the new entity weak or visually dysfunctional. Those new Spurs' logos, though, have design flaws that shouldn't have made it past the senior designers in charge.
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I'm surprised how incredibly amateur these logos are. The spur on the X is extremely forced, all while they could've made it come off the left leg of the X, it is right there. Also creating such an awkward huge negative space between the TX, which also could've been resolved. The state shaped logo is fine, but why include the depth effect on the stem of the spur and not have it anywhere else on the graphic, making it stick out like a sore thumb? Then they shrink the SATX logo with all its outlines as is and slap it onto a ball, creating unnecessary clutter and inconsistency in the outlines of the resulting logo.
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I like that they're experimenting with the caps – it's a one-off that really doesn't hold that much significance and allows to do that – but it's not really home runs they're hitting, especially with a white base color. Every cap should represent the identity of the respective team strongly and that way be clearly distinguishable from one another.
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We've come to a point where I'm longing for Miami in the red uniforms again, so little I've seen them wear it lately. We've actually reached the mark where wearing an alternate feels special and is looked forward to, the way it used to be.
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If talking about facts, Kyrie was also just a few years in into his young career when LeBron joined Cleveland already as an experienced veteran with two titles. LeBron had never won a ring without other stars either (his team-jumping and gathering other superstars to unite with is a considerable let-down in his career of its own, for that matter). Then Kyrie did miss the playoffs his first year with Boston. Not gonna win ever can't be said yet. Not comparing the two players here, but Kyrie was as crucial to Cleveland's chip, and my point was that calling him 'LeBron's Pippen' is not doing that '16 title effort justice at all.
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Not really, his personality and antics/decisions aside, Kyrie was as much a reason as LeBron for the Cavs' '16 title, who willed Cleveland to the championship that year. He had a phenomenal performance in that Finals, scoring 41 points apiece with LeBron in one of the games among others, and the shot was as significant, if not even more of a staple that decided the victory, than the epic block by LeBron that preceded it. What comes to the verbal beefing with fans and the stuff Beverley did after the play-in win too – I love it, it adds drama, passion and emotions to the games. Otherwise the product has gotten too soft and watered-down with all the regulations, restrictions and buddy-buddy atmosphere. The fans are the ones who 'ask for it' once they decide to shout such things, anyway.
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Many things would be better than their current lifeless primaries. The green fir trees (trim) had become such an iconic and unique thing of theirs that they ought to include them as an integral part of their uniforms and identity and stick to it. The mashup uniforms are very decent indeed, but there are lots of ways to improve on the primary set using the fir trees and green more prominently. What's interesting, is that the green tree trim also worked best with a black jersey base, while I'm usually an opponent of the current craze of making black uniforms for the sake of it, (or for better profit, whatever). While not feeling it very much at the time either, I'll use this also as yet another opportunity to voice that the latest brand renewal was a lateral move at best from the previous graphic package, and really not very necessary, in terms of logos, at least.
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Everything indicates that they might've redesigned the O'Brien trophy indeed, since the seams on the ball and the net are silver in the new Finals logo, unlike it used to be.
