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  1. Found yet another one. Bad News Bears in Breaking Training (1977). One of the kids wears a orange jacket that featured all the MLB logos. The film was also set in the Houston Astrodome, which at the time had team logos on their outfield wall. That Kid From Left Field (1979) with Gary Coleman of Different Strokes fame playing for the San Diego Padres.
  2. Step By Step Green Bay Packers garbage lid and Michael Jordan poster https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-marrying-dude-airdate-november-19-1993-l-r-angela-news-photo/463686774 Packers couch/pillows & Bears pillow https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-marrying-dude-airdate-november-19-1993-patrick-duffy-news-photo/463686896 One of the rooms in Full House had a San Francisco Giants pennant (can't find an image but here's Uncle Joey in a Red Wings jersey) Danny in a Giants jacket The intro to Dallas always featured a shot of the Cowboys endzone of Texas Stadium Semi-Pro (2008) - The Flint Tropics are fictional but the film featured real ABA teams, like the San Antonio Spurs NHL's Anaheim Ducks were named after the 1992 movie The Mighty Ducks but the movies ultimately adopted the real life team's uniforms starting with D2: the Mighty Ducks Born in East LA (1987) - Cheech Marin in a Dodgers cap Eddie (1996) - Whoopi Goldberg coaches the NY Knicks in this film Not exactly scripted but a fan in an Edmonton Oilers jersey disrupts Eddie Guerrero/Rob Van Dam WWE match in 2002
  3. Wait, there's more! Brewster's Millions (1985) Richard Pryor in a Cubs jersey Little Giants (1994) pee-wee football between the Giants and Cowboys Does Reality shows count? Survivor's "Boston Rob" and his Red Sox cap Also, WWE's Paul Heyman occasionally wore a Yankees cap.
  4. There were a ton of baseball-themed movies, especially in the 90s. There's plenty of jersey/logo shots. The Slugger's Wife (1985) - Atlanta Braves Bull Durham (1988) - Durham Bulls (minor league) Naked Gun (1988) California Angels/Seattle Mariners (not a baseball-themed movie but baseball played a key role in the final act) Field of Dreams (1989) - 1919 Chicago White Sox Major League (1989) - Cleveland Indians Mr. Baseball (1992) - Dragons uniforms based on the Los Angeles Dodgers Rookie of the Year (1993) - Chicago Cubs Little Big League (1994) - Minnesota Twins Major League II (1994) - Cleveland Indians The Scout (1994) - New York Yankees Angels in the Outfield (1994) - California Angels The Fan (1996) - San Francisco Giants Major League III: Back to the Minors (1998) - Minnesota Twins For The Love Of the Game (1999) - Detroit Tigers The Rookie (2002) - Tampa Bay Rays Mr. 3000 (2004) - Milwaukee Brewers Fever Pitch (2005) - Boston Red Sox Historical-based baseball movies Eight Men Out (1988) The Babe (1992) Cobb (1994) 61* (2001) Moneyball (2011) 42 (2013) basketball themed-movies Space Jam (1996) - one scene features the Nerdluck aliens stealing the basketball powers of the Knicks and Suns. Towards the end is archived footage of the Bulls vs the Magic when MJ returns. Forget Paris (1996) - Billy Crystal as an NBA referee with cameos from various NBA players like Charles Barkley Like Mike (2002) - although this film uses real NBA teams, the main team is fictional (based on the Clippers) Juwanna Man (2002) - the main character played for the Charlotte Hornets before disguising himself as a woman and join the WNBA. can't find an image though. Football-themed movies Ace Ventura: Pet Dectective (1994) - Miami Dolphins The Garbage Picking, Field Goal Kicking Philadelphia Phenomenon (1998 tv movie starring Tony Danza) Philadelphia Eagles Historical-based NFL movies Brian's Song (1970) - Chicago Bears Invincible (2006) - Philadelphia Eagles Hockey-themed movies Sudden Death (1995) - Pittsburgh Penguins (already posted a picture above) The Love Guru (2008) - Toronto Maple Leafs
  5. the intro from Perfect Strangers from its 3rd season to its last featured Balki wearing a Cubs jersey Cheers Ted Danson in a Red Sox uniform Home Improvement Tim Allen sometimes wore Detroit Lions t-shirts. Entourage the character Turtle often wore Yankees caps According To Jim Jim Beluishi sporting Chicago sport-teams gear (Cubs, Bears, etc) Running Scared (1986) - Billy Crystal in a Cubs jersey City Slickers (1991) - Billy Crystal in a Mets cap Do the Right Thing (1989) - Spike Lee in a Brooklyn Dodgers jersey There was a brief shot of the Blue Jays logo being burned in the 1995 film "Canadian Bacon" Can't find clips/images though . Does animation count? Homer Simpson wearing an XFL shirt Mark McGwire on the Simpsons with his Cardinals uniform The Broncos in South Park Family Guy's Peter Griffin as a New England Patriot (no logo though)
  6. Seinfeld George Constanza worked for the Yankees can't find an image of Jerry wearing Mets gear on the actual show so here's Newman King of Queens Kevin James' character occasionally wore either Mets or Jets gear on the show highway to heaven magnum p.i. (original 80s version with Tom Selleck sporting a Tigers cap) Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986 movie) Sudden Death (1995 movie) Happy Gilmore (1996 movie) ) Does wrestling count? John Cena during his "Doctor of Thuganomics" era often wore the jersey of the local city's arena https://duckduckgo.com/?q=john+cena+doctor+of+thuganomics&atb=v48-1&iax=images&ia=images infamous wrestling figure Vince Russo during the dying days of WCW often wore Yankees gear. He also wore a football Giants jersey when he "won" the WCW championship, often considered one of the worst moments in WCW. finally, the Brooklyn Brawler
  7. The Bad MLB - The Padres 2010s uniforms. Simplistic navy blue snorefest. ZZZZZZZZ - Teams wearing alternate uniforms too much in the playoffs (see Cubs/Indians Game 7 World Series and the recent Nationals’ superstition of wearing their midnight blue jerseys in every game of the playoffs). Though this isn’t a 2010s trend as this has been going on for years such as the Marlins wearing their black jerseys in the 2003 playoffs & World Series and the Indians always wearing their navy tops on the road (see game 6 of 1995 WS, game 7 of 1997 WS) - the bowdlerization of Chief Wahoo. Indians needed a rebrand anyway (new logo, uniforms, even colors) but I don’t buy MLB’s sudden “we were always offended by this logo” stance. The Tribe missed a golden opportunity for a fresh new look after retiring Wahoo. The bland “Block C” look is a downgrade from what they had before. - The Diamondbacks dark gray road uniforms. I get “Thinking Outside the Box”, but this was poorly executed. Didn’t help that the black numbers/scripts almost blended in with the uniform. - Nike logos on the uniforms - Players Weekend 2019. Monochrome black vs Monochrome white. So horrible it makes 1999’s “Turn Ahead the Clock” look good in comparison. - Mother’s Day/Father’s Day/4th of July/Memorial Day jerseys. Just add a patch to celebrate the holidays. - Twins recent new uniforms. They had it right the first time. - Marlins 2012 rebrand – black/orange doesn’t work for them and they failed to embrace sky blue. Besides, we already have the Giants and Orioles already have those colors. And that Maroon 5 like logo. Ugh! Their 2019 rebrand, while not perfect, is an upgrade to this mess. - Some teams using letters / cap logos as primary logos (see Pirates, Rockies, Padres, Brewers before their rebrand) - Rangers recent rebrand. From jumping on the powder blue bandwagon to wearing red caps to a blue heavy uniform. NFL - One-Helmet Policy. I understand Oldschoolvikings’ argument detailing the good parts of this policy, which prevents teams from going Oregon Ducks and protecting the players’ safety. I still think there should be exceptions for throwbacks, where the throwback helmet is ONLY worn with the throwback jersey and CANNOT be mix and match with the teams’ other uniforms. Who doesn’t want to see Pat Patriot, The Bucs’ Creamisles, Broncos’ orange crush-era helmets, Eagles in Kelly green and so on again for one game. - Color Rush. From the Jaguars all-mustard, Bucs all-red, Bills/Jets colorblindness fiasco. Also, false advertising where the other team is wearing all-white 50% of time . All around disaster. - The Buccaneers 2014 rebrand. From alarm-clock numbers to 2000s-era over-piping. There was nothing wrong with what they had before! - Browns rebrand – another case of “Don’t Fix What’s Not Broken”. From hard to read orange numbers on the brown uniforms to unnecessary wordmarks on the uniforms. At least the Browns are finally getting rid of these. - Titans 2018 rebrand. They don’t look good in navy helmets at all! Plus, the number font is garbage. HUGE downgrade from what they had before. - Jets 2018 BFBS uniform. The rest of Jets uniforms aren’t too bad actually. The shade of green is nice and is a modernization of the 80s/90s (often underrated) look. But the black monochrome uniforms are unnecessary. - Due to the NFL’s rules on changing uniforms, the Rams are stuck between wearing LA throwbacks at home and St. Louis-era navy blue/metallic gold on the road - Jaguars 2013 rebrand – the previous set wasn’t that good but this set was so bad with the two-tone helmet. The current rebrand is an upgrade but the Jaguars still don’t look as good as they did in the 90s and 00s. - Teams wearing socks that are the same color as the pants. Mono-white has become a problem in recent years. - Leotard look is still a problem (looking at you Saints, Ravens). - 49ers horrific all-black monochrome look. Talk about BFBS! - Coaches wearing black when it isn’t a major color. Rex Ryan, when he was the Jets head coach, is guilty of this as he always wore a black sweater vest under a white shirt and never wore green. NHL - Islanders 2011 BFBS jersey - Lightning rebrand. Okay, this isn’t too bad but they look too much like the Maple Leafs. - Oilers wearing orange as their primary uniform. Great as an alternate jersey, but this team should always be wearing blue as the primary color. NBA - changing from traditional home/away colors for City/Statement/yadda yadda yadda uniforms. I can’t get used to the Bulls always wearing red at the United Center! Could the NBA at least do what the NHL did in 2003 and make dark color jerseys the home jersey and white/light color jerseys the away jerseys since many teams insist on wearing alternate jerseys/throwbacks. - many team wearing colors that are not part of their color scheme (throwbacks are exempt) in their city/statement uniforms. Many of them are ugly as a result. - Clippers rebrand. They needed to refresh their uniforms anyway and put that slimeball Donald Sterling and the Lakers-ripoff logo they had for years in the past. But this look is so poorly executed excited from BFBS on the uniforms to an ugly logo. Make the city or statement jersey (the light blue/brunt orange throwback they had for one season) the basis for a new look and start from there. - Sleeves on the Uniforms. Enough said. - Lazy “Latin” based uniforms still continue where the team puts “LOS” in front of their name and doesn’t properly translate their name to Spanish. It should be “LOS SOLS” not “LOS SUNS”. - BFBS (looking at you Lakers, Clippers, Hornets, Bucks, Cavaliers, etc) - Teams wearing specialty uniforms during the playoffs. See game 7 NBA finals of Cavaliers/Warriors from 2016. - Hawks adding volt instead of yellow (gold) in their rebrand. Overall - Ads on the jerseys being more prevalent - BFBS for some teams - Increase of Roundel logos
