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  1. 32 minutes ago, Thaumatrope said:

     

    Agreed. Not only that, but massive wildfires are projected to increase in frequency and severity going forward. While California gets a lot of attention due to the number of people effected by fires, the entire west experiences frequent (and devastating) wildfires. It's worth noting that we've already seen one sports brand emerge from this new wildfire reality: the Arizona Hot Shots of the AAF, and it would not surprise me to see more going forward (Smokejumpers anyone?). 

     

    However, I would argue that the days of fire-related brands (especially relating to wild fires), being "safe" is probably coming to an end. Then again, we've managed to have Hurricanes and Quakes at various levels of sports without incident, so it's possible this will blow over as well. 

     

     

     

    Not to mention Fire (Chicago, MSL), Avalanche (Colorado, NHL), Tornadoes (Worcester, former independent minor league baseball Can-Am League), Volcanoes (Salem-Keizer, Minor League Baseball), Blizzard (Green Bay, Indoor Football League), Cyclones (Iowa State, NCAA), etc.

     

    (I'm not counting names like Storm, Thunder and Lightning, as they don't necessarily attain the same threat level as the aforementioned forces of nature and other disasters.)

     

    This might make a good thread of its own. Anybody have others to add?

  2. 27 minutes ago, mpcincal said:

    Actually, the Mudville Nine was the team in Stockton. The Rawhide were previously the Visalia Oaks and, more briefly, the Central Valley Rockies.

    Yes, but...

    The owners of Stockton at the time they switched to the Mudville Nine identity later sold that Stockton team but retained ownership of the Mudville Nine identity. They then bought the Visalia Oaks and shortly thereafter changed the team name from Oaks to Rawhide. In short, the same owners are responsible for both the Mudville Nine and the Visalia Rawhide identities. Which is why one can buy Mudville Nine merchandise in the Visalia Rawhide web site store.

  3. 18 hours ago, jamesd04 said:

    How about Fond du Lac Flying Squirrels? 

    Is this a serious suggestion? There is already Minor League Baseball's Richmond Flying Squirrels. And speaking of existing names, although Walleye makes all the sense in the world for Fond du Lac, there is already a minor league hockey team in Toledo with that name. If you have a new sports team nowadays, it is beneficial to have your own, unique, own-able name.

  4. 21 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

     

    My high school mascot was the Gobblers, which I always felt was unique, so I'm not inclined to be excited by another organization adopting it. That said, I'd go with Stud Muffins, because why not. 

     

    Why not? Because professional athletes have to wear uniforms bearing that name. In minor league baseball, there are names that are fun, clever and different, like Mud Hens, Kernels, and even Blue Wahoos; then there are names that are ridiculous, over-the-top and embarrassing for the players, like Biscuits, Rubber Ducks and yes, Stud Muffins.

  5. 8 hours ago, cappital92 said:

    I imagine they'll have your standard white and grey jerseys, than an alt that's green for four months out of the season, changes to a nice perfect yellow for like two days, than bam, brown for the rest of the year. 

     

    Not only is this very funny, but it's actually a great idea that is doable (not a jersey that actually changes colors, but having a series of three alt jerseys, starting with a green one, then a yellow one, and lastly a brown one) and would get the team some additional press.

  6. Logos and uniforms for the Pulaski Yankees (Appalachian League), formerly the Pulaski Mariners, via Facebook:

    10470845_1559769597625485_3106958589515910348376_1559769600958818_2473409137597510325154_1559769607625484_650146651109351782182_1559769610958817_577909673165720
    That PY logo is pretty awkward. I'd love to see an overhaul of the Yankees' lower minor league identities - there's a lot of really clumsy derivations of the parent club's identity.

    Seeing this new identity for the Yankees Pulaski has me itching for Day Opening -- it seems like forever since the Series World ended!

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  7. Still not sure what's with the attachment to colors they've only used since 1998 when they spent 20 years prior to that as a blue & red team, and had been reincorporating their "classic" identity in recent years. Are the Sounds really that well-known as a red and black team?

    Great point, illwauk. The owner's quote referred to the team's "decision to return to our traditional red-and-black color scheme." I'm not quite sure that the 17 most recent years in a team's history constitute "tradition," especially when two decades of Nashville Sounds baseball, a period during which they wore different colors, preceded that (not to mention other professional baseball teams in Nashville going back to the late 1800s).

  8. the vocal minority

    We don't know that.

