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  1. 3 hours ago, BBTV said:

    BLUE COLLAR, because marketers will have you believe that every city is BLUE COLLAR and that everyone in every city BRINGS THEIR LUNCH TO WORK IN A PAIL.  If you'll excuse me, I'm off to my management job in a downtown office building where I'm going to post on blogs about how certain athletes aren't "philly guys" because they're not BLUE COLLAR like me.  Hopefully my assistant doesn't disturb me by bringing me my coffee while I'm in the middle of posting.

     

    The brown remains unchanged.

  2. I posted that Hurricanes image in the 24-25 thread before because I didn't know where to put it and mentioned there was someone in the Hurricanes subreddit who said they got the email said it felt more like a concept testing phase with the accompanying questions asking things like "do you like a stylized letter with team colors/concepts like Calgary’s ‘C’ or script words like…"

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    Someone in the Hurricanes subreddit who said they got the email said it felt more like a concept testing phase with the accompanying questions asking things like "do you like a stylized letter with team colors/concepts like Calgary’s ‘C’ or script words like…"

  4. 2 hours ago, chcarlson23 said:

    Did the Flyers then reach out to a different company to have them create their jerseys for the team store? 

     

    It's their first Reverse Retro so they probably did do that. Adidas wasn't going to make them anymore but I guess the Flyers felt it was something there was still a market for.

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  5. 36 minutes ago, PurpleHayes said:

    So the uniforms are being revealed on the 23rd...what I want to know is, what time is the LEAK of the uniforms scheduled for? 😆

     

    Somebody needs to check out the Houston airport for a vinyl wrapped window.

     

    (Am I correctly remembering that's the leak of the previous Jags set?)

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  6. 29 minutes ago, The_Admiral said:

    Warriors and Sharks should have both gone in on San Francisco. 

     

    Surveying the NHL cities that lost their teams by refusing to be held hostage, it's actually kind of a split decision. The Twin Cities didn't miss a beat financially with the loss of the North Stars/Met Center; they had a new arena and just built out the Mall of America even more. Everyone felt really bad about it but I don't think it had a devastating economic impact. I don't think losing the Nordiques helped Quebec City but probably didn't hurt it materially. Winnipeg is a rare case where getting the team back did seem to spur on economic development because TNSE captured pretty much all of downtown on the cheap, which wouldn't have happened without bringing the Jets back, so you can say that they were better off with hockey. Downtown Hartford was dying then and dead now; I think the causal relationship between that and the Whalers leaving is pretty solid but it's highly debatable whether Karmanos even held Hartford at ransom or was always going to try for Michigan anyway. Atlanta lost the Thrashers and hasn't felt a thing, but the situation never even progressed to tax-money-or-else.

     

    So basically, if you're a moribund, borderline major-league market with very little else going for you but a desperate last gasp of civic pride, you might want to invest in pro sports at almost any cost, but if that's your situation, you may not even be presented with the option to begin with.

     

    Not to derail this thread any more, but it's interesting reading that with what's happening/happened here in Calgary and this new arena. I definitely think Calgary is above a Winnipeg or a Hartford, but definitely below Atlanta (don't know much about the Twin Cities, but I think it might be somewhat equivalent). However, the interesting thing is that I don't think Calgary is truly a die-hard "sports town".

     

    The difference here in Calgary is that all the sports teams are under the Flames/CSEC to varying levels of success under CSEC rule (but I'm unsure how CSEC measures success with the non-Flames teams nor what Hollywood accounting might be in place regarding finances) so if the Flames went, there would have been massive ripple effects.

  7. 1 hour ago, dont care said:

    He can be as devoted as he wants, doesn’t change the fact that Atlanta is a failed market twice now.

     

    Like I said earlier in this thread, at least I think it was this thread, the relocation of the prior two Atlanta franchises can be argued away if wanted.

     

    At the very least, I definitely think it's disingenuous to hold the Flames move against any potential future Atlanta team.

  8. 2 hours ago, henburg said:

    Would it be too derivative to do something like the Colorado Rapids and change the current denim blue to a sky blue? Would provide much better contrast at least.

     

    A lighter blue would definitely work as brought up by @tBBP.

     

    Here's Tufts University.

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    Colorado's burgundy isn't the same as Tuft's brown, it's much more like the Phillies throwbacks which also just happen to use a lighter blue

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  9. 3 hours ago, tBBP said:

    Not the end of the world, of course, but if the Avs are gonna continue to use those specific tones of red and blue, they definitely could use something of sharper contrast to break them up. 

     

    The two colours are barely touching on the jersey to begin with though? I mean, because when I look at these, I don't see any contrast issues or bleeding between the two.