  8. Agree with much of the earlier comments. The Good MLB - The Blue Jays 2012 rebrand – gone is the BFBS monstrosities and back is a modern take of the classic 1989-1996 look. This may be the best sports-related rebrand of all time. Please stay this way, Toronto. - Brewers bringing back the MB Glove logo full-time - Padres announcing they’re going brown for 2020 - Twins 2010 rebrand upon moving to Target Field (unfortunately, their next rebrand in the decade is a downgrade) - Nationals wearing Expos throwbacks. Prior to that, the Nats rarely acknowledged their Montreal roots. - Red Sox bringing back the 1990-2008 road uniforms in 2014. - Mets dropping black entirely form their color scheme in 2013. - Astros going back to navy blue/orange (Still can’t get used to them as an AL team, even though they have won a World Series as one). - Athletics bringing a kelly green alternate. They should change the shade of green from the rest of their uniforms from hunter to kelly. NFL - Bills 2011 rebrand – the navy/royal/red/nickel garbage is no more and replaced with a modernized 1970s look. I do miss the red helmets though but they wouldn’t fit with this look. - Vikings 2013 rebrand – Most Nike uniforms are frowned upon but they did a good job fixing up the Vikings. Huge improvement on what they had before. - Rams returning to LA and the NFL letting them wearing the classic royal blue/yellow throwbacks. - Chargers finally making power blue uniforms the primary home uniforms (too bad they’re not in San Diego no more). - Saints Color-Rush – one of the few good “Color Rush” uniforms (much of them are garbage). If only they wore gold socks or black socks with them. - Giants Color-Rush – They never win wearing these but they look sharp and should keep these as an alternate jersey but with blue socks. - Dolphins 70s throwbacks – make them full time! - Falcons 60s/90s throwback hybrid NHL - Stars 2013 rebrand – return of green as primary color and huge improvement on what they had before - Winnipeg Jets return - Carolina Hurricanes wearing Hartford Whaler throwbacks - Predators 2011 rebrand – Traditionally, gold (yellow) isn’t a good choice for a dark colored jersey, but somehow the Predators have made it work and made the color their own instead of being another blue team. The simplicity of their logo is also a plus although more simple designs don’t always work especially for expansion/relocated-era teams (see Lightning, Hurricanes, Coyotes) - Oilers going back fully to their classic look in 2011 - Ducks wearing a Mighty Ducks throwback in 2018/19 - Penguins swapping vegas gold for athletic gold (yellow) and going back to their classic look. NBA - Charlotte Hornets return! No more Bobcats! The logos are good though the uniforms, while not awful, could have been better (I’ve seen better concepts at the Bring Back the Buzz website and on this forum.). The only downside is the more complex Cleveland Brown-like revisionist history. - Jazz 2010 rebrand. The previous set was boring and I like the retro-inspired look. The only changes I would make is change navy blue to purple and brighten the shade of green. Oh, add the 90s Mountain look as a throwback. Overall: - Some teams returning to classic-based looks - teams more willing to add brighter colors
  9. NBA Part 2 (since 2010s) 2010/11 - The Cavaliers featured a specialty jersey that is based on their 1994-2003 color scheme. It was only worn this season. - The Timberwolves tweak their uniforms and add a black 3rd jersey. Green is eliminated from the color scheme. 2011/12 - The Wizards have new uniforms (which are based on the 70s/80s uniforms when they were the Bullets). The traditional red/white/blue color scheme returns and the slate blue/gold/black colors are eliminated. - The Kings add a black 3rd jersey. 2012/13 – The New Jersey Nets moved to Brooklyn and changed their colors from red/navy blue to black/white. - The Knicks have new uniforms and drop black from their color scheme. 2013/14 - The Los Angeles Lakers add a black 3rd jersey called “Hollywood Nights” - The Timberwolves 3rd black jersey is now sleeved - The Suns have new uniforms and black replaces gray as the 3rd color. The home whites and orange (sleeved) alternate jerseys have black numbers and lacks purple. The team also had a black 3rd jersey that reads “LOS SUNS” (Latin Nights). 2014/15 - The Golden State Warriors add a black sleeved 3rd jersey. This is BFBS because black is nowhere to be found in their regular uniforms (home whites and road blues). - The Lakers’ black 3rd jersey is now sleeved. - The Suns black “LOS SUNS” sleeved jersey is dropped (replaced with a purple non-sleeved version). But add a gray sleeved jersey which featured black script/numbers w/orange trim. - The Kings have new uniforms but retain their black 3rd jersey. 2015/16 – The Charlotte Hornets (formerly Bobcats) introduced a sleeved black jersey that says “BUZZ CITY”. This is BFBS as black is not one of the team’s colors. The jersey also lacks purple. - The Cleveland Cavaliers added a black sleeved 3rd jersey - The Milwaukee Bucks have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from green/red to green/cream/black/blue. The team featured a black 3rd jersey. - The Raptors have new uniforms and retain their red/black/silver color scheme. The team also added a “Drake Night” alternate black jersey which features gold instead of red or silver. - the Hawks have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from navy blue/red to red/volt/dark gray. The shade of gray the Hawks use almost looks black. - The Houston Rockets add a gray sleeved jersey with black accents. The team’s regular colors are red/white/gold (yellow). - The Los Angeles Clippers have new uniforms, new (ugly) logo, and added black to their color scheme. The team also added a black 3rd jersey. Reeks with BFBS. 2016/17 - the Warriors add a “Chinese New Year’s” black jersey with red replacing royal blue. It was only worn this season. - the Rockets add a black 3rd jersey. - The Timberwolves’ “Christmas” jersey is black with green script/numbers. - The Suns have a new black 3rd jersey which feature very little purple or orange. - The Kings have new uniforms. Black is dropped from the color scheme and replaced with gray. 2017/18 – The Celtics replace the green/black 3rd jersey with a black jersey with green numbers/script - The Hornets change their black “BUZZ CITY’ uniforms (now with black numbers/script w/white outlines) - the Cavaliers black 3rd jersey is no lingered sleeved. - The Raptors have new uniforms which almost eliminates silver from the color scheme. The “Drake Nights” black jersey changes to a “NORTH” jersey. - The Dallas Mavericks have a black alternate jersey that says “DAL” with royal blue numbers and green accents. This jersey is only worn this season. - The Warriors have new uniforms and include a black 3rd jersey calls “THE TOWN”. The jersey lacks royal blue. - The Rockets have new uniforms, which also include a black 3rd jersey - The Clippers have new uniforms but maintain their red/blue/black color scheme. Includes a black 3rd jersey. - The Lakers add a black 3rd jersey called “Black Mamba”, as a tribute to Kobe Bryant. Purple is almost absent from the uniform. Was only worn this season. - The Grizzlies add a black sleeved 3rd jersey which was only worn this season. They also had a white jersey with black script/numbers and lacked their primary colors. - the Timberwolves have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from slate blue/black/silver/green to navy blue/slate blue/lime green/gray. - The Kings add a black 3rd jersey which almost features no purple. 2018/19 – The Hornets changed their black “BUZZ CITY” uniforms again (this time with teal numbers/script) - The Bulls "CITY" jersey (based on the city of Chicago flag) is now black. It is only worn this season. - The Lakers have new uniforms. The purple jersey has black on the sides. The team also has another purple jersey called the “Lore Series”. With black pinstripes. The numbers and script are also black. - The Timberwovles’ “City” jersey is black w/purple numbers/script. The uniform is a tribute to R&B/Pop icon Prince (a Minnesota native) whose favorite color was purple. - The Suns have new uniforms, which include a black 3rd jersey with “PHX”. 2019/20 – the Bucks changed their black 3rd jersey. - The Hornets have a black “Statement” jersey with “CHA” in white, teal numbers, and no purple. - the Clippers add a specialty jersey which is white with black script/numbers. The font is very similar to the font used in the video game “Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas”. Royal blue and red are nowhere to found on the uniform. - the Oklahoma City Thunder added a black 3rd jersey but with gold and red accents instead of light blue and orange. All Star Games Historically the NBA jerseys have always been the patriotic red/white/blue colors seen on the US Flag. Some exceptions like in the late 90s/early 00s where teams wore their regular team uniforms. The 2018 all-star game uniforms have a black/white color scheme. Overall, it's not until the mid 2010s that the NBA started to have a "BFBS" problem although its more about teams selling jerseys with colors that are not present in their current color schemes. NBA uniforms that qualify for BFBS: - Raptors “Drake” uniforms. Black only works as an accent color. Bring back the purple! - Clippers 2015-present rebrand. - Lakers “Hollywood Nights” and “Black Mamba” uniforms - Cavaliers black 3rd jerseys. - Celtics 3rd black jersey. - Warriors black 3rd jersey (color isn’t found in their other jerseys) - Hornets' "BUZZ CITY" jerseys - Rockets recent rebrands. - Bucks 3rd black jersey. In review, what teams qualify or NOT qualify as BFBS? Fire away.
  10. Finally, here’s the NBA (also included ABA): Original sources: https://nbajerseydatabase.tumblr.com/teamarchive http://www.trucolor.net/portfolio/national-basketball-association-franchise-records-1946-1947-through-present/ ABA (1967-1976) In 1967, the Denver Rockets (now the Nuggets) debuted with an orange/black color scheme with orange as the primary color. In 1971, the team changed to “Laker” colors (purple/yellow) By the time of the NBA/ABA merger in 1976, the Nuggets franchise sported a more familiar blue/gold (yellow) color scheme. In 1970, the now-defunct Anaheim Amigos had the same color scheme as the Denver franchise. The color scheme changed to light blue/red when they moved to Los Angeles to become the stars. In 1970. The now-defunct Miami Floridians had a black/orange/magenta color scheme in 1970. The team folded in 1972 but the Miami Heat have worn their uniforms as ABA throwbacks from time to time. In 1974/74, the now-defunct Virginia Squires had a black/orange/red color scheme but changed their colors to blue/orange in what would be their final season. In 1973, the Dallas Chaparrals of the ABA relocated to San Antonio to become the Spurs and changed their color scheme from red/blue to black/silver and have maintain those colors since as the ABA and NBA merged in 1976. The Spurs don’t qualify as BFBS. NBA (pre-1988 expansion boom) In 1966, the Chicago Bulls debuted with a red/black color scheme, which remains unchanged to this day and DON’T qualify as BFBS. In 1971, the Buffalo Braves (now known as the Los Angeles Clippers) had an orange/black color scheme. In the 1973/74 season, the team changed uniforms and changed to a Columbia Blue/White scheme with a black accent (maybe it was navy blue instead?). In 1978/79, the franchise relocated to San Diego to become the Clippers and black is replaced with brunt orange as the secondary color. In the 1977/78 season, the Portland Trail Blazers wear a black jersey for the first time as they had new uniforms. Previously, the team had always worn red jerseys on the road with a black as a secondary color since debuting in the 1970/71 season. Except for the 1979/80 to 1984/85 seasons when they went back to red jerseys, the Blazers have worn black jerseys on the road and do NOT qualify for BFBS. NBA since 1988 up to the end of the 2000s. Entering the 1988/89 season, just three teams had black in their color scheme: Chicago Bulls, Portland Trail Blazers, and San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs and Blazers had black as the primary color and the Bulls had black as a secondary color. These three teams do NOT qualify for BFBS. Of the four expansion teams that debuted as the 80s came to a close, two of them (Miami Heat and Orlando Magic) featured black as a primary color. It is not until the mid 1990s when black started to slowly be more popular as a color in the NBA, during a period where non-traditional sports colors like teal and purple were all the rage. Even then, the NBA didn't have a serious "BFBS" problem. For some team, like the Kings and the Timberwolves, black actually works as part of their color schemes. 1988/89 - The Miami Heat are one of NBA’s two expansion teams that season. Their color scheme has always been black/red and don’t qualify for BFBS 1989/90 - The Orlando Magic are one of NBA’s two expansion teams that season. Their color scheme has always been black/royal blue/silver and don’t qualify for BFBS. 1994/95 – The Atlanta Hawks add a black 3rd color jersey. Black was added as an accent color when the team changed their uniforms in the 1992/93 season. This particular jersey was only worn this season. - The Cleveland Cavaliers have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from royal blue/orange to black/light blue/orange with black as the dominate color. - The Phoenix Suns add a black 3rd jersey. The color is only used as accent on their home whites and road purples. - The Sacramento Kings have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from royal blue/red to purple/black/silver. Black is the new primary road color. The team also wore a 3rd jersey which is ½ black and ½ purple. 1995/96 - The NBA has two new expansion teams: The Toronto Raptors and Vancouver Grizzlies - The Raptors color scheme is purple/red with black and silver used as accent colors. - The Grizzlies color scheme is turquoise/black/red. - The Chicago Bulls, which always had a red/black color scheme, wear a black 3rd jersey for the first time. The jersey itself would see several changes as the years past from saying “BULLS” to “CHICAGO” and back again. The Bulls black jerseys don’t qualify as BFBS as the Bulls have historically been a red/black team. - The New York Knicks add a 3rd jersey that is blue with black accents. - The Hawks change uniforms and the new road jersey is a black/red gradient. Black remains as an accent color. 1996/97 - The Cavaliers tweaked their uniforms but the color scheme remained the same. - The Detroit Pistons changed uniforms and change the colors from royal blue/red to greenish-teal/red/black/orange. Black was only used as an accent color. - The Minnesota Timberwolves have new uniforms and changed their colors from royal blue/green to slate blue/green/black. Black is only used as an accent color. 1997/98 - The Knicks changed uniforms and add black accents to the home whites. The blue 3rd jersey w/black accents is now the primary road uniform. Since the Knicks didn’t go overboard with black (unlike the Mets, another NY pro sports team with a blue/orange color scheme), such as adding a black jersey, they don’t qualify for BFBS. - The Philadelphia 76ers changed uniforms and changed their color scheme from red/royal blue to black/gold/blue/red. Black is now the primary road color. - The Washington Bullets renames themselves as the Wizards. The color scheme changed from red/royal blue to slate blue/gold/black. Black is only used as an accent color. - The Grizzlies add a black 3rd jersey. - The Timberwolves add a black 3rd jersey. 1998/99 - the Kings ½ black and ½ purple 3rd jersey is replaced with a purple jersey. - The Utah Jazz add a black 3rd jersey with purple and copper accents but lacks the light blue seen on the regular home whites and road purples. 1999/00 - The Cavaliers changed uniforms but retained their black/light blue/orange color scheme. - The Raptors changed uniforms but the color scheme of purple/red/black/silver remains the same. - The Hawks have new uniforms and black remains an accent color. Not BFBS. 2000/01 - The Grizzlies have new uniforms, which are based on the black 3rd jersey (now the primary road uniform). Black is now the primary color with turquoise demoted as the secondary color. - The Suns have new uniforms. Black is replaced with gray as an accent color. 2001/02 - The Pistons changed uniforms and dropped their teal/red/black color scheme in favor to a return to royal blue/red - The Grizzlies relocate from Vancouver to Memphis but the uniforms/colors are mostly the same with “VANCOUVER” and “GRIZZLIES” replace with “MEMPHIS”. 2002/03 - The Kings have new uniforms but retain their color scheme. However, black is demoted as secondary color and purple is now the primary color as seen on the road jerseys. 2003/04 - The Cavaliers have new uniforms and changed their colors from black/light blue/orange to wine red/gold/navy blue. - The Raptors have a red 3rd jersey with black and silver accents and lacks purple. 2004/05 – The expansion Charlotte Bobcats (now Hornets 2.0) featured a black as an accent color to their orange/navy blue color scheme. This does not qualitfy for BFSB. - The Grizzlies have new uniforms and change their color scheme from black/turquoise/red to navy blue/light blue/gold. - The Jazz have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from purple/light blue/black/copper to navy blue/light blue. 2005/06 – the Boston Celtics add a green 3rd jersey that features black numbers/script/accents 2006/07 - The Raptors changed uniforms with the red 3rd jersey now the primary road uniform. Black is promoted as a 2nd color and purple is eliminated from the color scheme. - The Wizards add a gold 3rd jersey which feature black shorts. Slate Blue is absent from this uniform. 2007/08 - The Sixers have new uniforms but color scheme remains the same. - The Hawks have new uniforms and drop red/yellow/black for navy blue/red. 2008/09 - The Raptors add a black 3rd jersey. - The Timberwolves changed their uniforms but retain their slate blue/black/green color scheme. - The Kings have new uniforms but maintain their color scheme. 2009/10 - The Sixers have new uniforms and return to their traditional colors of red and royal blue. Black is dropped from the color scheme. - The Wizards drop the gold 3rd jersey with black shorts
  11. MLB Pre-1990s Prior to the 1990s, only 3 teams wore black as a color, the San Francisco Giants, Baltimore Orioles, and Pittsburgh Pirates. The Chicago White Sox had a black/red color scheme throughout much of the 1950s and 1960s before going through an endless string of new uniforms/color schemes/logos that would last though 1990. When I was younger, I always though that navy/midnight blue teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers, Angels, Indians, Braves and Astros wore black instead of navy (Strangely, I though the Twins wore purple instead of navy. Maybe there was some purple haze inside the Metrodome but I digress). To be crystal clear, the Orioles, Giants, and Pirates don’t qualify for BFBS. 1990/1991 - The White Sox were in the last season at the original Comiskey Park in 1990. They had a standard navy blue/red color scheme. During the middle of the season, the team introduced new uniforms that they would be wearing when they opened up New Comiskey Park/US Cellular/Guaranteed Rate Field for the 1991 season. They were based on the 1950s/1960s look but with a black/silver color scheme. The uniforms were so well-received that the White Sox wore them for the final weeks of the 1990 season. The new road uniforms were also worn at the end of that season. In 1991, the White Sox moved to their new park and also introduced a black alternate jersey. Unlike most teams that later added black in the late 90s onward, the White Sox look sharp in black/silver and considering their pre-1990 uniform history, they have settled on this look (with a few tweaks here and there) and don't qualify for BFBS. 1993 - MLB introduced two new teams: the Colorado Rockies and Florida (now Miami) Marlins, both of which featured black in their respective color schemes. The Rockies featured a black/purple color scheme while the Marlins had a teal/black/silver color scheme. - The Rockies wore a black alternate jersey for some home games but were dropped the following season. 1996 The Marlins begin to slowly embrace black over teal, scrapping the teal caps. 1998 MLB introduced two new teams: Tampa Bay (then-Devil) Rays and Arizona Diamondbacks, both of which featured black in their color schemes. - The Rays color scheme is black/purple/rainbow gradient. The team also wore a black alternate jersey - The Diamondbacks color scheme was purple/turquoise/black/copper. While the home whites lacked black accents, the road grays were worn with black caps. The team also had a black alternate jersey, which was only worn during road games. - In one of the most notable moments of BFBS, The New York Mets added black to their color scheme. They wore black caps with blue bill with both their home whites and road grays, both which now featured black drop shadows. A black 3rd jersey was also introduced. Although their traditional pinstriped uniforms were still part of their catalog, the team rarely worn them. 1999 - The Cincinnati Reds add black to their uniforms. They seemed to go back and forth wearing red undershirts and black undershirts with their home whites. The road grays were always worn with black undershirts and caps. - The Marlins work a black jersey during the infamous “Turn Ahead the Clock” promotion. - The Mets wore a black “Mercury Mets” jersey during the infamous “Turn Ahead the Clock” promotion, which lacked the teams traditional colors of royal blue and orange. The added a black skyline version of their long-time primary logo which better reflects the team’s growing use of the color. 2000 - The Houston Astros had new uniforms and a new color scheme, replacing navy blue/metallic gold with black/brick red/sand. Black was the dominate color and the team also featured two black 3rd jerseys. “ASTROS” worn at home games and “HOUSTON” worn at road games. - The Oakland Athletics introduced a black 3rd jersey which featured hunter green numbers/script with white trim and lacked gold (yellow). They were only worn in the 2000 season and worn for both home and road games. - The Mets added another black 3rd jersey with “NEW YORK” which was worn a road games. 2001 - The Rays have new uniform and new colors (hunter green/black/blue). Black was only used as an accent color and cap color. Black caps were worn with the road grays but switched to green in 2005. Black caps were also worn with the sleeveless alternate uniform. - The Texas Rangers sometimes wore a blue cap w/black bill with their blue alternate jersey. - The Diamondbacks tweaked their uniforms. Their home whites are purple/turquoise and lacked the black and copper accents. Their road grays, on the other hand, had black/purple/copper and almost lacked the turquoise accents. The black alternate jerseys were also tweaks. 2002 - The Kansas City Royals had new uniforms and added black to their color scheme. While black was used only as accent on the home whites, black is more prominent in the road grays as the team wore black caps, socks, and undershirts. The royal blue alternate uniforms lacked black accents. - The Astros scrapped their black 3rd jerseys. Black would still be used as an accent color and on the caps. 2003 - The Royals added a black alternate uniform, which was only worn on road games. - The Marlins further de-emphasized teal in their latest uniform tweaks. The team also added a black alternate jersey. 2004 - The Toronto Blue Jays completely overhauled their uniforms, replacing the classic royal blue/red color scheme in favor of black/steel blue/graphite gray color scheme. Black is the dominate color and the team also featured a black alternate jersey. This often-despised look is often cited as BFBS. - The Rangers scrap the black-billed cap. 2005 - The Rays tweaked their uniforms making blue the 2nd color and dropped the black caps from their uniforms. - The Rockies introduce a black sleeveless uniform. 2006 - The Royals replaced the black “ROYALS” uniform with a black “KANSAS CITY” uniform. This uniform was rarely worn and dropped entirely the following season as the team removed all traces of black on their home whites and road grays. 2007 - The Diamondbacks had new uniforms. Gone was the black/purple/turquoise/copper color scheme and in was Sedona red/black/sand with Seonda Red as the dominant color. - The Reds have new uniforms which reduced black to an accent color. However, the black-billed red caps are still worn with the road grays. 2008 - The Athletics have a new black 3rd jersey with white numbers/script with green trim. This jersey was only worn in home games. - The Rays have new uniforms that dropped the hunter green/black/blue color scheme in favor of navy blue/Columbia blue/gold. 2009 - The Mets scrapped the black 3rd jersey with “NEW YORK” script. However, they started to wear the black 3rd Jersey worn only at home games (with the “METS” script) on the road instead. 2011 - The Athletics scrap the black 3rd jersey 2012 - The Blue Jays come to their senses and drop black/graphite from their color scheme. Their new uniforms are a modernization of the 1989-1996 uniforms, in which the team won 2 World Series titles (1992-1993). - the Marlins have new uniforms. Black is kept as the primary color but teal and silver are replaced with orange and sky blue as accent colors. 2013 - Upon moving to the AL, the Astros introduced new uniforms and returned to their original colors navy blue and orange. - The Mets finally removed black from their uniforms. 2016 - The Diamondbacks have new uniforms and added turquoise to their color scheme of Sedona Red/Black/Sand. 2019 - The Marlins have new uniforms. Black is retained as the primary color but orange and sky blue are replaced with sky blue and red as accent colors. - During the Players Weekend, each road team wore all black (caps, jerseys, pants, and socks) with the numbers and scrips being black with gray trim. The home teams did the opposite and wore all white. Both uniforms devoid of each team’s traditional colors. Another example. MLB overall as BFBS. 2002-2005 Royals, 2004-2011 Blue Jays (probably the worst offender), 1999-2006 Reds, 1998-2012 Mets, A’s 2000 & 2008-2010 black alternates, Astros 2000-2012 (though their look isn’t as bad as some of the other BFBS looks). I did not list whenever the Pirates, Orioles, or Giants added a black alternate jersey as those teams don’t count as BFBS. Tomorrow, I’ll post the NBA.
  12. NFL Compared to the other major sports leagues, the NFL doesn’t have a major “BFBS” problem as virtually every team that has black looks either great or acceptable in it. Pre-1990s When the 1960s began, only one NFL team wore black (the Pittsburgh Steelers). In the upstart AFL, only the Oakland Raiders had black in their color scheme (originally they had gold but would switch to the famed silver and black scheme two seasons later). In 1964, the then-St. Louis Cardinals added black as an accent color to their away white uniforms and would wear the pants with their red jerseys (which lacked black accents) the following season. By the end of the 60s, two more teams, the Atlanta Falcons (joined in 1966) and New Orleans Saints (joined in 1967) would be featured wearing black jerseys. In the AFL, the Cincinnati Bengals (joined in 1968) introduced a black/orange color scheme. None of these qualify for BFBS. 1990 The Atlanta Falcons, which had been a red team w/black accents throughout much of the 1970s and 1980s, had new uniforms which were black with silver and red accents. Their head coach at the time, Jerry Glanville, was a big fan of the color black. Nonetheless, this does NOT qualify as BFBS as the Falcons had worn black uniforms in the past. - The New York Jets added black as an accent color and does not count as BFBS. This look would last through the 1997 season. 1995 The NFL added two new teams: The Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars, both of which featured black in their respective color schemes. The Panthers’ primary color jersey is black with light blue and silver as secondary colors. The Jaguars, however, used black as a secondary color and used teal as a the primary color of their jerseys. Gold was also used as a 3rd color. 1996 - Art Modell relocated the Cleveland Browns (which would return as an expansion team in 1999) to Baltimore (which lost the Colts to Indianapolis over a decade earlier) and renamed the team the Ravens. The Ravens primary jersey color is purple with black (and a hint of gold) used as a secondary color. - The Philadelphia Eagles changed their color scheme from kelly green/silver to midnight green/black/charcoal gray. Black was only used as an accent color and a black alternate jersey wouldn’t show up until years later as the NFL didn’t have alternate uniforms back then. It should be noted that the Eagles had been using black as an accent color as early as 1985. - The San Francisco 49ers had new uniforms and tweaked their shade of red and gold. Black is added as an 3rd accent color only. Look would last through the 2008 season. 1997 - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers changed from orange “Creamisle” uniforms to a red/pewter color scheme with black and orange used as accent colors. Does NOT qualify as BFBS as black is only used as an accent color and as a sock color and nothing more. 2002 - The NFL starts letting teams wear 3rd jerseys - The Jaguars added a black monochrome uniform (black jersey & pants) - The Lions have new uniforms and added black as an accent color. 2003 - The Falcons had new uniforms. The primary home jersey is red and the 3rd jersey is black. They don’t qualify for BFBS. - The Eagles add a black alternate jersey (which was worn with either white pants or green pants) 2004 - The Bengals have new uniforms but the color scheme remains the same and they don’t qualify for BFBS. - the numbers on the Jaguars road white uniforms changed from teal to black - The Ravens introduce an all-black monochrome uniform. 2005 - The Lions add a black 3rd jersey. 2008 - the Ravens start to wear black pants with the white road jersey for some games, which they still do today. - The Lions replace the black 3rd jersey with a blue 1950s throwback jersey. Black would still be used as an accent color. 2009 - The Falcons replace their black 3rd jersey with 1960s throwbacks - The Jaguars have new uniforms. Although they wear teal home jerseys, the away whites have more emphasis on black. 2010 - The Cardinals add a black 3rd jersey 2012 - The Panthers updated their logo but the logos/colors/uniforms remained mostly the same. - The Jaguars add a black jersey as the new primary home uniform and demotes the teal jersey to alternate status. 2013 - The Falcons drop the throwbacks due to the one-helmet policy - The Jaguars have new uniforms with black as the primary color and teal and gold as secondary colors. The helmet changed from all black to ½ black and ½ gold. - The Vikings have new uniforms and their helmet facemasks are black despite not having the color anywhere else on their uniforms. 2014 - the Buccaneers rebrand uses significantly less black accents than the previous set. They also now wear red socks or pewter socks. Doesn’t qualify as BFBS. 2015 - In one of the worse cases of BFBS, the 49ers introduce an all black uniform with red numbers/stripes and no gold or white anywhere on the uniform. This made the numbers/name hard to read from afar. 2016 - The Falcons introduce a 3rd jersey which is a cross between their 1960s look and their 1990s look. Does NOT qualify as BFBS 2017 - The Cardinals “Color Rush” black alternate uniform is introduced. The different between this jersey and the other black jersey is this jersey has red numbers/names instead of white. - The Lions eliminate black altogether from their color scheme with their new uniforms (black was used as an accent color in their 2009 rebrand) 2018 - The Jaguars have new uniforms but retain their color scheme of black/teal/gold although gold is not used as much. 2019 - the Jets have new uniforms, which include an all-black monochrome uniform. Again, the NFL didn’t have an ever-growing list of teams adding black like the NHL and MLB did. However, the NFL did have a “Navy For Navy’s Sake” period in the late 90s and early 2000s with teams like the Broncos, Titans (formerly Oilers), Rams, Patriots, Bills, and Seahawks all darkening their shade of blue or changing their shade from a previously brighter shade. (the Chargers and Cowboys did it a decade earlier, but navy blue wasn’t as common on NFL jerseys back then. Royal Blue was very common and the Bears were the only team with a navy blue jersey prior to 1981) The uniforms I would include as BFBS in the NFL include the Lions mid-2000s 3rd jersey during the ill-fated Matt Millen era, the Eagles black alternates (black only works as an accent for them), the Cardinals black alternates and Color Rush, the current Jets all-black monochromes, and definitely the 49ers all-black monochrome set (easily one of the worst uniforms of all-time). Next up, MLB.
