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  1. Because universities align themselves not just on athletic standards, but academic ones as well. To use your example, all of the SEC schools are very high-level research universities (Carnegie category R1) in addition to being very strong in athletics. Putting schools like Troy, South Alabama, and Arkansas State into the mix (M1, R2 and R2, respectively) doesn't make sense not just from a competitive standpoint on the field, but in the classroom as well.
  2. And now for Part 2 of my full-scale NCAA Division I realignment. A couple of notes before we dive right in (all conferences in alphabetical order): In Part 1, I got rid of the Big 12 and Conference USA. To take this further for the all-sport realignment, we are also getting rid of the Atlantic 10, Atlantic Sun, and Western Athletic Conferences. All three of these conferences have a pretty wide geographic spread (especially the WAC and A-Sun), and there are opportunities to create new rivalries and rekindle old ones in larger conferences. One more school not already scheduled for transition moves up from D-II in this scenario: the University of Missouri, St. Louis (joining the Horizon League) All told, 84 of the proposed 325 Division I schools change conferences (nearly a quarter of the total number of schools). Now, onto the changes! AMERICA EAST CONFERENCE Albany, Binghamton, Maine, New Hampshire, Northeastern, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, UMass-Lowell, Vermont Loses Hartford (Northeast) and UMBC (CAA), gains Northeastern (CAA) and Rhode Island (A-10). Five members (Albany, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Stony Brook) are also members of the Eastern Football Alliance, all in the Yankee Division (named after the old Yankee Conference). AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Central Florida, Charlotte, East Carolina, George Mason*, Old Dominion, South Florida, Temple, Virginia Commonwealth* Western Division: Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, Rice, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, Wichita State* *Non-football member Adds four members from C-USA (Charlotte, Old Dominion, Rice and UAB) and two non-football members from the A-10 (George Mason and Virginia Commonwealth to existing eleven-member conference. ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE Atlantic Division: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Maryland, North Carolina State, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest Coastal Division: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia Retains all fifteen conference members, adds Maryland back into the conference from the Big Ten and West Virginia from the Big 12. Notre Dame competes as an FBS independent at the same level as the Power Four conferences, maintaining a partial schedule of ACC schools. BIG EAST CONFERENCE Gavitt Division: Connecticut, George Washington, Georgetown, Massachusetts, Providence, Saint Joseph’s, Seton Hall, St. John’s, Villanova Tranghese Division: Butler, Creighton, Dayton, DePaul, Detroit Mercy, Duquesne, Marquette, Saint Louis, Xavier The Big East is the landing spot for a large share of former A-10 members (Dayton, Duquesne, George Washington, Massachusetts, Saint Joseph’s, Saint Louis) and adds one from the Horizon League (Detroit Mercy) to its lineup of eleven members. Becomes a predominantly Catholic non-football superconference in the process. Four schools (Connecticut, Duquesne, Massachusetts and Villanova) are members of the Eastern Football Alliance, with UConn and UMass in the Yankee Division and Duquesne and Villanova in the Colonial Division. Two schools (Butler and Dayton) are members of the Continental Football Alliance, both are in the Pioneer Division. Georgetown competes in the Atlantic Football Alliance (Patriot Division) for football only. BIG SKY CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Colorado Mines, Dixie State, Idaho, Idaho State, Montana, Montana State, Northern Colorado, Utah Valley*, Weber State Western Division: Cal Poly**, Central Washington, Eastern Washington, Northern Arizona, Portland State, Sacramento State, Southern Utah, UC Davis** *Non-football member **Former football-only member, now all-sport member Keeps all eleven all-sport members, makes former football-only members Cal Poly and UC Davis all-sport members, and adds two schools from the WAC (Dixie State and Utah Valley) and promotes two schools from D-II (Central Washington and Colorado School of Mines). BIG SOUTH CONFERENCE Northern Division: Campbell, Gardner-Webb, High Point, Lipscomb, Longwood, Radford, UNC-Asheville, USC-Upstate, Winthrop Southern Division: Charleston Southern, College of Charleston, Florida Gulf Coast, Jacksonville, Kennesaw State, North Alabama, North Florida, Presbyterian, Stetson Loses Hampton to the MEAC, retains all ten other member schools, adds most of the old A-Sun (Florida Gulf Coast, Jacksonville, Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, North Alabama, North Florida and Stetson) and one former CAA member (College of Charleston). Five members (Campbell, Charleston Southern, Gardner-Webb, Kennesaw State and North Alabama) are part of the Mid-South Football Alliance, all but North Alabama compete in the Southern