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    As opposed to a sharper contrast to break them up, how about just white? Change the grey striping to white and then add a blue stripe "on top" of the white stripe on the aways. Like the Blue Jackets aways.

     

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  10. 17 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said:

    The Avs probably used black gear, because burgundy or steel blue breezers and gloves were probably too hard to come by in the 90’s. So they chose black, and then shoehorned it into the rest of the sweaters, forever making their color scheme ridiculous complicated. 

     

    I just looked to see if there was any crossover when the Ducks switched to the black equipment for a short period, which has been explained away as issues getting the purple equipment (though I don't know if I've ever seen an "official" explanation), but they had the black equipment for 97-98 and 98-99 which is after the Avs came in.

     

    However, I do wonder how much, if any, of the Rocky Mountain Extreme made it through to the the Avalanche.

  11. 1 hour ago, Morgan33 said:

    The Flames logo is a symbol to represent the team, not a literal illustration of a C on fire.  And this comment isn't directed at people who prefer either version, just that argument itself.

    "The white C represents white-hot fire"
    "The Black C looks burned out like the state of the franchise, lulz"


    It's a sports logo.  Either version is perfectly acceptable to represent a fire based team.

     

    Oil isn't  orange, lions aren't Honolulu blue, coyotes don't wear clothes and stand on two legs.

     

    The only arguments of that kind that I will accept are whenever a lobster based team (of the very few that there are) uses a red lobster because that means their lobster is dead, cooked and about to be eaten and when the New England Patriots wear red.

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  12. 12 hours ago, ruttep said:

    Anyone else feel like the theming for Kiprusoff's number retirement should've been the 2000s red/black jersey?

     

    Yes, I definitely agree.

     

    The Flames just haven't been super great at the retirement number banners;

     

    They had Lanny McDonald's banner like this from 1990 to 2011

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    They then originally retired Mike Vernon's number in 2007 in the style of the red and black jerseys, (You can see the McDonald banner in the background. Because of the layout of the Saddledome, the Flames (and Hitmen) will raise banners to a more centre point of the arena for the ceremony and then move them to the permanent spot later)

     

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    In 2011, they moved the banners to a new spot and updated the old Lanny MacDonald banner to a white version more similar to the current banner (but with a straightened and more bubbly version of the at the time Flames NOB font and almost uncanny valley incorrect block numbers) and changed the Vernon one to match.

     

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    They then created the retired number second tier "Forever a Flame" (that the Flames spread to the Hitmen and Roughnecks, which as a concept is a bit more defendable with those two teams) for Al MacInnis in 2012 and Joe Nieuwendyk in 2014, which was not entirely well received in the fanbase for either.

     

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    They then switched the MacDonald and Vernon banners to the current red version for Iginla's ceremony in 2019, leading to where we are today with Kiprusoff's.

     

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  13. On 1/10/2024 at 8:44 PM, neo_prankster said:

    I honestly wish Disney had based the Mighty Ducks in San Diego instead of Anaheim.

     

    That way, the expansion fee would've been cheaper without having to compensate the Kings.

     

    On 1/10/2024 at 9:09 PM, Ridleylash said:

    Why would Disney have put the Ducks a whole 95 miles from their California park, especially considering they were literally branding the team after one of their movies in the first place? It makes more sense to put them close to Disneyland so that you can easily cross-promote the team and the park.

     

    On 1/12/2024 at 2:38 PM, neo_prankster said:

    1) The Ducks could've had San Diego all to themselves instead of sharing the greater LA market with the Kings.

     

    2) If Disney chose San Diego instead of Anaheim, they wouldn't have had to give a penny to that con man Bruce McNall.

     

    3) Here in San Diego, we could've had a newer arena to replace the old SD Sports Arena by '95 or so on the same parking lot. I mean, a new arena built by Disney...privately financed...that would've made us San Diegans happy.

     

    4) I feel like San Diego, even back in the early 90's, would be a big enough city to support an NHL team. And given our history of supporting minor league teams at every opportunity, I really wished our elected officials at the time could've convinced Eisner to bring the Ducks here. Even if that meant playing temporarily at the old Sports Arena while the Pond was being built.

     

    Jumping into this late, Disney had nothing to do with the arena construction. Ground broke on the now-Honda Center 25 months before Disney was even awarded the expansion franchise and the arena was already scheduled to be opened about six months after the expansion was announced.

     

    Disney specifically picked Anaheim and approached the NHL about Anaheim. It was their first and, practically speaking, only choice and I don't know if Disney would have had any interest in a hockey team had there not already been an in-progress arena down the street from Disneyland. Norm Green had a backroom deal with the Anaheim Arena to move the North Stars there but the NHL blocked it (in exchange for essentially rubber stamping Green's second choice) because Disney approached the NHL about wanting Anaheim.

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  14. 5 hours ago, tBBP said:

     

    I just want to circle back to this tweet, now that I'm getting caught up.

     

    Did everyone just completey gloss over the FONT  used in this tweet? Tell me someone else sees what I see in plain sight: an updated version of the old logo font. This also leads me to now believe we will indeed be seeing an updated version of the 80s-90s JETS helmet logo.

     

    (I also wouldn't be totally mad if they fleshed out an accompanying number set with that font, either, just based off the three digits that appear up there...)

     

    Someone on the Jets subreddit created a version of the logo using the font from the release.

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    However, the person added serifs/points to the letters that aren't there in the social media graphics.

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  15. As someone from Calgary, the Northern Lights connection seem like a bit of an stretch for "Alberta skies" in relation to Calgary. Yeah, the Northern Lights can be seen in Alberta skies and can be seen from Calgary but they're much more an Edmonton/Northern Alberta thing, not really a Calgary/Southern Alberta thing.

     

    If they wanted a Calgary skies effect, they should have gone with a chinook arch.

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  16. 2 hours ago, zubazpirate said:

    Well yes, that was my point, there aren't really any potential WHL expansion sites in Canada because of the enormous capital costs associated with a team.

     

    I know and we are essentially saying the same thing. 

     

    What am I trying to say in regards to your point is that it reads like you are saying it's a problem that the WHL has grown and as a result is now closing off potential markets because of that. I'm saying is that I don't see a problem because the WHL doesn't appear to be looking to expand, especially to a smaller market, and any unfilled WHL market either can't make it work due to costs/population or has a Jr. A franchise (or both in a lot of cases). 

     

    So if the WHL isn't looking to expand and none of "open" markets can or are willing to meet WHL arena or population standards, I don't see a problem, it's just how it is.

     

    2 hours ago, zubazpirate said:

    Nanaimo and Winnipeg are two places that could easily a support a team on an operating basis, but once you factor in the $80 million-$120 million arena that each team would need, then the math falls apart.

     

    Nanaimo has been discussed many times in the past about doing what eventually happened in Wenatchee and essentially promoting the existing Jr. A franchise. However, there hasn't been anything actual and I think the moment has passed.

     

    Winnipeg is in a special situation and if you are basing your whole viewpoint on what happened to the Ice, it's not a situation that can really be applied to other markets because I don't know if the WHL really wanted that team out there and they clearly didn't hesitate to abandon the market. Wenatchee didn't have to build a new arena to get the team, they're still in the same arena they were in for the BCHL.

     

    2 hours ago, zubazpirate said:

    Grande Prairie and Lloydminster could support WHL teams too if they could use the type of arena that was standard in WHL back in the 1980s, but they can't realistically pull off getting a large 5,000 seat venue built. BC is a bit of a different situation altogether because so many of the non-WHL markets are locked up by the BCHL.

     

    The WHL isn't using the arena standards they had in the 80s, so GP and Lloyd can't support WHL teams. Like I said above, I don't think that's a problem. GP and Lloyd have also been in the Jr. A circuit for decades and have evolved as such with the other Alberta non-WHL markets who have Jr. A teams as well.

  17. 32 minutes ago, Pigskin12 said:

    We are also probably not gonna see much green again since they'll wear both white and black at home for 2-3 games each.

     

    28 minutes ago, HOOVER said:

    Maybe the fact that they're going with the "Legacy" theme means they'll honor that a bit and not mix & match as much.  We can hope. 

    It would be nice if they just followed the other traditional franchises in the league and quit playing Barbie with uniforms.  Green/Green/White and Green/White/White.  You want to mix up socks?  Fine.  But if you leave Green pants out of the mix, I don't see any reason they'd wear the White jerseys with Black pants, being that the Sack Exchange White jerseys have no Black on them.

     

    14 minutes ago, Brian E said:

    yeah, IMO, i think they really only wore the black pants with the previous set of white jerseys to give the players some say in not looking as terrible. don't think they'd do that again anytime soon.

     

    I think it would be fair to give the Jets a little leeway on combinations for this upcoming set until they show otherwise. I also do believe what we saw the Jets doing over the last two seasons was a result of fatigue with that uniform set and nobody liking them anymore. The white was deemed as the better looking of the options to run out the clock on the five years.

     

    With the previous Pennington-Sanchez-Early Nike set, they rarely wore white at home.

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  18. 4 minutes ago, DrunkKidCatholic said:

    The black dot concern me.

     

    I edited my post to a newer tweet, but I don't know if it took fast enough.

     

    The tweet and the website release says this year's throwback whites will be permanent and there will be a green and a black version added.

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