  13. Forgot to add an overview of the NHL. Teams like the Bruins and Penguins should always be in black with a few others like the Blackhawks and Flyers using the color as a secondary color. Flames should only use black as an accent color and increase the amount of gold (yellow). I do agree that the Ducks looked better in their original colors. Maybe combine them with orange? Expansion/Relocated teams are tricky to deal with though black does work for some teams like the Sharks. I would definitely put the Islanders 3rd jerseys from 2011-14 and 2015-17 and the Stars 2007-2013 period as BFBS category (Stars always looked better with green as the primary color and black as the secondary color).
  14. Ark, I do agree with much of your statement, especially with the Reds and Blue Jays. I am trying to make a point that black wasn't as common in sports team colors as it is now as was the case of Penguins changing their colors (I never knew they wore navy blue/light blue until they started wearing throwbacks to that era) I clearly state the Kings 1988 rebrand (as well as the White Sox 1991 rebrand which I will get to when I discuss baseball) as the beginning of black being more popular in sports from expansion teams to existing teams adding the color black. Maybe I should rename the thread the history of the color black in sports logo/identities and how it unintentionally led to the black for blacks sake phase for some teams. UPDATE: I changed the title of the thread. Hope this doesn't lead to any more confusion.
  15. 2010s Entering the new decade, 6 teams (Ducks, Bruins, Stars, Kings, Penguins, and Lightning) wore black as their primary dark colored jersey. (Flames, Hurricanes, Blackhawks, Avalanche, Devils, Senators, Flyers, Coyotes, and Sharks) featured black as a 2nd or 3rd color with 5 of them (Blackhawks, Senators, Flyers, Coyotes, and Sharks) wearing a black 3rd jerseys. Two other teams already wearing black as a primary jersey (Bruins, and Kings) would wear a black 3rd jersey. 2010/11 - The Ducks would add a new black 3rd jersey which puts more emphasis on orange than bronze. - The Flyers eliminated their black 3rd jersey 2011/12 - The Lightning have new uniforms which put a lot more emphasis on blue than black. Originally, the uniforms had no black at all but fans wanted black maintained to the color scheme, in addition to the team now looking too much like the Maple Leafs. The blue 3rd jersey, which had been worn since the 2008/09 season, would be retained. - The Blackhawks drop their black 3rd jersey - The Kings would make the black 3rd jersey (with silver instead of purple) the primary dark color jersey while demoting the previous primary black jersey (with purple) as an alternate jersey. - The Islanders added a much-hated black 3rd jersey - The Senators added a retro-inspired black 3rd jersey, which replaced the previous black 3rd jersey. 2012/13 -No major changes regarding black 2013/14 - The Kings eliminate the black 3rd jersey that featured purple. They also introduce new white uniforms that better match the black/silver dark color jersey. 2014/15 - The Lightning added a black 3rd jersey with “BOLTS”, replacing the blue 3rd jersey. - The now-renamed Arizona Coyotes drop their black 3rd jersey. As a result, black is mostly eliminated from their color scheme. - The Ducks have new uniforms but the color scheme of black/orange/bronze remains unchanged. - The Stars have new uniforms. The color scheme changed from black/gold/green to green/black with a hit of silver. - The Penguins added a black throwback based on what the team wore in the 1980s and early 90s (the Mario Lemieux era), which replaced the 70s Navy Blue throwbacks the team had worn prior. The black/yellow (gold) color scheme would be so popular that they would ultimately replace the black/vegas gold color scheme. - the Islanders replaced the black 3rd jersey with another blue jersey. 2015/16 - The Islanders added a black 3rd jersey which lacked their primary colors (dark blue and orange) as a likely nod to their NBA roommates, The Brooklyn Nets (which featured a simple black/white color scheme) - The Coyotes have new uniforms which featured more black than the previous uniforms but still retained dark red as the primary color 2016/17 - The Penguins would make the throwback look permanent, dropping Vegas gold for athletic gold (yellow). 2017/18 - 3rd jerseys are dropped this season. As a result, The Hurricanes, Islanders, Senators, and Sharks don’t wear a black jersey. - The (Las) Vegas Golden Knights are introduced as the NHL’s newest team. They feature a dark gray/gold/black/red color scheme. Although gray is the team’s primary color, the color of their shorts is black. 2018/19 - 3rd jerseys return again - The Coyotes added a throwback based on what team wore during the first year in Phoenix - The Hurricanes added a black 3rd jersey. More black is added to their primary red jersey, which previously featured less black. - The Flyers added a black 3rd jersey, which was previously worn at the 2017 Stadium Series against the Penguins. - The Lightning added a black 3rd jersey which lacked blue and instead has gray (silver) gradients. - the Sharks added a black 3rd jersey 2019/20 - The Bruins added a black 3rd jersey, which is based on what the team wore in the 1940s. As of 2020, 4 teams (Ducks, Bruins, Kings, and Penguins) wear black as a primary dark color jersey with the Bruins being the only one to wear a black 3rd jersey. 4 teams (Coyotes, Flyers, Sharks, and Lightning) feature a black 3rd jersey. 7 teams (Flames, Blackhawks, Avalanche, Stars, Devils, Senators, and Golden Knights) feature black in their color scheme but don’t wear a black jersey. Next up, The NFL.
  16. 2000s Entering the new millennium, six teams (Bruins, Sabers, Kings, Penguins, Coyotes, and Lightning) wore black as their primary dark color jersey. Ten teams (Flames, Hurricanes, Blackhawks, Avalanche, Stars, Devils, Senators, Flyers, Sharks, and Capitals) featured black either as a 2nd or 3rd color with four of the teams (Flames, Blackhawks, Flyers, and Capitals) wearing an alternate black jersey. 2000-01 - The Senators introduced a new black alternate uniform as a 3rd jersey. - The Capitals make their black 3rd jersey the new primary dark color jersey and the slate blue jersey would be dropped. 2001/02 - The Flames make their black 3rd jersey the primary dark color jersey and dropped the red jersey. - The Flyers make their black 3rd jersey the primary dark color jersey and dropped the orange jersey. - The Sharks added a black 3rd jersey - The Penguins added a black 3rd jersey which featured the “Skating Penguin” logo but with vegas gold instead of athletic gold (yellow), which the team would eventually adopt fully. 2002/03 - The Penguins have new uniforms, changing their color scheme from black/yellow to black/vegas gold. The Skating Penguin logo fully returns and replaces the Robo-Penguin. 2003/04 - The Ducks add a black 3rd jersey. - The Stars added a black 3rd jersey, the much-hated “Mooterus” jersey. - The Flames demoted their black jersey as a 3rd jersey and introduced a new red jersey which would be their primary dark color jersey. - The Coyotes have new uniforms and dropped black from their new color scheme in favor of a dark shade of red. - The NHL now makes the dark color jerseys the home jersey and the white jerseys the road jerseys. 2004/05 NO SEASON DUE TO STRIKE 2005/06 No major changes regarding the color black 2006/07 - The Sabres have new uniforms which changed the color scheme from black/red/silver to navy blue/yellow. However, the new logo (nicknamed the “Buffaslug”) would be much maligned by many fans and the classic logo (before the black/red rebrand from 1996) would be reintroduced as a 3rd jersey and ultimately the primary jersey. - The Flames drop the black jersey but the color remains a secondary color. - The Bruins added a black 3rd jersey, which replaced the yellow "Winnie the Pooh" jerseys. 2007/08 - The Ducks have new uniforms and a new color scheme, dropping purple (eggplant)/green (Jade)/black/silver for black/bronze/orange color scheme - The Reebok Edge uniforms debut this season. 3rd jersey uniforms are dropped for this season. As a result, the Senators no longer wear a black jersey. - The Lightnings' new uniforms have more emphasis on black than their previous set, which featured more blue. - The Stars have new uniforms. The black jerseys have noticeably less green than the white jersey - The Capitals have new uniforms which exchange the black/slate blue/gold color scheme in favor of a red/navy blue color scheme 2008/09 - 3rd jerseys are reintroduced - The Bruins added a black 3rd jersey They would also introduce black socks, which would ultimately replace the yellow (gold) socks the team had been known for. - The Blackhawks black 3rd jersey returns - The Kings added a black 3rd jersey with silver instead of purple, likely as a nod to the Wayne Gretzky-era uniforms. - The Senators added a black 3rd jersey that says "SENS" - The Sharks added a black 3rd jersey - The Hurricanes added a black 3rd jersey. The shorts worn with the jersey are also black as the team normally wore red shorts. - The Coyotes added a black 3rd jersey 2009/10 - The Blackhawks replaced their black 3rd Jersey with a retro-inspired black jersey, which had been worn at the Winter Classic at Wrigley Field against the Red Wings in the 2008/09 season. - The Flyers would make their orange throwbacks (Based on their 70s look) their new primary dark color jersey while demoting the black jerseys as an alternate jersey.
  17. 1990s Entering the new decade, four NHL teams had black as their dark colored jersey (Bruins, Penguins, Canucks, and Kings). three others (Blackhawks, Flyers, and North Stars) had black as a secondary color). The Canucks further tweaked their uniforms as they switched their light colored jersey from yellow to white while black was retained as the dark colored jersey. 1991/92 - The San Jose Sharks become the NHL’s newest team and featured a teal/black/silver color scheme with teal as the primary color. - The North Stars get new uniforms and changed their dark color jersey from green to black. - The Blackhawks added a black throwback jersey which would only be worn during this season. 1992/93 - The New Jersey Devils changed their color scheme from red/green to red/black. Red was retained as the dark colored jersey. - The NHL introduced two new teams: the Ottawa Senators and Tampa Bay Lightning, both of which wore black as their dark colored jersey. - The Senators had a black/red color scheme (with a hint of gold) while the Lightning had a black/blue/silver color scheme - Despite their Stanley Cup success prior to the season, the Penguins get new uniforms (Changing from the Skating Penguin logo to the “Robo-Penguin” logo) but retain their color scheme. 1993/94 - The North Stars relocated from Minnesota to Dallas (dropping the “North” part of their name) but retained their uniforms and color scheme. 1994/95 - The Calgary Flames have new uniforms and added black to their color scheme. The color of their shorts changed from red to black 1995/96 - The Quebec Nordiques relocated to Denver to become the Colorado Avalanche. The color scheme changed from light blue/red to burgundy/steel blue/black. Although black is the 3rd color the shorts the team wears are black instead of burgundy or blue. - The Washington Capitals have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from red/royal blue to slate blue/black/gold. The color of the team’s new shorts are black. 1996/97 - The original Winnipeg Jets relocated to Phoenix to become the Coyotes. The franchise’s color scheme changed from royal blue/red to black/dark red/green/sand with black as the primary color for the dark colored jersey. - The Buffalo Sabres have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from royal blue/yellow to black/red/silver with black as the primary color. - The Blackhawks add a black 3rd jersey. - The Penguins add a black 3rd jersey that featured the “Robo-Penguin” logo 1997/98 - The Hartford Whalers relocated to Raleigh, North Carolina and rebranded as the Carolina Hurricanes. The color scheme changed from green/navy blue/silver to red/black/silver with red as the dark color jersey. - The Canucks have new uniforms, dropping the black/yellow/red-orange color scheme in favor of navy/slate blue/silver/maroon, which would last throughout the 2006/07 season before the team returned to their original blue/green color scheme. - The Flyers added a black 3rd jersey. - The Capitals added a black 3rd jersey. - The Penguins make their 3rd jersey (The “Robo-Penguin” one) as their primary dark color jersey, replacing the “PITTSBURGH” jersey. - The Anaheim Ducks (then the Mighty Ducks) change the color of their pants from purple to black. 1998/99 - The Kings have new uniforms and added purple to their color scheme. Black remains the dark color jersey’s primary color. - The Flames add a black 3rd color 1999/2000 - The Senators make their red 3rd jersey (introduced in the 1997/98 season) their primary dark color jersey and dropping the black jersey. - the Stars dropped their black uniforms and made their green “star-shaped” 3rd jersey (introduced in the 1997/98 season) as the new primary dark color jersey. - The Ducks' pants color reverted back to purple.
  18. Everyone known what the term “Black For Black’s Sake’s” is regarding sports logos and uniforms. Paul Lukas, founder of the website “Uni-Watch” and former ESPN writer, is credited for coining the term. Teams with no prior history of having black in their color scheme either adding black to their color scheme or overhauling their identify altogether with a strong emphasis on black. Many expansion teams of the 1990s were likely to add feature black in their identities. But when did the fascination with black began? It depends on the league. I’ll only focus on the four major sports (NHL, NFL, MLB, and NBA). If anyone wants to mention minor league teams, college teams (football and basketball), the CFL, and soccer teams (MLS, Premiere League, etc) down the line, that’s fine. I'll start with the NHL NHL I’ll pinpoint to the Los Angeles Kings’ 1988 rebrand (switching from Laker colors to Raider colors), combined with trading for Wayne Gretzky, as the beginning of the increase of the color black in NHL (and in all of sports). As a result, the Kings would soon become one of the more popular teams in the NHL and play a key role in the NHL’s expansion into other California cities and in the Southern USA (much to the chargin to some Canadian/Northern US traditionalists). Unlike most teams that changed to black from the late 80s onward, the Kings are one of the few teams that actually look good in black. Pre-1990s Of the original 6 teams, only the Boston Bruins wore black as a major color with yellow (athletic gold) as the secondary color. The Chicago Blackhawks have black as a secondary color as red is their primary color. When the NHL expanded in 1968, the Philadelphia Flyers introduced an orange/black color scheme with orange as the primary color. For example, the lineup of NHL team uniforms during the 1975/1976 season. 1976/77 – California Golden Seals relocated to Cleveland to become the Barons. The franchise changed their color scheme from tealish-green/yellow to dark red/black. 1978/79 – The Barons folded and merged with the Minnesota North Stars. - The Vancouver Canucks have new uniforms and changed their color scheme from blue/green to black/yellow/orange. 1979/80 - Inspired by then-recent champion success of the other Pittsburgh teams (Steelers and Pirates), The Pittsburgh Penguins changed their uniforms during the middle of the season. The color scheme changed from navy blue/light blue to black/yellow. The Bruins objected to the Penguins’ color scheme, but the NHL allowed the Penguins to change their colors. 1980/81 - The Penguins’ first full season in their new color scheme. 1981/82 - The Minnesota North Stars add black as a 3rd color to their green/yellow color scheme 1985/86 - The Canucks changed their uniforms (toned down from the ugly “V” uniforms) but retain their color scheme. The uniforms would be further toned down exchanging yellow jerseys for white in 1989. 1988/89 - The Los Angeles Kings changed their logo and uniforms from “Laker” (purple and yellow) colors to “Raider” colors (black and silver). - The North Stars change the color of their shorts from green to black.
  19. Forgot to add this one in my very long post. NFL Cardinals - Change facemask from gray to either white or red (gray facemasks only works for traditional-bases uniforms, not modern-based uniforms, unless gray is actually part of the color scheme)
  20. Lastly the NBA. All Teams - No Sleeves on Jerseys (though they stopped doing this a few years ago) - go back to basics (white/light colors at home; dark colors on the road; alternative is to go the opposite route since many alternate uniforms are dark colors) Bulls – no changes needed Pistons – regular home whites and road blues are fine but the “Motor City” ones…not so much (make the alternate jersey red) Bucks – would replace black with red Cavaliers – the home whites and road wine red are fine but find a better navy blue alternate (the one with the “C” logo) Pacers – don’t like any of their uniforms as they have had better looks in the past. Make the uniforms based on the 2018/19 gray uniforms but only with navy/yellow/white color scheme Knicks – No changes need Nets – have no idea how what to tweak. Maybe the 2015-2017 “Stars and Stripes” look? - A black/red/blue color scheme with the current template? I know the Sixers tried that during the Allen Iverson era. I’m stumped as I miss the New Jersey-era uniforms. Sixers – Make the red jersey (but with “PHILA” matching the “SIXERS” script) the primary; Blue jersey as an alternate - Put “Sixers” on the white (home) jersey Celtics – home whites and road greens are fine but scrap the black uniforms. - Make another green jersey w/gold trim or even a gold (NOT Athletic Gold/Yellow) alternate jersey? Raptors – Go back to the purple/red color scheme since two other teams have red/black (Bulls and Blazers though Rockets and Hawks also have red/black in their respective color schemes). - No other team has the “Drake” color scheme (black/vegas gold) but the Raptors look better in their original colors. Maybe the Pelicans could adopt the that color scheme instead of being another navy blue team. Wizards – Keep them as they are for now as I have no idea what to tweak Heat – Do like the colors and uniforms as they are but wouldn’t mind if they swapped them with the “Miami Vice”-inspired colors (one of the very few intriguing “Statement/City/Blah Blah Blah” uniforms) while keeping the template of the current uniforms. Magenta as primary color, Black as secondary color and light blue as 3rd color. - Also keep the ABA throwbacks as a 3rd color either with their current color scheme (black/dark red/yellow) or the “Miami Vice” colors Magic – regular uniforms (home whites, road blues, and alternate black) are fine as they are. Hawks – drop volt for athletic gold (yellow) - put “Hawks” on the home uniform. Make red jersey primary but “ATL” is now put on black jersey and “Atlanta” is now on red jersey. Hornets – add pinstripes on all jerseys - teal jersey as primary and purple jersey as alternate - scrap the black uniforms Pelicans – Replace navy with black to better connect the team with their NFL counterparts (Saints) - current template is fine but I am conflicted on whether or not to keep the Maudi Gras alternates since I would want the Jazz to return as a Green/Purple/Yellow team. Mavericks – Replace royal blue with Kelly green but keep navy blue as dominate color Rockets – Go back to the red/yellow color scheme and replace black with navy (since the Hawks would be red/yellow/black) but only use it sporadically as a 3rd color. Spurs – Scrap the Camouflage uniforms - put “SAN ANTONIO” on the alternate gray jersey Grizzlies – The shade of powder blue they use is kinda drab (compared to the shade the Nuggets used to have). Uniform template is fine though. Go back to the Vancouver-era color scheme? Timberwolves – Not feeling the Seahawk-like color scheme; Go back to the Slate Blue/Green/Black color scheme (Kevin Garnett-era); Primary logo is good though and would keep it. Thunder – Team needs as complete overhaul (they still have that ugly logo!) Franchise should still be in Seattle as the Supersonics. - Ok, back to the main topic. Put “City” below the number in the “Oklahoma City” uniform. Can’t think anything else that DOESN’T require a major overhaul. Nuggets – Replace red with powder blue and make powder blue the primary color with gold the secondary color and navy as a 3rd color. Jazz – Replace navy with purple - brighten the shade of green Blazers – home white and road black are fine but change the color font and numbers on the red jersey from black to white w/black trim; - add white and silver diagonal stripes on the red jersey. Suns – regular uniforms are fine as they but make the “Los Suns” jerseys orange and make them say “Los Sols” (If your gonna use Spanish, use it correctly); - Bring back the Barkley-era uniforms as a throwback. Lakers – Remove the black panels from the purple road jersey; home yellow and white alternate are fine though. Clippers – Another team that needs a major overhaul (ugly primary logo which makes me miss the Laker rip-off logo they had before, BFBS alternate jersey). - Okay, use the 2017/2018 powder blue alternate uniform as a base and go from there. Kings – Put “SACRAMENTO” on the purple jersey instead of just “SAC” OR put “SAC-TOWN” on the jersey; - replace silver with powder blue Warriors – Scrap the black uniforms since they don’t fit the other uniforms color scheme; - other uniforms (home white, road blue, and alternate yellow) are fine as they are. Don’t know what I would tweak. OK, I'll go away now.