Division (UNA is part of the Ohio Valley Division). Two members (Presbyterian and Stetson) compete in the Continental Football Alliance, both schools are in the Pioneer Division. BIG TEN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers Western Division: Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin Loses Maryland to the ACC but adds Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to its lineup of thirteen schools as a result of the Big 12’s demise. BIG WEST CONFERENCE Cal State Bakersfield, Cal State Fullerton, Cal State Northridge, California Baptist, Grand Canyon, Long Beach State, UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara Loses Cal Poly and UC Davis to the Big Sky, replaces them with California Baptist and Grand Canyon (previously of the WAC), Hawaii joins Mountain West as an all-sport member, all eight other member schools remain. COLONIAL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION Delaware, Drexel, Elon, Hofstra, James Madison, Richmond, Towson, UMBC, UNC-Wilmington, William & Mary Loses College of Charleston to the Big South and Northeastern to the America East, replaces them with Richmond (A-10) and UMBC (America East). Six members (Delaware, Elon, James Madison, Richmond, Towson and William & Mary) are also members of the Eastern Football Alliance, all in the Colonial Division. HORIZON LEAGUE Eastern Division: Bellarmine, Chicago State, Cleveland State, IUPUI, Northern Kentucky, Oakland, Purdue Fort Wayne, Wright State Western Division: Green Bay, Illinois-Chicago, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Missouri-St. Louis, Omaha, Oral Roberts, SIU-Edwardsville Loses Detroit Mercy to the Big East and Youngstown State to the MAC, retains other nine member schools, adds schools from the A-Sun (Bellarmine), Ohio Valley (SIU-Edwardsville), Summit League (Kansas City, Omaha, Oral Roberts), and WAC (Chicago State). In addition, they promote Missouri-St. Louis from D-II. IVY LEAGUE Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, Yale No changes, all eight schools are members of the Atlantic Football Alliance, comprising the Ivy Division. METRO ATLANTIC ATHLETIC CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Fairfield, Iona, Manhattan, Marist, Monmouth, Quinnipiac, Saint Peter’s Western Division: Canisius, La Salle, Niagara, Rider, Siena, St. Bonaventure Adds La Salle and St. Bonaventure (previously of the A-10) to its eleven-member lineup, effectively reuniting the Western New York Little Three (Canisius and Niagara were already conference members). Two schools (Marist and Monmouth) are members of the Continental Football Alliance, with Marist in the Pioneer Division and Monmouth in the Northeast Division. MID-AMERICAN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Akron, Buffalo, Kent State, Marshall, Miami (Ohio), Toledo, Youngstown State Western Division: Ball State, Bowling Green State, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Middle Tennessee State, Northern Illinois, Western Kentucky, Western Michigan Adds three members from the former C-USA (Marshall, Middle Tennessee State, and Western Kentucky) and Horizon League (Youngstown State) to its existing twelve-member conference. MID-EASTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE Bethune-Cookman, Coppin State*, Delaware State, Florida A&M, Hampton, Howard, Maryland-Eastern Shore*, Morgan State, Norfolk State, North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, South Carolina State Adds Hampton (Big South) back into the mix for an even twelve schools. With the exception of Coppin State and Maryland-Eastern Shore, the other ten schools are part of the HBCU Football Alliance, comprising the Mid-Eastern Division. MISSOURI VALLEY CONFERENCE Bradley, Drake, Eastern Illinois, Evansville, Illinois State, Indiana State, Loyola (Chicago), Missouri State, Southern Illinois, Valparaiso Loses Northern Iowa to the Summit League, replaces with Eastern Illinois (Ohio Valley), all nine other schools remain. Five schools (Eastern Illinois, Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri State and Southern Illinois) are members of the Gateway Football Alliance, all in the Missouri Valley Division. Two schools (Drake and Valparaiso) are members of the Continental Football Alliance, both competing in the Pioneer Division. MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Utah State, UTEP, UTSA, Wyoming Western Division: Boise State, BYU, Fresno State, Hawaii*, Nevada, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV *Former football-only member, now all-sport member Adds UTEP and UTSA from the former C-USA, BYU back into the fold from the West Coast, and New Mexico State from the WAC, promotes Hawaii to full member. All eleven existing all-sport members remain. NORTHEAST CONFERENCE Northern Division: Bryant, Central Connecticut State, Hartford, Long Island, Merrimack, Sacred Heart, St. Francis Brooklyn Southern Division: Fairleigh Dickinson, Mount St. Mary’s, NJIT, Robert Morris, Saint Francis (PA), Wagner Adds Hartford (America East) and NJIT (A-Sun) to their existing eleven-school membership. Eight schools (Bryant, Central Connecticut State, Long Island, Merrimack, Robert Morris, Sacred Heart, Saint Francis (PA) and Wagner) are also members of the Continental Football Alliance, all in the Northeast Division. OHIO VALLEY CONFERENCE Austin Peay, Belmont, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State, Morehead State, Murray State, Southeast Missouri State, Tennessee-Martin, Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech Loses SIU-Edwardsville to the Horizon League and Eastern Illinois to the Missouri Valley, all other members remain. Six schools (Austin Peay, Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State, Tennessee-Martin, Tennessee State and Tennessee Tech) are members of the Mid-South Football Alliance, all in the Ohio Valley Division. Two schools (Murray State and Southeast Missouri State) play in the Gateway Football Alliance. Morehead State competes in the Continental Football Alliance (Pioneer Division) for football only. PAC-16 CONFERENCE Mountain Division: Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Colorado, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah Pacific Division: California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington State Adds four former Big 12 schools (Baylor, TCU, Texas and Texas Tech) to its existing twelve-member conference, renaming conference to PAC-16 in the process. PATRIOT LEAGUE American, Army, Boston University, Bucknell, Colgate, Davidson, Fordham, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Lehigh, Loyola (MD), Navy Adds two former A-10 schools (Davidson and Fordham) to its existing ten-member conference. Six schools (Bucknell, Colgate, Davidson, Holy Cross, Lafayette and Lehigh) are members of the Atlantic Football Alliance, all in the Patriot Division. Army and Navy are football-only members of the American Athletic Conference (Eastern Division). Fordham competes in the Eastern Football Alliance (Yankee Division) for football only. SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt Western Division: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Texas A&M Adds Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to its existing fourteen-school membership after demise of Big 12. SOUTHERN CONFERENCE Chattanooga, The Citadel, East Tennessee State, Furman, Mercer, Samford, UNC-Greensboro*, VMI, Western Carolina, Wofford *Non-football member No changes to membership, nine members (all but UNC-Greensboro) are part of the Mid-South Football Alliance. Three schools (Chattanooga, East Tennessee State and Samford) are part of the Ohio Valley Division, the other six (The Citadel, Furman, Mercer, VMI, Western Carolina and Wofford) are part of the Southern Division. SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Arkansas Tech, Central Arkansas, Lamar, McNeese State, New Orleans*, Nicholls State, Southeastern Louisiana, Stephen F. Austin Western Division: Abilene Christian, Central Oklahoma, Houston Baptist, Incarnate Word, Sam Houston State, Tarleton State, Texas A&M-Commerce, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi*, UT-Rio Grande Valley*, West Texas A&M *Non-football member Retains all twelve existing members, adds two WAC schools (Tarleton State and UTRGV), promotes four schools from the ranks of Division II (Arkansas Tech, Central Oklahoma, Texas A&M-Commerce, West Texas A&M). All but three schools (New Orleans, Texas A&M-CC and UTRGV) compete in football. SOUTHWESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Alcorn State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Grambling State, Jackson State, Mississippi Valley State, Prairie View A&M, Southern, Texas Southern No changes to membership, all member schools are part of the HBCU Football Alliance, comprising the entire Southwestern Division. SUMMIT LEAGUE Augustana (SD), Denver*, Minnesota State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, South Dakota State, St. Thomas (MN), Western Illinois *Non-football member Loses three schools to the Horizon League (Kansas City, Omaha and Oral Roberts), adds Northern Iowa from the Missouri Valley, promotes two schools from D-II (Augustana and Minnesota State) and one from D-III (St. Thomas). Nine members (Augustana, Minnesota State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, South Dakota State, St. Thomas and Western Illinois) compete in the Gateway Football Conference, with all schools but Western Illinois competing in the Summit Division. Fun fact: seven of the nine football schools were part of the old North Central Conference at various points in their histories. SUN BELT CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Liberty, South Alabama, Troy Western Division: Arkansas State, Little Rock*, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Southern Mississippi, Texas State, UT-Arlington* *Non-football member Adds five schools from C-USA (Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Louisiana Tech, North Texas and Southern Mississippi) and one from the A-Sun (Liberty) to existing twelve-school conference. South Alabama competes in the Western Division for football only. WEST COAST CONFERENCE Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, Saint Mary’s, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Clara, Seattle Loses BYU to the Mountain West, replaces with Seattle (formerly of the WAC), creating a predominantly Catholic conference on the west coast. San Diego competes in the Continental Football Alliance as a member of the Pioneer Division.
  3. Over the past few weeks, I came up with a realignment plan for NCAA Division I that is heavier on superconferences than the current alignment. Starting with the FBS Power Five conferences, I decided to put the Big 12 out of its misery and move Maryland back to the ACC, which nets the following (relocated schools in italics): ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE Atlantic Division: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Maryland, North Carolina State, Notre Dame*, Syracuse, Wake Forest Coastal Division: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia NOTE: Notre Dame maintains independent status for football (because Notre Dame) but keeps its affiliation with the ACC BIG TEN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers Western Division: Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin PAC-16 CONFERENCE Mountain Division: Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Colorado, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah Pacific Division: California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington State SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt Western Division: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Texas A&M Among the Group of Five conferences, I decided to break up Conference USA because of the two G5 conferences that are very spread out geographically (AAC and C-USA), the AAC is the stronger conference in athletics and academics. Also, all FBS independents join conferences (BYU and New Mexico State to the Mountain West, Liberty to the Sun Belt, Army to the AAC), Connecticut and Massachusetts drop down to FCS, and Youngstown State moves up to join the Mid-American Conference: AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Army, Central Florida, Charlotte, East Carolina, Navy, Old Dominion, South Florida, Temple Western Division: Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, Rice, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB MID-AMERICAN CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Akron, Buffalo, Kent State, Marshall, Miami (OH), Ohio, Toledo, Youngstown State Western Division: Ball State, Bowling Green State, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Middle Tennessee State, Northern Illinois, Western Kentucky, Western Michigan MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Utah State, UTEP, UTSA, Wyoming Western Division: Boise State, BYU, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV SUN BELT CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Liberty, Troy Western Division: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, South Alabama, Southern Mississippi, Texas State At the FCS level, there would be two conferences that enlarge in size for all sports (Big Sky and Southland), and the other conferences would consolidate into larger "alliances" of smaller or non-football conferences. The Big South Conference would be disbanded for football in this scenario (more to come in Part 2). Among the schools that would move up from Division II: Arkansas Tech, Augustana (SD), Central Oklahoma, Central Washington, Colorado School of Mines, Dixie State, Minnesota State, Tarleton State, Texas A&M-Commerce and West Texas A&M. St. Thomas (MN) would also move up from Division III (assuming the NCAA allows them to move directly from D-III to D-!). BIG SKY CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Colorado Mines, Dixie State, Idaho, Idaho State, Montana, Montana State, Northern Colorado, Weber State Western Division: Cal Poly, Central Washington, Eastern Washington, Northern Arizona, Portland State, Sacramento State, Southern Utah, UC Davis EASTERN FOOTBALL ALLIANCE (former Colonial Athletic Association) Colonial Division: Delaware, Duquesne, Elon, James Madison, Richmond, Towson, Villanova, William & Mary Yankee Division: Albany, Connecticut, Fordham, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Stony Brook GATEWAY FOOTBALL ALLIANCE (former Missouri Valley Football Conference) Missouri Valley Division: Eastern Illinois, Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri State, Murray State, Southeast Missouri State, Southern Illinois, Western Illinois Summit Division: Augustana (SD), Minnesota State, North Dakota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, South Dakota State, St. Thomas (MN) HBCU FOOTBALL ALLIANCE Mid-Eastern Division: Bethune-Cookman, Delaware State, Florida A&M, Hampton, Howard, Morgan State, Norfolk State, North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, South Carolina State Southwestern Division: Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Alcorn