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28 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

No confirmation on that, yet. And if that decision had been made early enough that teams would already be making design decisions over it, I'd think we'd have heard by now.

 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen.

For everybody cheering on alt helmets for throwback white Patriots, orange Bucs, red Bills, etc, Nike is thinking sea foam green Cowboys, yellow Chiefs, neon green Seahawks, Black 49ers, grey Giants...

...and who knows what they'd do to the Rams.

On 9/20/2020 at 5:42 PM, the admiral said:

Third ownership group in seven years. When was the last time a team got passed around that quickly without involving some major scandal (e.g., John Spano)?

The moribund franchise without a fan base known as the New England Patriots saw control of the team handed off from Billy Sullivan to Victor Kiam in 1988, then to James Orthwein in 1992, then Kraft in 1994. They also almost moved to St. Louis, Hartford and rumors of Providence? and probably 74 other cities in that time as well.
 

12 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

We all know it's basically a given that sports leagues will likely be looking at expansion as a means of recouping from the COVID losses once things are back to normal.

I've only heard baseball going this route, the NHL seems set at 32, along with the NFL. Maybe MLS will add another 16 teams, but it seems only baseball is going to come out of all this forever radically changed, from teams to rules to playoffs, etc. The NHL may change a couple seats at the table, but unless they're in a way, way worse situation, I can't see any changes amounting to the cumulative changes from  around 1995-2000. The league started the new century in a radically different place than they did the decade before with relocations, expansion, rule changes,  etc.

The  cost of contracting four teams would be huge, wouldn't it? Wouldn't all the teams basically have to but the contracting teams out?

Wouldn't 'suspending operations' be more apt, letting the owners still 'hold the team' for some time without fielding a team before just selling the franchise to another billionaire or folding as a last resort? 

Is the NHL (and major sports in general) just an operation that is too big to fail or is bankruptcy and vanishing franchises a reality?

Well, things could get interesting for the NHL next season, the very real possibility of no travel between Canada and the US could make for a seven team all Canada division, with 3 eight team divisions south of the border.

CANADA:

MON, OTT, TOR, WIN, EDM, CAL, VAN

EAST:

BUF, BOS, NYI, NYR, NJ, PHI, PIT, WAS

CENTRAL?:

CAR, TB, FLA, NSH, CHI, DET, CLB, STL

WEST:

MIN, DAL, ARZ, COL, VEG, LA, ANA, SJ

Rough call for that eighth western team, sorry Wild!

The NHL  could plan to play the first half of the season in division, 42 games each team. (Canada x7 each opponent, US teams x6 each opponent).

This may buy them some time to figure out a second half of the season (unless arena dates need to be plugged in by a certain date), allowing time for covid rates to hopefully slow/drop, or just schedule another 42 games for each team in their division.

If only the KC Mavericks had such taste! They have the same owner but just got horrible sweaters.

When I saw they dropped the light blue, I kinda figured we were in store for something more along the lines of the Flyers' use of orange, black and white, but whoa, they really leaned into that grey didn't they? And all that piping... yikes.

Here's one of my recent paintings

Just curious, has anybody here ever conjured up a league using contraction? 48 teams in MLB seems pretty unreasonable, but has anybody come up with a smaller league, perhaps realigned in different ways besides putting teams in Portland, Charlotte, Nashville, etc? The once possible prospects of a three 'division' MLB set into East, Central and West seemed exciting for a short season. But what happens if baseball isn't played for two years? Can Miami survive? Cleveland? What would MLB look like with 22 teams?
I'd be curious to see what people think.

On 5/24/2020 at 12:28 PM, Dilbert said:

That flaming cow would have been awesome back in 98. Id love to see if modernized for today. It would beat the crap the Fire call a logo today by far.

Mars Attacks! Burning Cows intro

Maybe the designer was a really big fan of Mars Attacks!
 

2 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

It does mention that it's temporary; besides, Shawnee is part of the Kansas City, Kansas metropolitan area, so it's not really that big of a deal. And Kansas City, Kansas is right next to Kansas City, Missouri anyways.

I do live in KC, so I know my way around the metro area I think they're moving to Olathe when the arena they are building there will be finished, which is just another 15 minutes fown the road.

I'm not sure how handcuffed they were on the logo (due to NHL copyrights and Native American restraints), but the logo?/wordmark? is Oklahoma City Thunder level simplicity.

EDIT:
Oh, looks like they have an actual logo:

The Kansas City Scouts are officially back!