  21. Next up, the NHL Blackhawks – Bring back the black alternate; no other changes needed Avalanche – change the color of shorts from black to blue Stars – No changes need although it would be nice to bring back athletic gold (yellow) if possible. Current set is MUCH better than the previous set (with the basketball-like script and the lack of green) Wild – add a red jersey based on the previous alternate green uniform as a new alternate. Current uniforms need no changes though. Predators – change white jersey numbers from navy to gold (yellow) w/navy trim Blues – no changes needed Jets – no changes needed (can’t think of any tweaks, maybe make the lighter shade of blue the primary color and navy as the secondary color?) Ducks – Make orange jersey primary since the Kings also wear black jerseys - alternative would be is to keep the current template but add the “Mighty Ducks” colors (green/eggplant) Coyotes – have no idea what to tweak. Sorry. Flames – change the shorts colors from black to red; alternative is to make throwbacks primary Oilers – Bring back the old blue jersey - demote orange to secondary - change shade of blue back to royal Kings – add a purple alternate? Tough call choosing to keep black/silver or to add purple alongside black/silver. Thus, keep the existing uniforms as they are. Sharks – add stripes to the bottom of the jerseys - replace orange with silver as the 3rd color Canucks – Make the alternate jersey green (switch spots with blue) further making more distinct from the regular blue uniforms - regular home blues and road whites need no further changes (change already occurred when they dropped “VANCOUVER” from the jerseys) Golden Knights – no changes need since they’re still fairly new Bruins – no changes needed Sabres – replace navy with royal (they’re actually doing this for the 2020/21 season though) Red Wings – No changes needed Panthers – have no idea how to tweak the current look. - Add 1993-2007 throwbacks (either the red jersey or the navy jersey) Canadiens – no changes needed Senators – flip color scheme from red/black to black/red to differ from Devils and Hurricanes. - Make alternate jersey primary. - Add gold as a 3rd color such as adding patterns similar to the 2000s alternate uniform. Lightning - brighten the shade of blue - add black and silver as secondary colors to differ from the Maple Leafs. One way to do this is to change color of shorts from blue to black Maple Leafs – no changes needed Hurricanes – have no idea what I would tweak. With so many red/black teams in the NHL (most of them in the East) maybe the Canes could bring back the Whalers color scheme (green/navy) but their uniforms are based on the Hurricane warning flag, which is red/black. Plus this thread isn’t about overhauls thus I’ll leave them as they are. Blue Jackets – make the alternate the primary but with red as the secondary color instead of light blue Devils – add stripes to the bottom of the uniforms - 80s red/green throwbacks as an alternate uniform Islanders – change alternate uniform color to orange. - home blues and road whites need no further changes Rangers – no changes needed on the regular uniforms but bring back the Heritage jersey as a 3rd jersey. Flyers – no changes needed Penguins – no changes needed (the one change they needed already happened; changing from vegas gold to athletic gold (yellow)) Capitals – not sure what I would tweak (maybe a template similar to the throwback look but with the modern logo?) - maybe add an alternate based on the 1995-2007 look but with the modern colors?
  22. Next up, the NFL Bears – no changes needed Packers – no changes needed Vikings – just change the facemask from black to purple - bring back the 60s throwbacks as an alternate Lions – scrap the silver/gray alternates - wear silver socks with the blue pants Falcons – fix the pipings on the sleeves and pants - better yet, make the alternate black throwbacks as the primary and start there although the helmets can be changed to red Panthers – wear light blue socks with the black pants - wear silver pants with the road white jersey to be consistent with the silver helmet - alternative is to drop silver and make the helmet either white or light blue (the logo would get lost in a black helmet), probably light blue since no team currently has a light blue helmet. Saints – add stripes to the black pants - wear gold socks with the black pants - alternative is to make the color rush (white jersey with gold numbers w/black trim) look the primary and add a black jersey and even a gold jersey as an alternate. Buccaneers - Unfortunately, I can’t choose “Bring back the 1997-2013 uniforms” as an option since this is about tweaks and not total overhauls - Have no idea how to tweak the current monstrosities apart from dropping the alarm clock-like numbers and changing the piping on the pants. Cowboys – stick with one shade of blue and one shade of silver on all uniforms; uniform templates should remain the same though. - change the silver-green home pants to more bluish silver tint (similar to what they had in the 70s) - change the thin stripes on the home (white) jersey from black to silver. (how is black on their jersey?) Giants – Home jersey needs no changes, but they need to add some blue to the red-heavy road jerseys. I know they won 2 Super Bowls in those uniforms but the team’s nickname is BIG BLUE, not BIG RED! - Bring back the 2000-2004 road look (Such an underrated look which had red numbers but with enough blue to add balance) - Alternative is to make the color rush 80s/90s white jersey with the current “NY” helmet as the new road white jersey. Won’t happen since they never win when they wore them. - also add the blue 80s/90s home (blue) uniforms as an alternate (replacing the Color Rush white uniform) Eagles – Keep uniform template but bring back Kelly green; darken the midnight green to replace black; - alternative is to add a Kelly green throwback (problem is the one-helmet rule but the dark green helmet/light green jersey might create a vibe similar to the Giants and Rams wearing navy helmets with their royal blue jerseys in the 80s and 90s) Redskins – No changes needed (although maybe bring back the Florida St-esqe throwbacks they wore in 2002 as an alternate) Cardinals – fix all that piping, especially on the road (white) jersey that has a heavy red yoke - scrap the Color Rush black jersey (with red numbers) - add the Arizona flag on the sleeves. Rams – make the white road jerseys match up better with the throwbacks; - scrap the navy blue pants - for their upcoming rebrand, go all the way with royal blue/athletic gold (yellow) as navy/white is boring 49ers – add third stripe on the jerseys - keep the 1994 alternates as a throwbacks but wear red socks with them, not white - never wear the BFBS monstrosities ever again! Seahawks – change the shade of green from lime to Kelly - add green to the pipings of the gray pants - lose the “Wolf Gray” alternates; - won’t happen but drop the monochrome look and wear gray pants with the navy jerseys Ravens – wear white socks with the black pants - add stripes to the black pants - brighten the shade of purple just a bit - never wear gold pants again. Bengals – lose the white side panels on the home (black) jersey - lose the orange yoke on the away (white) jersey - always wear orange socks with the uniforms - reduce the size of the drop shadow on the numbers - Bring back the Bengal head as the primary logo over the “B” logo. Browns – invert the drop shadow numbers (from orange w/white drop shadow to white w/orange drop shadow on the brown jersey and from orange w/brown drop shadow to brown w/orange drop shadow) - drop “BROWNS” on the pants - better yet just revert back to what they had before but again this is about tweaks, not overhauls. Steelers - no changes need (I know a return to the block numbers would be great but I’ve grown used to the italic number font and would be fine either direction) Texans – wear red socks with the navy pants; - make red jersey primary? Colts – no changes needed Jaguars – add stripes to the pants (preferably something like the pants from any season they wore between 1995 and 2008); add teal trim to black numbers on road (white) jersey; add black trim on the white numbers on the teal jersey; add teal trim on the white numbers on black jersey - find to a way to add gold as a 3rd color - Make Teal Jerseys primary and the Black jerseys the alternate uniform Titans - another uniform atrocity that I can’t figure out how to tweak without going for an overhaul - Make the light blue jersey primary as navy blue is drab and overused (ironically, I say this as a Bears fan and only certain teams can pull off Navy and the Titans aren't one of them) - Titans should had went with light blue helmets or kept the white ones (going back to their old look or even the Oilers is not an option since this is tweaks and not overhauls) Bills – bring back the red helmets (although the white helmets are fine, I’m just more used to them wearing red ones) - wear white or red socks with the blue pants - jerseys themselves need no changes Dolphins – wear white socks with the aqua pants - change facemask from white to aqua - add an orange alternate jersey; - alternative is to bring back the throwbacks full-time Patriots – lose the side panels on the road (white) jerseys - add silver or red stripes to the home socks - change the stripes on the road pants to Red/Silver/Red - alternative is to make the navy color rush the primary (now worn with silver pants) and make the road whites match the color rush jersey. Jets – Scrap the black pants - Wear the black jersey only with green or white pants - wear white sock with the green pants - Had they kept the previous look, I would had like to seen them change the shade of green from Hunter to Kelly. Broncos – Change the color of socks from navy to orange - change facemask from navy to orange - change numbers on road (white) jersey) from navy w/orange trim to orange w/navy trim Chiefs – one very minor tweak: add gold (yellow) trim on the logo on the helmet. Jerseys themselves need no changes. Chargers – change the shade of blue on the road (white) jersey from navy to powder blue - add either powder blue or gold pants - maybe darken the shade of gold to differ from the Rams - Not uniform-related but move back to San Diego as LA belongs to the Rams (who should have never left to St. Louis to begin with). Raiders – No changes Need (though they should had stayed in Oakland; I would had been ok if they went back to LA as there are probably more Raider fans there than Charger fans)