State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Grambling State, Jackson State, Mississippi Valley State, Prairie View A&M, Southern, Texas Southern MID-SOUTH FOOTBALL ALLIANCE Ohio Valley Division: Austin Peay, Chattanooga, Eastern Kentucky, East Tennessee State, Jacksonville State, North Alabama, Samford, Tennessee-Martin, Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech Southern Division: Campbell, Charleston Southern, The Citadel, Furman, Gardner-Webb, Kennesaw State, Mercer, VMI, Western Carolina, Wofford SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE Eastern Division: Arkansas Tech, Central Arkansas, Lamar, McNeese State, Nicholls State, Northwestern State, Southeastern Louisiana, Stephen F. Austin Western Division: Abilene Christian, Central Oklahoma, Houston Baptist, Incarnate Word, Sam Houston State, Tarleton State, Texas A&M-Commerce, West Texas A&M ATLANTIC FOOTBALL ALLIANCE (limited/non-scholarship) Ivy Division: Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, Yale Patriot Division: Bucknell, Colgate, Davidson, Georgetown, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Lehigh CONTINENTAL FOOTBALL ALLIANCE (limited/non-scholarship) Northeast Division: Bryant, Central Connecticut State, Long Island, Merrimack, Monmouth, Robert Morris, Sacred Heart, Saint Francis (PA), Wagner Pioneer Division: Butler, Dayton, Drake, Marist, Morehead State, Presbyterian, San Diego, Stetson, Valparaiso Coming in Part 2: these conference changes within the greater context of all-sport conferences
  4. Home kit looks a bit busy, but that's my only critique. The crest and change kit are absolutely spot on, love how the pattern you have for the home shirt translates to the away shirt (so much so, that I think it stands on its own merits). Nice work!
  5. Your swinging Owgust fixes the problem that I always had with the 1970-77 Owgust: the 1970-77 one is too diagonal, yours is much more orthogonal. That alone makes this a great concept, the rest is just icing on the cake. Great work!
  6. Much better, and I think it looks different enough from the Whalers to stand on its own.
  7. Honestly, I'd get rid of the cream. This concept stands on its own merits without it.
  8. I'm curious as to how the Eagles would look with a gray background, the Seahawks with a neon green background, and the Chargers with a powder blue background. These are great, it's an idea I've been kicking around in my head for a while now, thanks for sharing this!
  9. Couple of critiques: The logos are pretty decent, the only thing I would change is the color of the circle from white to red on the logo on the left (and get rid of the thin black outlines that go with it). It would be a good nod to the Selanne/Tkachuk/Essensa era Jets teams of the first half of the 1990s. The jerseys make absolutely no sense whatsoever. There is no cohesion with colors or striping in relation to the rest of the set. Are you presenting this as a black team or a red team? I'd get rid of the BFBS jersey and stick to the red/white/blue/gray color palette of the one on the right.
  10. ''Tis the nature of compromise, nobody ends up happy with the solution ?
  11. Love the kit, but I feel the need to make a minor correction. Duluth Trading Company was started in Duluth, but is now based out of Mount Horeb, Wisconsin (corporate office) and Belleville, Wisconsin (factory). My wife does a lot of freelance work for them as a graphic designer, so I am very well familiar with the company. Aside from that, great series so far! Everything has been well done and presentation looks great!
  12. Interesting idea! If you're taking requests, I'd love to see the Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul campaign logos made into uniforms.
  13. One note about Milwaukee: The Packers are lumped in with the Milwaukee TV market as secondary to the Green Bay-Appleton market. This was done because the Packers played three regular season games a year in Milwaukee until after the 1994 season, when these games were moved to Green Bay as part of the Gold package (for the displaced Milwaukee season ticket-holders). When TV blackout rules were still in effect, they were retained for Milwaukee TV stations because of the Gold package. That and the Packers flagship radio station broadcasts out of Milwaukee instead of Green Bay. At least that's my understanding of it. Either way, I just saved you a concept
  14. This uniform is brought to you by the United Steelworkers of America Keep reaching for that rainbow!
  15. Moser316

    IHL 2017

    Saginaw Gears, as Flint was the Generals for most of their IHL existence (tied in with the fact that GM had a huge presence in their city back then)