    No, we don't know that as fact. But...

    I was basing my post on this quote, from the Sounds owner himself, Frank Ward, in the story that ran on MiLB.com when the balance of the brand identity system was unveiled earlier this week:

    "We heard loud and clear the strong feedback of our fans after our new logo was unveiled last fall. We have made the decision to return to our traditional red-and-black color scheme to accompany the new Nashville-styled logos."

    True, that statement does not quantify how many fans weighed in. But human nature is such that naysayers are more prone to speak out negatively than supporters are to sing praises. So I'm going to stand by my assertion.

  9. Are you srsly dropping the royal we on me? condescending quotation marks? "hypothetical certificate of sorts"? Who the hell are you, Brian In Boston's little brother?

    Yeah, I'm not a :censored:ing idiot, I know what artistic license is, but what it isn't is carte blanche to do crap that doesn't make any sense. You can connote action and excitement without italicizing a building, which is plainly dumb.

    In reading back over my post, I can see how the use of quotation marks may have come across as condescending, and for that I apologize, as it was not my intention to offend. I don't post very often, which explains why I don't quite have the posting protocol down pat.

  10. Since the Alamo isn't a tall building, the slant doesn't really bother me as much as it would if it were a skyscraper.

    So buildings can be skewed at 15-degree angles that they're not actually at as long as they aren't tall? MOD EDIT It makes no sense whatsoever. What are they doing, trying to show that there's something progressive and "forward-facing" about a historic building? There's one historic building I can think of that should be drawn so that it's leaning, and it's not because it's progressive.

    Hey, my running shoes look like the ones the guy in the home uniform is wearing.

    It's an identity for a baseball team. Baseball is a sport. Sports like baseball are about action. Italicizing things connotes action. Of course, the Alamo itself, unlike the historic building you referenced (we assume you are talking about a certain structure in Pisa), does not lean, but sometimes creative individuals use this thing called "artistic license," a hypothetical certificate of sorts that entitles the holder to not necessarily have to be literal in their depictions. I cannot argue with most of the flaws that the Creamer community has already pointed out about this particular identity, but I do not agree that the building being rendered in an italicized fashion is worthy of scorn.
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  11. Yankees Staten Island and Blasters Joplin? Those are strange names for sports teams!

    Although there is this thing called Artistic License, which allows us to sometimes bend certain rules in the name of design, this license does not grant us permission to completely ignore syntax (in short, the rules of proper grammar). Putting the geographical designation of a sports team below the nickname, as was done in these two cases, is simply poor planning, and laziness, on the part of the designers. If you are creating an identity for a team named the Staten Island Yankees or the Joplin Blasters, you know the hierarchy of the verbiage before ever putting pencil to paper, and it is your job to design accordingly.

    That got?

  12. Native & current El Pasoan here.

    On one hand, I totally understand the naming conventions of minor league baseball. Theyre supposed to be fun, tongue-in-cheek names. EP Chihuahuas fits.

    I hate to be THAT guy....but on the other hand I find myself being puzzled by this name. Currently, there is an active push to change the perception of El Paso. One of the most commonly negative perceptions of EP is that it is too "mexican", not "american" enough. The owners of the team, while non-hispanic, have been leading the charge for change. They have donated a tremendous amount of time and money to improving the city (donating $$$ to medical school, UTEP, charities, etc.)

    So with that in mind, I am confused as to why they would go with this particular name. If they're actively trying to change the negative perceptions of the city, did they not stop to think that their choice reinforces one of the key ones? I'm all for paying tribute to our roots and heritage, but I strongly feel there are better ways to do this.

    Am I looking at this the wrong way? Am I taking it too serious? Are they trying to encourage people to "own" one of the most negative perceptions of the city? Thought?

    The owners of the team are not all non-Hispanic. Alejandra De La Vega Foster is one of the team owners and is integrally involved in MountainStar Sports, the club's ownership group. She was born in El Paso, lived most of her childhood in Juarez, was the former owner and manager of the Cobras de Ciudad Juarez professional soccer team and is president of the company that operates close to 200 Del Rio convenience stores in Juarez and northern Chihuahua. Sure, she is married to billionaire Paul Foster, also one of the team's owners, but if you do an Internet search on her you will see that she is far from being "just" the wife of a billionaire. She is a highly-regarded, successful, intelligent Hispanic woman who understands the unique dynamic of El Paso and the surrounding region.

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