  23. Great topic. I agree with much of the tweaks already suggested. Dividing my post into four parts based on each major sport. MLB All Teams – put Nike logo on the sleeves. Cubs - change logo on blue jersey to the primary (basically a modernized version of the 80s road blue tops) - blue w/red trims on the numbers and “CHICAGO” script on the road grays would be nice (though I do like the red numbers on the Cubs’ grays for some strange reason) - home jersey needs no changes whatsoever. Cardinals - put “ST. LOUIS” on the road gray jersey - always wear navy caps with the gray jersey (another strange uniform quirk that I like even though ideally, they should be wearing red caps all the time); alternative is to wear a navy cap w/red bill for road games. - home jersey needs no changes whatsoever. Reds - Get rid of the black-billed cap - trim the black entirely and just go red/white (maybe gray as a 3rd color only used for trimming) Brewers - They already overhauled and is overall better than their previous look as they needed a change. - Though I would had preferred royal blue over navy, I’m okay with navy. - I would have put the cursive “Milwaukee” script seen on the navy alternate and put them on the road grays. - Although the new pinstriped alternates aren’t bad, I would had kept the throwbacks the team has been wearing since 2006 but make them NNOB. Pirates - What they have now is fine but maybe add a Gold (yellow) cap w/black bill like their early 70s look as an alternate cap - Bring back the 60s sleeveless uniforms as an alternate/throwback - Bring back either the 70s/80s primary logo OR the primary 80s/90s logo as the basis for a new primary logo; demote the “P” logo as secondary and add a black trim Braves - No changes need on the regular uniforms. (Current navy alternate is a major upgrade over the previous one that lacked red) - However, add numbers on the bottom of the script in the Mother’s Day/Father’s Day/4th of July/Memorial Day specialty uniforms similar to the late 60s/early 70s throwbacks. Phillies – keep the current template as it is but change the color scheme from red/royal to maroon/powder blue - alternative is to darken shade of red (but not Maroon) and brighten shade of blue. Nationals – red stays as the dominant color but change the shade of blue from midnight blue to a lighter shade of navy blue. Doesn't help that the Nats’ shade of navy blue almost looks black, especially at night. I would have gone with royal blue but the Phillies already have red/royal blue covered and both teams are in the same division. - Make the “Nationals” script uniform the primary home uniform. Mets – no changes needed (the big change already occurred in 2013 when they dropped black entirely) Marlins – change light blue to teal - Make Light Blue/Teal the dominate color; black as secondary and red-orange as 3rd color used for trimming. - The current look, while not perfect, is much better than the orange/black garbage with the Maroon 5 logo they had before Dodgers – scrap the alternate gray “Dodgers” uniform – add blue alternate with “Dodgers” script which can be worn for both home and road games – home and road “Los Angeles” script need no changes (although I would add white trim to the road grays (similar to the Tommy Lasorda-era road uniforms) but that would look too similar to the Royals’ road grays) Giants – lose some the piping on the road grays (reverting back to the 2000s road set) - make “SF” logo on black jersey cream w/orange trim (don’t like the black-on-black look) - home jerseys need no changes however Padres – new 2020 brown/yellow look is 1000x much better than the navy blue snorefest they been wearing for the past few years. - However, I would lose the pinstripes on the road set. - Add the 1998 home uniforms as a throwback (their 1991-2003 navy/orange set wasn’t bad at all actually). - Make the Swigin’ Flair logo the primary logo. Rockies – add more purple on the home pinstripes - lose the sleeveless black alternate jersey and replace them with a sleeved black jersey. Diamondbacks - The tweaks they actually did are an improvement over what they had before (those dark gray road uniforms were just awful! I could barely see the numbers and name on the jerseys!) - They still need to choose between dark red and turquoise (I prefer the dark red with the current set, though I would like to see them go back to their original colors, but not all of them. Just purple/black/turquoise); - Lose “D’Backs” on the home uniforms and just go with the “A” logo. White Sox – Go back to the original look of the road grays (the “Diamond Sox” logo on the sleeve and the thicker pants piping that match the sleeves of the road uniform); - change the trim on the black alternate uniforms white with black AND white trim to white w/silver trim - bring the 50s/60s throwbacks as an alternate, replacing the 80s “Winning Ugly” uniforms. Tigers – change back to the other Old English D on the home whites (the two different “D’s” were another quick that I didn’t mid) - lose the white trim on the road grays and simply them as navy numbers w/orange trim - add an navy alternate jersey (inverse of the classic home set; navy with white names/numbers similar to the Padres’ old navy alternate) and another navy alternate for the road set (navy w/some orange trim) Okay, the Tigers don’t really need an alternate uniform but if they did, those are options I would I to see. Twins – add navy pinstripes and red numbers w/navy trim on front of the home whites (they had it right with the 2010 rebrand but the current home uniforms are a downgrade); - bring back the 60s throwbacks OR instead bring back the 70s/80s uniforms they wore in 2009, the final year at the Metrodome) - make the alternate logo (that combines the 70s/80s “Win Twins!” state logo and the late 80s/90s/00s primary logo) the primary over the current roundel logo, which would demoted as secondary logo Royals – no changes needed but scrap the powder blue cap if they still wear them. Indians – bring back the Cursive “I” alternate cap form 2002-2010 as the primary cap; alternate is to add a white trim on the block “C” cap - make red the dominate color with midnight navy (which remains unchanged) as secondary color to differ from the Twins, another navy/red team and division foe; - Add red and white stripes on both the home and road jerseys (similar to their late 80s uniforms seen in the 1989 movie “Major League”) and even add numbers in front of the jersey as the current road set is drab and boring (the previous set was much better as was the previous navy jersey); - Put a feather on top of the Block “C” logo as a nod to Chief Wahoo and add a navy outline. - Since the current block “C” logo just doesn’t cut it as a primary logo (it’s fine as a cap logo or secondary logo though), pick one of the logos between 1928 and 1945 (pre-Chief Wahoo) and modernize it to today’s acceptable terms as a new primary logo and put on the sleeves of the uniforms OR bring back Wahoo BUT give him a HUGE facelift. Now I’m rambling to “Overhaul” territory. Yankees – no changes needed Red Sox – no major changes needed. Glad they went back to the 1990-2008 road set look as the previous road set was too navy-heavy. Adding a red trim to the numbers and names would had helped those uniforms. Orioles – no changes needed on regular uniforms - I didn’t mind the realistic bird logo so a throwback option would be their 50s look or the 90s Cal Ricken Jr-era look. - add white trim to the black alternate jersey perhaps? Blue Jays – no major changes need as this was the best sports rebrand of the decade when the Blue Jays came to their senses and scraped the BFBS atrocities of 2004-2011 and modernized their classic 1989-1996 look. - However, I would like to see them add a powder blue alternate. - As for the Canada Day uniforms, I would make the caps red with a white panel, better resembling the Canadian flag. - Always wear the the blue caps w/white panels at home. Only wear the all-blue cap for road games. Rays – make powder blue the dominate color and navy the secondary color. Their uniforms need to brighten up considering they play in a drab and ugly dome; - alternative is keep the current set but change the colors from navy to dark green (a nod to their previously underrated uniform set). Doesn’t help that 3 of their division rivals also have a shade of blue and they barely stand out. - Always wear the striped socks with the regular uniforms - dump the 70s/80s fauxbacks and adopt the 1998 uniforms as a full-time throwbacks Athletics – replace the current shade of green with Kelly green; The current uniforms are great as they are now but would look even better in Kelly green. - Not uniform-related, but hope the team stays in Oakland and get their new stadium there. Mariners – add more emerald green (or teal if you prefer) to their uniforms such as the navy and green swapping places (I will still have them in navy shirts and socks though); - bring back the green cap w/bill cap and wear them with the green jersey; - change the number font on the navy jersey to be more consistent with the other uniforms; - scrap the blue/yellow cream fauxbacks as those colors are more associated with the team having only ONE winning season prior to the 1993 rebrand. Angels – change the halo from silver to gold; - change the red “A” on the red cap and the red “ANGELS” on the red jerseys to white as red on red blends too much. - Add more navy (such as navy crown/red bill cap) or maybe gold on the jerseys to differ from the other red/navy teams - Won't happen but put back “ANAHEIM” on the road set (If the Ducks can embrace their city, so can the Angels). Rangers – They just rebranded but the overall look is a downgrade on what they had before. The home jerseys need a blue cap with red bill, not a red cap with blue bill. - Also add numbers on front of the home jerseys to match closer to the Nolan Ryan-era uniforms. - Don’t like the powder blue set even though the Rangers have worn powder blue in the past (all powder blue doesn’t look right as a home uniform, powder blue jersey with white pants would be ok). Only certain teams like the Royals, Phillies, and Blue Jays can pull off the powder blue. - The inconsistency between drop shadows and double outline are also a thumbs down (I prefer them in double outline). - Why didn’t they change their primary logo (which they’ve had since 2001 and looked like the now-defunct Expos primary logo) with the new rebrand? Astros - Would make the alternate logo (with the orange roundel) the primary logo; - Make the orange cap the home cap and the navy cap w/orange bill the road cap - change the numbers from navy w/orange trim to orange w/navy while keeping the name-scripts as they are (navy w/orange trim). - Orange shirts and socks at home and navy shirts and socks on the road; - add orange stripes on the navy socks as a nod to the rainbow guts/rainbow shoulders look (1975-1993).
  24. Great topic. I agree with about 90% of the suggestions. MLB: - Stirrups/socks must be shown on ALL players and they must match (no players wearing different socks) - No baggy uniforms - No alternate uniforms for the NLCS/ALCS and World Series. (Sad that game 7 between Cubs/Indians in 2016 had both teams in alternate jerseys instead of the standard uniforms) - Scrap the specialty uniforms (players weekend, 4th of July/Memorial Day, mothers/fathers day, etc) Just add a simple patch on the sleeve. NFL: - pants color and sock color must be different (i.e. the Saints look like they are wearing black leotards in their all-black look) - Lift the one-helmet rule ONLY for throwback uniforms (i.e. the Bucs' creamicles, the Pat Patriot uniforms, Broncos orange crush, etc) - Teams has the option to change/tweak their uniforms after three seasons. - No text in front of the jersey - No more color rush uniforms NBA: The whole statement/city/association sets are so confusing! No wonder I no longer follow this league like I did when I was younger. Go back to simple times: - White at home (or light colors such as the Lakers gold), darker colors on the road. - No more specialty jerseys that feature colors the team currently doesn't even wear (throwbacks exempted) - No alternate jerseys worn during the playoffs, especially the NBA Finals! (those BFBS Cavs uniforms are an embarrassment!) An alternate would be is to do what the NHL did and have the times wear their colors/alternates at home and white (or light colors) on the road. Speaking of which... NHL: Not sure what I would change, though i was more used to seeing teams wear white at home and their colors on the road when I was younger. For all North American sports leagues: - NO ADS on Jerseys!
  25. And I thought the 1999 "Turn Ahead the Clock" uniforms were bad. At least there was some creativity involved like with the Mercury Mets uniforms. These monochrome black/white uniforms are TERRIBLE! The white jerseys are worse because I can barely see the numbers! The black ones are marginally better (but not by much), but I can't see the logos on the cap! These uniforms better not see the light again! Watching the Cubs/Nationals game and notices that the Cubs pitcher is wearing a black cap but the other Cubs players are wearing white caps. But the Nationals pitcher is also wearing a black cap alongside his teammates. What??? I also watched some highlights of the Dodgers/Yankees game yesterday. Part of me actually hopes that this will be this year's World Series match-up (if the Cubs don't make it), so that we can actually see them battle in their actual timeless uniforms. It's also weird seeing the Yankees wear a NOB (Name-on-Back) jersey on the field. George Steinbrenner must be spinning in his grave.