Well, not in the NHL, in the NAHL. And not actually in Kansas City, Missouri, but Shawnee, Kansas.

Okay, so the failure aspect of this entire thread is one big failjack with limited results, but here's a rebrand that cost the already successful company $35 million to roll out and another $20 million in lost sales.

The story behind it is pretty interesting as well.

I'm no familiar with a lot of the logisitics of the AHL, understand they're at 32 teams, and matching a team with an affiliate is essential now. But there's been a lot of talk about the AHL here in Kansas City, and I thought it would happen until I read this :

https://arenadigest.com/2020/02/28/should-blues-pursue-kansas-city-ahl-affiliate/

The Sprint Center seats well over 16k for hockey, was built for an NBA/NHL team, and is in the middle of downtown, the Mavericks currently play in Independence, about 10 miles west of KC and seats just under 6,000. I can't see an AHL team moving into the Sprint Center as its one of the most used and profitable arenas in the country, and annually gives about 1 million a year back to the city (KCMO paid for it after all).

I'd say moving an AHL team into Independence would not hurt, but taking over 40+ dates at the Sprint Center would most likely be a disaster.

37 minutes ago, rams80 said:

 

What part of "they need to buy an AHL franchise first" isn't registering here?

The rumor is the Mavericks get moved up to the AHL. I'm not sure how exactly that works, but Hunt Jr is all about it and St Louis needing an affiliate kinda makes the logistical pieces work.

Lamar Hunt Jr just bought the NAHL Topeka Pilots and is moving them to Kansas City.

http://www.nahl.com/news/story.cfm?id=29100

There's no way the Mavericks don't move up to the AHL now.

21 minutes ago, DNAsports said:

If there is to ever be a Kansas City XFL franchise, the Guardians name should’ve been shelved for that moment and the team should’ve been owned by Disney.

 

I missed something there. I mean Disney started his career in KC, but is there another connection? Hallmark just laid off another couple thousand people here, so I guess they won't bring an XFL team here either.

Edit:

He's from Missouri? Like St Louis is also in Missouri?

38 minutes ago, Brian in Boston said:

 

Well, "The Heart of the Commonwealth" motto's been around since October of 1831. I suspect that was a bit before your 20-year stint in Central Massachusetts. Governor Levi Lincoln of Massachusetts, who would later go on to serve as the City of Worcester's first mayor, coined the phrase. Since then, it's been used to describe both the City of Worcester and Worcester County. It's the reason the image of a heart adorns the Worcester city seal and, by extension, everything from the city flag to city street signs.    

In any event, when it comes to invoking municipal mottos and nicknames, the only folks capable of outdoing local politicos and chamber of commerce officials are sports branding professionals.  

Well, I guess I learn something every day.Gentle drinking buzz and general bias against everything Massachusetts aside, I stand corrected.

It's a better name than the Worcester Wind Fits!

2 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

 

 (Worcester is nicknamed "The Heart of the Commonwealth")

 

I don't care, I lived in central Mass for 20 years, that's really not a thing. I don't care how you pronounce 'haaaaht'.

I'm lost trying to figure out who exactly would have official XFL merch on their Christmas list.

Each new Brandiose design isn't just boring for the same tropes used over and over, but the line quality on every single design is so thick and dull. It looks like sketches I'll do with my finger in a text message using the default draw option. The word marks are usually well produced and the strongest part of each identity.  

Also, all these  logos have way more going on than their others, and it's not helping here.

4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Anyway, the team that got the worst deal was the White Sox, who were rightfully angry at being grouped with the Angels, Royals, and Pilots, instead of with their peers the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers.

I had never really thought about why the White Sox are such a bland team before, but being split from those teams damaged their club a ton.

Here's a very interesting article about the original realignment in Major League Baseball.

It's funny to see the concerns and what upset teams back when it was happening.

On 2/7/2019 at 11:27 AM, Clintau24 said:

Last night I got word that an Auburn-based Twitter account had posted some work of mine. I take a look, and they had (poorly) slapped a different logo on top of my photo. The base image comes from my site and is the first mockup photo to appear on Google under "auburn basketball court." It's actually an old court, from 2009-10, when Auburn played in the old Coliseum (note the Final Season logos).

 

Barstool is notorious for using other people's content.

https://deadspin.com/comedian-says-barstool-sports-stole-her-video-tried-to-1833048577

this is what it also reminds me of: